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"Uroda" is the word that came from "urodzić"/"rodzić" which means "to born"/"giving birth" ("rodzic" means "parent") and "urodzony" which means "is/was born". "Uroda" can be applied in both good way and a bad way - for example "urodziwy" means "good looking" but someone "o urodzie pokemona" means someone rather ugly/looking like a pokemon :D "o urodzie" means "looks like" in this sense. "Urodzony" which means "born" can also describe someone's upbringing as in a social standing for example "wysoko urodzony" means "high born" like aristocracy for example and "nisko urodzony" means "low upbringing" as a commoner or peasant for example ;) I don't know about the Russian version much because I don't know Russian language.

edit : and of course "uroda" by itself means they way someone looks rather than someone is beautiful. Direct translation can mean "beautiful" but the sense of the word "uroda" is not always that. Like I've said before it can be good or bad.
 
Thread needs moar Kyriakos posting horror art.

Here is another Beksinski painting:

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yeaah that's my ish right there

I like how some of them are completely burned out.
 
I didn't recognize any of the Polish companies in the first post, because none of those are on Poland's list of technology teams in HoI2. That list had Stocznia Gdynia, PZL, and PZInz, among others.

That was the game where, as Poland, I annexed Germany when they attacked me. Then I annexed Japan. Then I annexed the USSR. Good times.
 
That's Edward Rydz-Smigly, right? What's the context behind that painting?

May not have happened in real life, but it certainly happened in my game. ;)
 
I might consider applying for an IT job in Poland. Are salaries in this industry generally good?
 
How's Cracow in that regard?
 
Quick googling tells me that Cracow is a city with relatively low costs of living, compared for example to Warsaw or Wrocław.

And salaries in IT in Kraków are even a bit higher than in Wrocław, where costs of living are higher (see Tabela 3 in that first link I posted).

In Tabela 3 you have:

polski = salaries for employees who work for enterprises based on domestic capital
zagraniczny = salaries for employees who work for enterprises based on foreign capital

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Over 7,000 PLN is what 25% of employees in Cracow get (75% get less) - this is for all jobs:

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And here monthly cost of living (żywność, chemia = food, chemicals):

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Here another variant (żywność, chemia) - this is for students but a stomach is a stomach:

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Average monthly flat rent according to number of rooms (not including kitchen, bathroom, hall of course) by city:

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Monthly cost of rent per each m2 of a flat (but older data, from 2009), in PLN:

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Hope this helps.
 
Monthly cost of rent per each m2 of a flat (but older data, from 2009), in PLN:

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Hope this helps.

That's quite cheap compared to the Netherlands. 700 Zloty a month apparantly gets you a 20m² apartment, which is like €150. I currently pay €325 a month for a apartment half this size.

What is a good site for non-Polish speakers to acquire apartments? You've already helped a lot though.
 
^You live in a 10 square meters 'apartment'?
I suppose there was a typo there :)

Well, maybe 12? It is perhaps more of a room, though Dutch housing is extremely expensive and you get relatively few for space for it as well. A true apartment would start at €750.
 
What is a good site for non-Polish speakers to acquire apartments?

There is a good site called OLX / tablica.pl, but it's for Polish-speakers mostly (mieszkania = flats/apartments; pokoje/stancje = rooms/lodgings):

http://olx.pl/nieruchomosci/mieszkania/wynajem/krakow/?search

http://olx.pl/nieruchomosci/stancje-pokoje/krakow/?search

When in field "Szukaj" you type "English" it finds announcements in English but they are very few:

http://olx.pl/nieruchomosci/mieszkania/wynajem/krakow/q-English/?search

http://olx.pl/nieruchomosci/stancje-pokoje/krakow/q-English/?search

There is also for example www.gumtree.pl for local adverts, it is as well in Polish.

You might try to use some text translator or website translator.

But first check this English language forum - they give links to some other sites, both for Polish-speakers and for non-Polish speakers:

http://www.polishforums.com/real-estate-20/look-internet-18451/

On page 3 of that thread in one of recent posts (from 2014) they give link to this one: http://www.propertyadvisor.pl/home

And two more sites:

Spoiler :
The good news is that only limited vocabulary is required to interpret most adverts.

A useful source of information when looking for a flat on your own is classified ads in local newspapers. The real estate section (nieruchomości) offering apartments for rent (wynajem mieszkań) is included in the newspaper usually once a week. Most common flat categories are jednopokojowe or kawalerka, for studio apartments, and dwa pokoje or dwupokojowe, for two-room apartments.

In general it is worth finding short-term accommodation while you are looking for a permanent place to live rather than finding a place to rent before your arrival. If you sign a rental agreement beforehand you may encounter unpleasant surprises when you actually get to see your apartment.

Searching on- and off-line

There are many websites with classified advertisements for rental apartments. One of the biggest is www.gratka.pl . Just click on Dom i Nieruchomości for the housing and real estate section.

Poland’s most popular newspaper, Gazeta Wyborcza, has a housing supplement called Gazeta Dom. This is also available online at http://dom.gazeta.pl .

Consider asking your future employer, colleagues, friends and anyone else you meet if they know anyone who has a flat.

Making contact

Don’t take for granted that the flat owner will be able to speak English. Many younger people do and there are also quite a few people who speak German. However older people with a second language will most likely only speak Russian.

Before getting your landlord on the phone or before meeting personally, it is a good idea to make sure you are able to communicate well. Unless you are confident in Polish, it is recommended to find a native speaker to go with you, if possible.

When considering an apartment it is important to find out, whether the flat is supplied furnished or not, as well as what is included in the rent, as many ads do not go into details.

DIY vs. Agencies [Agencje in Polish]

Finding a home without the help of a real estate agency has lots of positive aspects, including not having to pay commission, no risk of being cheated by a dishonest agency and potentially a wider choice of offers.

However, there are also some disadvantages in looking for an apartment on your own. It can be very time-consuming and the language barrier can make the process difficult. In addition to having to make a lot of phone calls and visits, you will also have to get a contract signed on your own.

Agents can be useful when it comes to making sure you are paying the right price. They also know what is going to be included in the rent and what might be extra. Most importantly they make sure that the contractual part of the agreement is done properly and according to the law.

The commission agents charge vary greatly, but usually start at half a month’s rent. Definitely negotiate the charges with your agent before making use of any service. You will further need to specify which services you want. Otherwise it is likely that agents will charge you for services you expected to be included.

Be careful when choosing an agency. There are many cases of high fees being charged to people in return for only a few addresses of available accommodation. Don’t be misled since this type of arrangement means you will not get money returned if you don’t like what is on offer or don’t end up renting a property proposed by the agency.

Many agents are professional and provide a valuable service to their clients. See if you can get recommendations from other people and make sure you feel comfortable, ask the right questions and try not to pay money up-front.
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Edit:

Maybe I'm doing something wrong but it seems that there are no adverts from Cracow on that propertyadvisor.pl website?

There is no option to choose małopolskie province (that's where Cracow is) from the list, unless I did something wrong.
 
You can't find a Polish plumber there, though. They're all in the UK.

I wonder how Poland is managing without them.
 
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