INES II: Gone is the Old Guard

[Anonymoose]

I'm not gonna lie. I was just being a troll. I'm going to go eat a sandwich now and I don't really care how upset everyone is that blah blah nukes happened. There's a goddam clone army in FEAR and I have a team of psychics. Giant lawnmowers of people and cyborg regiments. I think that questioning it at this point is laughable.

 

[Omega124]

OOC: Interesting update. Now that we have nukes, a whole new level if awesome has come. Too bad we have a hiatus.

 

[germanicus12]

Ah and the helicopter they arrived on just strolled by radar installations and interceptors because? They cut through fences, killed all the guards, faked video feed, impersonated regular radio communication by guards, took the slow cargo lift and proceeded to secure the whole facility without a raising any kind of alarm. Do tell me what kind of CYBORG NINJAS DESSERT HAS!

I will answer this, the helicopters flew low and were equipped with radar jamming frequencies, this explains how they got so close.

There were no fences reported by our source, nor were they spotted by our agents, so we didn't take that into account.

Your patrols were taken care of by snipers. The group then attacked using silenced weapons, each group moving and taking care of their own section, so each guard was taken down almost simultaneously. (We will not disclose our numbers, but be sure that the number we had was almost equal if not more than the number of guards.)

Due to the simultaneous attack on the guards, no warning was given, no alarm was sounded, therefore on the slow lift down the teams were allowed to breath and reload. Once in the facility, I am sure the real firefight started, but by now the numbers were in favor of Deseret and we were able to squash the resistance within minutes and capture the facility.

OOC: This is how I detailed my orders. For the most part. It was far more detailed, but this is what I think would be enough to answer your current questions.

 

[TheLizardKing]

There were no fences reported by our source, nor were they spotted by our agents, so we didn't take that into account.

NOT EVEN A GODDAMN FENCE?

And no doubt Morocco is willing to do the same.

Hit the nail on the head.

And, I'm sure at least 1 scientist.. I don't know, poored his coffee into the mainframe? Maybe burned out a few wires? Regardless of how we were treated in the update, I do have to agree that, defenses are common sense, so I assumed. being rushed doesn't nescessarily not make sense (The Manhattan Project.. was sorta rushed, wasn't it? I just assumed since we had particle beams, or what have you.. it was all good.)

Anyway. We are in a better position.

You have 20 nukes in my territory. Carpet bomb? Yes.

I could even destroy the generators.

And besides, a vast amount of the population is under our control. (Africa, parts of China, most of South America) you can hit us with.. 20 nukes is it? But, of course, trading city for city is indeed fun! How about New Rabat for.. Quebec.. nah. New York. Fun.

Also, don't forget about your bleeding ulcer.. the Yellowstone super volcano? The cap on that is very small. If just one missile hits it, out of the hundreds we can/are building, North America will experience a pain that even she won't be able to handle.

Also, you have several hundred thousand troops in the middle of Africa. Good idea. Even if you outnumber us (which, I doubt you do) we can either
-nuke the concentration of troops you have
-starve you guys
-attack you on all sides.

Your randomized.. airdrops, or helocopters flying thousands of miles in an enemy country won't help you. Why? We do have an airforce.. it just disappeared for a few days.

Your friends in South America are about to be destroyed. The war in the Pacific doesn't look like it's boding well for you either.

South Africa looks pretty lonely down there.

Your forces in Iberia are without naval and air support.

You surrended, give us some land, and I think we may not destroy the planet. It's up to you.

We aren't afraid to nuke our own capital, and the fact that we have a few of those Quebecois gay-boys in there, makes it all the better.

Also. I shut down all non-military radio stations, t.v., etc. my people grew weary of hearing ASEAN's boring propaganda. It's indeed funny that they claim this to be our war of agression.. when I recall.. they attacked first. However prepared our troops were, doesn't matter. It's actually a good thing.

Leave it to the French Canadian cowards to attack a fleet, heading home, instead of facing it head on.

Leave it to Deseret cowards, using another nations flag, to hide their true weakness.

Leave it to Alaska to stay safe, up in the North, while their friends nations feel the brunt of these wars.


Pitiful, truly pitiful.

So, if any nation who currently has my nukes, if you wish to turn them over to me, your country will be spared. Miami, New Orleans, Charleston, Atlanta, Savannah.. perhaps if we hit California on the right fault lines, it will forever be swallowed up by the Oceans!! But of course, Yellowstone is a large priority. You could always save the world? Just.. turn against your allies.

(OOC: Imago, I do not understand, out of the dozens of things previously posted, how TAJ did not know about my nukes? He donated three ASP towards them, and I recall it being agreed they'd be in the Sahara, and/or in Siberia...)

 

[Kozmos]

I will answer this, the helicopters flew low and were equipped with radar jamming frequencies, this explains how they got so close.

There were no fences reported by our source, nor were they spotted by our agents, so we didn't take that into account.

Your patrols were taken care of by snipers. The group then attacked using silenced weapons, each group moving and taking care of their own section, so each guard was taken down almost simultaneously. (We will not disclose our numbers, but be sure that the number we had was almost equal if not more than the number of guards.)

Due to the simultaneous attack on the guards, no warning was given, no alarm was sounded, therefore on the slow lift down the teams were allowed to breath and reload. Once in the facility, I am sure the real firefight started, but by now the numbers were in favor of Deseret and we were able to squash the resistance within minutes and capture the facility.

OOC: This is how I detailed my orders. For the most part. It was far more detailed, but this is what I think would be enough to answer your current questions.

Fortunately, that is not how such facilities are built. Plus you left out radio check-ins and video camera feed. If Solid Snake cant pwn the entire island of Shadow Moses without being discovered at least three times neither can your special forces.

And you don't start crash course nuclear programs involving massive amounts of funding when you only have a fuzzy idea that the tech will work. That was the big crazy that made all the little crazies. The way you people spoke of or didn't speak of the nuclear program in your orders invited it to be a disaster.

And the truth of the matter is that IMHO, the Eastern Coalition is in a far better strategic situation than DFI-NADTA

It's not a crazy. We played right along the rules, investing the money required for such a weapon. Ballistic missiles were already there, just needed to be built. Difference between OTL development and ours was that US had 60 years less of technology and invested only 2 billion dollars in it which was perhaps 7% of their entire WW2 budget. We spent considerably more and with computer modeling we could have run plenty of tests.

 

[TheLizardKing]

And. We put up a fence. 7 of the 20 some ASP actually went towards the fence..

And, at the point in which, a major firefight began in the silo.. wouldn't my guys of said.. hey. We're f***ed. Lets.. destroy the equiptment?

 

[germanicus12]

NOT EVEN A GODDAMN FENCE?




Hit the nail on the head.

And, I'm sure at least 1 scientist.. I don't know, poored his coffee into the mainframe? Maybe burned out a few wires? Regardless of how we were treated in the update, I do have to agree that, defenses are common sense, so I assumed. being rushed doesn't nescessarily not make sense (The Manhattan Project.. was sorta rushed, wasn't it? I just assumed since we had particle beams, or what have you.. it was all good.)

Anyway. We are in a better position.

You have 20 nukes in my territory. Carpet bomb? Yes.

I could even destroy the generators.

And besides, a vast amount of the population is under our control. (Africa, parts of China, most of South America) you can hit us with.. 20 nukes is it? But, of course, trading city for city is indeed fun! How about New Rabat for.. Quebec.. nah. New York. Fun.

Also, don't forget about your bleeding ulcer.. the Yellowstone super volcano? The cap on that is very small. If just one missile hits it, out of the hundreds we can/are building, North America will experience a pain that even she won't be able to handle.

Also, you have several hundred thousand troops in the middle of Africa. Good idea. Even if you outnumber us (which, I doubt you do) we can either
-nuke the concentration of troops you have
-starve you guys
-attack you on all sides.

Your randomized.. airdrops, or helocopters flying thousands of miles in an enemy country won't help you. Why? We do have an airforce.. it just disappeared for a few days.

Your friends in South America are about to be destroyed. The war in the Pacific doesn't look like it's boding well for you either.

South Africa looks pretty lonely down there.

Your forces in Iberia are without naval and air support.

You surrended, give us some land, and I think we may not destroy the planet. It's up to you.

We aren't afraid to nuke our own capital, and the fact that we have a few of those Quebecois gay-boys in there, makes it all the better.

Also. I shut down all non-military radio stations, t.v., etc. my people grew weary of hearing ASEAN's boring propaganda. It's indeed funny that they claim this to be our war of agression.. when I recall.. they attacked first. However prepared our troops were, doesn't matter. It's actually a good thing.

Leave it to the French Canadian cowards to attack a fleet, heading home, instead of facing it head on.

Leave it to Deseret cowards, using another nations flag, to hide their true weakness.

Leave it to Alaska to stay safe, up in the North, while their friends nations feel the brunt of these wars.


Pitiful, truly pitiful.

So, if any nation who currently has my nukes, if you wish to turn them over to me, your country will be spared. Miami, New Orleans, Charleston, Atlanta, Savannah.. perhaps if we hit California on the right fault lines, it will forever be swallowed up by the Oceans!! But of course, Yellowstone is a large priority. You could always save the world? Just.. turn against your allies.

(OOC: Imago, I do not understand, out of the dozens of things previously posted, how TAJ did not know about my nukes? He donated three ASP towards them, and I recall it being agreed they'd be in the Sahara, and/or in Siberia...)

Alaska is in the fight, they are currently deployed to ASEAN and FEAR, the Deseret navy has proven its worth in the Pacific and along with ASEAN naval fleets and Alaska, we have the advantage in the Pacific. Morocco obviously does not understand world events, thus proving why they are inferior to the rest of the world.

If anyone are cowards, it is Morocco, they bombed a small village in Quebec rather than sent a small force. They were overrun by Quebecois troops in Africa, their so called fortified facility in the Sahara was overrun by Special Forces. If anything, the EC's position is worst than NADTA's and the DFI's. We could lose in South America, but if we win the war, it means little as we can bring them back at the negotiating table. And if our cities are struck, and you still lose, you will be forced to pay more in reparations than you will now.

In fact we are not even asking that you pay reparations, (minus ASEAN's demands to Indonesia) we are just offering you White Peace.


Also, to your last post, the firefight, if one was even there, lasted just minutes, the scientists were obviously shocked that we infiltrated the facility so quickly and did not react in time. There are many reasons that could be used to explain why the equipment or computers were not destroyed.

 

[TheLizardKing]

Your posts keep getting more laughable.

Alaska is in the fight, they are currently deployed to ASEAN and FEAR, the Deseret navy has proven its worth in the Pacific and along with ASEAN naval fleets and Alaska, we have the advantage in the Pacific. Morocco obviously does not understand world events

Of course Alaska is deployed in the Pacific. That is obvious, yet, has Alaska really felt the brunt of the war? Is it their people being killed in the streets? And its good to know your navy can tag its name onto ASEAN's naval victories. And you did it, flying your own flag this time!

thus proving why they are inferior to the rest of the world.

How very Mormon of you. You are a Theocratic state, are you not? Perhaps you should watch your tongue, lest your lesser god smite you, and your polygamist pigs of people.

If anyone are cowards, it is Morocco, they bombed a small village in Quebec rather than sent a small force.

Actually, that was in Iberia. And, of course, we are the only nation to ever bomb a village in war, rather than wasting our resources. This doesn't show we're cowards, more over, it shows we don't waste our mens lives, like you do so freely.

They were overrun by Quebecois troops in Africa,

They captured a small undefended position. Islamic forces landed, and took over most of New England. Which is the harder to pull off?

their so called fortified facility in the Sahara was overrun by Special Forces.

Aside from the fact that no one ever called it a fortified facility, yes, your special forces really dealt us a blow. It truly was a perfect storm. If only any single one of the many things that could of gone wrong, did. But, again, Mormons, out of anything, are known for their stealth.

If anything, the EC's position is worst than NADTA's and the DFI's. We could lose in South America,

Of all the things you've said, this is by far the funniest. Please, explain how.

but if we win the war, it means little as we can bring them back at the negotiating table.

And if we win the war, then we can burn your country sides? I don't see what this has to do with your previous point.

And if our cities are struck, and you still lose, you will be forced to pay more in reparations than you will now.

When we nuke Yellowstone, and all of North America will be destroyed, along with most of the world. So, you screw with us, you kill yourselves. We aren't afraid to die, as long as it takes all of you with us.

In fact we are not even asking that you pay reparations, (minus ASEAN's demands to Indonesia) we are just offering you White Peace.

Eh, no. You attacked us. Deal with the consequences.

Also, to your last post, the firefight, if one was even there, lasted just minutes, the scientists were obviously shocked that we infiltrated the facility so quickly and did not react in time. There are many reasons that could be used to explain why the equipment or computers were not destroyed.

Because, even assuming the fight only lasted 1 minute, not a single person in the silo would of thought to destroy the computers.

 

[germanicus12]

We attacked you? You attacked us... you invaded New England, Venezuela invaded Deseret (though they were not a part of the EC at the time, they were supported by the EC and they allowed Venezuela to join, so that in our minds counts.)

Our allies did what was considered honorable, rather than follow what the EC did for Venezuela, our allies helped by invading our enemies, in a war that was already well underway and started by the EC.

 

[TheLizardKing]

Actually, Venezuela has always been in the EC? I think you are talking about Argentina. And, we have yet to send Argentina support.

Us attacking the trash heap that is New England (makes me wonder how bad old England is..) was in the North American war. I assumed by me leaving, rather than asking for reperations, or for the Quebecois women to keep their legs open, that you would leave us alone, we would leave you alone.

Instead, knowing you couldn't face our true power, you relied on more or less sneak attacking us, on our way home, after a long sex romp in New England. Then, after, even after failure was more or less proclaimed in the update, you still call it a victory. If thats a victory, I can only imagine what a defeat is for you people.

Our allies did what was considered honorable, rather than follow what the EC did for Venezuela, our allies helped by invading our enemies, in a war that was already well underway and started by the EC.

This quote, more than anything does not make sense.

Our allies did what was considered honorable

Sneak attack my fleet, while it was heading home after a gentlemans agreement with Quebec (well, that must explain why it didn't go through!)

rather than follow what the EC did for Venezuela,

Er.. okay? We support Venezuela.. so your not supporting your allies by attacking us?

our allies helped by invading our enemies

That became your enemies after being attacked by your allies? I don't understand this.. at all.

in a war that was already well underway and started by the EC.

Ermm... okay. Are we talking about the North American war, when Mormon terrorists killed thousands of innocents, or World War III, where DFI-NADTA forces assualted us first? Either way, we need to ask ourselves, does that really make sense?

 

[Shadowbound]

Quebec informed you that it would only allow you to leave after you begged for mercy. You did not comply with those terms, so we assumed the war was still on.

 

[TheLizardKing]

Why would we ask mercy from the losers? You invaded a very small peace of my land. Hardly even the most populated. It was a new city, so, what? You have a few thousand of my people on your hands?

I had Halifax, Boston, and one of the most populace land areas in all of North America. Perhaps you should of protected it better. Ah well. Now it shall be nuked. I'll actually throw 3 at Quebec city, just to make sure you wannabe French roaches are dead.

 

[Shadowbound]

Yes, you overrun our territory with a sneak attack. You acquired a foothold on our coast that would have been cut off and overrun if you had not retreated. Now we shall properly show you how to conduct naval invasions: it's apparent after your latest attempt that you can't accomplish one when someone knows you're coming. We, however, will burn Old Rabat.

Also, it's not New Rabat. It's Banjul. It's been a city for centuries, before you and your delusions of competence moved in.

 

[D'Artagnan59]

To: Pakistan
From: India

Your forces lie trapped on Sumatra, and your land is being taken at an alarmingly fast rate. Surrender before we crush you.

 

[TheLizardKing]

Yes, you overrun our territory with a sneak attack. You acquired a foothold on our coast that would have been cut off and overrun if you had not retreated. Now we shall properly show you how to conduct naval invasions: it's apparent after your latest attempt that you can't accomplish one when someone knows you're coming. We, however, will burn Old Rabat.

Also, it's not New Rabat. It's Banjul. It's been a city for centuries, before you and your delusions of competence moved in.

Rather, why waste the time to embarrass your pathetic nation even more? We'll nuke it ourselves. Of course, then we'll have to nuke, Toronto, Quebec, Boston, Halifax, etc.

If this is really a game you want to play of course. Why not go the route of Deseret, see your in over your head and quit. It's in your heritage, of course.
Speaking of Deseret, I still don't quite know how the EC is in a more compromised position?

 

[Shadowbound]

Your willingness to nuke your own capital is adorable. We were planning to march in with troops, kill everyone, and set the city on fire. But we like your plan better.

 

[Milarqui]

Your willingness to nuke your own capital is adorable. We were planning to march in with troops, kill everyone, and set the city on fire. But we like your plan better.

OOC: Lol. That was so good.

 

[Imago]

Imago, I do not understand, out of the dozens of things previously posted, how TAJ did not know about my nukes? He donated three ASP towards them, and I recall it being agreed they'd be in the Sahara, and/or in Siberia

Various posts mentioned those two places, and since FEAR pulled out, I decided the primary site was in the Sahara, in Tunisia because the Tunisian Sahara is a more inland location. However, since Morocco took point on the project, I came to the conclusion that TAJ wasn't 100% sure on a day to day basis what was going on at the R&D site. They had information, sure, but they weren't getting constant updates.

It's not a crazy. We played right along the rules, investing the money required for such a weapon. Ballistic missiles were already there, just needed to be built. Difference between OTL development and ours was that US had 60 years less of technology and invested only 2 billion dollars in it which was perhaps 7% of their entire WW2 budget. We spent considerably more and with computer modeling we could have run plenty of tests.

And, as I think the update made clear, the project worked! You and all the other Eastern Coalition players now have the tech needed to create nukes, and now you can all either create the design yourselves or get it from TLK, and then start making nukes at 10 per ASP. The penalty for the speed of the project and the security details not being clear was the success of the massive raid/invasion, but you still have all the nuclear technology at your fingertips. The nations of DFI-NADTA might have gotten very lucky thus far, capturing twenty working weapons, but they don't have the ability to reverse engineer anything in a timely fashion.

Imigo, when will the awards be held?

Working on this now.

 

[Kozmos]

Very lucky is the ing understatement of the week.

 

[Crezth]

Well boys, I think this can be salvaged. We do not believe luck should stand on equal footing with brilliance, so if we were not convinced before we are certainly convinced now. Long live the EC! The enemy shall know true pain.