INES II: Gone is the Old Guard

[Agent 89]

Considering next to no people live in Siberia or Northern China, and those areas make up most of FEAR's country, its actually not that ridiculous. Most of their population is centered around one area of the country.

 

[Kozmos]

A nuclear detonation would kill millions in a capitol city and since not many of its people live in Siberia, a series of detonations along the southern corridor would get the job done.

Take any moderately sized city and run some calculations regarding a nuclear detonation of about 200 kts in the center of it.

 

[Anonymoose]

This banter is clogging the thread and is more boring than anything ever.

 

[germanicus12]

This banter is clogging the thread and is more boring than anything ever.

I agree.

We are still willing to discuss peace terms to individual nations if they are looking to leave the war and the EC. Stop listening to the Madman in FEAR, he is trying to destroy us all, even you, his allies.

 

[Karalysia]

I own not only Valdivostock you know, but also Mancuria, Korea, Japan, Northern China, Mongolia, East Turkestan, and so forth. The prospect of you destroying 75% of my people with 5 nukes is laughable. And it would still be accetpable (I'm evil remember) because I would retaliate from my silo's and take down a dozen of your assorted cities.

Now as I said, all that unpleasantness can be avoided if you withdraw from my land.

 

[Kozmos]

You call it banter because we are right. Our forces suffered a sudden mass of brain tumors so yours could have a fighting chance. I cannot accept that lightly and if need be I will join him in destroying the world.

 

[Karalysia]

You call it banter because we are right. Our forces suffered a sudden mass of brain tumors so yours could have a fighting chance. I cannot accept that lightly and if need be I will join him in destroying the world.

Welcome to the true dark side comrade. *Putin embraces SRF leader.*

 

[germanicus12]

I own not only Valdivostock you know, but also Mancuria, Korea, Japan, Northern China, Mongolia, East Turkestan, and so forth. The prospect of you destroying 75% of my people with 5 nukes is laughable. And it would still be accetpable (I'm evil remember) because I would retaliate from my silo's and take down a dozen of your assorted cities.

Now as I said, all that unpleasantness can be avoided if you withdraw from my land.

Do you really control them? Or are they yearning for free democracy? Your polls do show that you have the support, but are they only because they fear you? What's to say that they won't welcome us with open arms if we invade and liberate Japan? Korea? or even Northern China?

 

[germanicus12]

You call it banter because we are right. Our forces suffered a sudden mass of brain tumors so yours could have a fighting chance. I cannot accept that lightly and if need be I will join him in destroying the world.

You are not right, our technology is vastly different from OTL technology. This is banter because there is nothing we (meaning you) can do to change what has happened.

 

[Karalysia]

Do you really control them? Or are they yearning for free democracy? Your polls do show that you have the support, but are they only because they fear you? What's to say that they won't welcome us with open arms if we invade and liberate Japan? Korea? or even Northern China?

*Shrugs* It makes no difference to me what they want. It's not important. If you don't withdraw me and France will annihilate the world. And no doubt Morocco is willing to do the same. (Also Northern China is free of Chinese, it has been depopulated and re-colonized)

 

[bestrfcplayer]

Imigo, when will the awards be held?

To All Allied Nations(DFI/NADTA alliance)
From Poland

We will help you in any way possible.

 

[Kozmos]

You are not right, our technology is vastly different from OTL technology. This is banter because there is nothing we (meaning you) can do to change what has happened.

Xaxaxaxaxa. It is not except in regards to current near future themes everyone is running. Your assertion is laughable.

 

[Anonymoose]

They had a sudden mass of brain tumors because I willed it to be so. This conversation is absolutely pointless, that's why it's banter.

 

[Kozmos]

1. (intransitive) To engage in banter or playful conversation.
2. (intransitive) To play or do something amusing.
3. (transitive) To tease mildly.

Do I seem amused by this? I swear to God I'm beginning to understand how Symphony D. felt.

 

[Anonymoose]

If you're not entertained, then why are you here? I'm not saying I want you gone, but you have to admit that this entire discourse has been pretty OOC and has been clogging up the thread. Most of it looks like playing and doing something amusing to me.

 

[Crezth]

Do I seem amused by this? I swear to God I'm beginning to understand how Symphony D. felt.

That's a powerful statement my friend. I must say the longer this conversation goes on, the more absurd the entire situation seems. Stealing nukes is a complex affair, and by no means assured of success, and it seems to me the most that would have happened is the destruction of the nukes, and perhaps the seizure of what remained by Deseret. I definitely don't believe they're ready to launch.

 

[Imago]

Although are your seriously saying that 1ASP can buy 10 modern ICBM's, while it takes 1ASP to outfit a 5 divisions.

They created them to be cheap. They apparently also created them to have very little security. See more at the end of this post.

To: Pakistani Commanders on Sumatra
From: ASEAN

I'm sure we can work out a resonable solution to our problem. All we want is to regain control over Sumatra, which is rightfully ours. And I'm sure you just want to get food for you and your men. Seeing how your government has basically abandoned you, making no attempt to break through to you and deliver supplies beside an occasional transport. Your country is dissinagrating into choas, and I'm sure you'd rather not be trapped on a valueless island while your homeland falls. Thus, we ask you to work out a surrender of our forces. This will solve both of our problems, as we will regain Sumatra and you and your men will be able to eat.

To: ASEAN
From: Pakistani Commanders on Sumatra

We will surrender unless our government contacts us. If they give us a shred of hope, we will fight to the last.

To: Indonesia
From: ASEAN

We demand your immediate surrender.

To: ASEAN
From: Empire of Indonesia

Never!

To: The Indonesian People
From: ASEAN

Look how your government acts, how they have become nothing more that a puppet for Vladimir Putin.

*Unrest is certainly building, but there's no one who can speak for the group*

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Far Eastern Republic/Karalysia
Approval Polling: 113%

What?

I did say poll data in authoritarian regimes was prone to being wrong, didn't I?

Actually they cant. I contest that part of the update. To believe any modern day nuclear weapon would be without a Permissive Action Link is ridiculous. Such mechanisms are tamper-proof. You can launch the missile but it will not give rise to a nuclear explosion only a conventional one.

You can try to reverse engineer it, but it will take far more time then it will for us to build additional weapons.

That's a thought that's grounded in a real-world thinking about nuclear weapons. What we have at hand is prototype nuclear weapons in a world that isn't really aware of the horrors of nuclear war. That came from a site with abysmal security.

considering your invasion wasnt exactly quiet

It actually started quiet. The people who took the site were members of a small group of elite Deseret special forces. Only after the base was secured did the legions of troops arrive.

Imago, why did the cost of my project incresse? It was at 6. now it is at 10. nothing has changed.

I realized it was better than I thought it was.

Considering next to no people live in Siberia or Northern China, and those areas make up most of FEAR's country, its actually not that ridiculous. Most of their population is centered around one area of the country.

Korea is FEAR, too.

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Also, I will say this. Not one word was mentioned in anyone's orders about nuclear security. Plenty of words about creating nukes, but nuclear security was not mentioned even once.

 

[TerrisH]

Because It was Obvious common sense?

you don't create Giant secret projects and spend a substantial chunk of your budget on something without putting some defenses around it.

 

[Kozmos]

If you're not entertained, then why are you here? I'm not saying I want you gone, but you have to admit that this entire discourse has been pretty OOC and has been clogging up the thread. Most of it looks like playing and doing something amusing to me.

So what if it's OOC? What exactly is being clogged up? Is an internet thread like a series of tube so it can get clogged? Where I am to display my outrage at such a preposterous happening? I cannot be amused when my orders are not followed through or when common sense is bypassed so everyone can keep being amused.

You too would complain if you felt wronged and if not then you are a spineless peasant who deserves to be crushed in a meat grinder.

Yes, I am raging. I'm off to BF2 to bomb some brown people.

It actually started quiet. The people who took the site were members of a small group of elite Deseret special forces. Only after the base was secured did the legions of troops arrive.

Ah and the helicopter they arrived on just strolled by radar installations and interceptors because? They cut through fences, killed all the guards, faked video feed, impersonated regular radio communication by guards, took the slow cargo lift and proceeded to secure the whole facility without a raising any kind of alarm. Do tell me what kind of CYBORG NINJAS DESSERT HAS!

 

[Imago]

Because It was Obvious common sense?

you don't create Giant secret projects and spend a substantial chunk of your budget on something without putting some defenses around it.

And you don't start crash course nuclear programs involving massive amounts of funding when you only have a fuzzy idea that the tech will work. That was the big crazy that made all the little crazies. The way you people spoke of or didn't speak of the nuclear program in your orders invited it to be a disaster.

And the truth of the matter is that IMHO, the Eastern Coalition is in a far better strategic situation than DFI-NADTA.