Crezth
i knew you were a real man of the left
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IOT Developmental Thread
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JohannaK
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How different is Iran from RL?
Omega124
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Communist Japan?
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SouthernKing
crickety cricket
Traveller76
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I would like in order of preference: Russian Commonwealth, United States, India
Crezth
i knew you were a real man of the left
@SouthernKing i picked mississippi for the Cajun
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We're touching down. We're about to be Mars first permanent guests, people!
Sir, we're getting some really weird messages from Earth.
Ninjacow64 and Sonereal Presents
STARS WITHOUT END
v.1.5.5
4 AUGUST 2017
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XeL3o1PV-j5CgfF3zFnwvgmIavUNBoi4LPj7gYmtj0o/edit#
Why not take a look for yourself?
Sir, we're getting some really weird messages from Earth.
Ninjacow64 and Sonereal Presents
STARS WITHOUT END
v.1.5.5
4 AUGUST 2017
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1XeL3o1PV-j5CgfF3zFnwvgmIavUNBoi4LPj7gYmtj0o/edit#
Why not take a look for yourself?
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JohannaK
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Is this product in accordance with the Renault line of business?
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So the Stars Without End is a massive redux of the original game that NC and I are going run. It is like the base Stars Without Number faction system, except I gutted core parts of it in favor of a modified economic system based on rules in Suns of Gold.
Stars Without End is a little like Black Comedy, because the focus isn't on nationstates, but corporations, religious movements and organizations, and yeah, governments controlled by these factions. For example, somebody might want to join and say "I don't want to rule the world, I just want to destroy the corporations".
Pretty straight forward, and the starting stats on this faction are below what starting players will start at. The IWW is plutocratic, giving it bonus performing wealth attacks to represent its desire to crush capitalism. It starts with union toughs, who are the kind of guys that stand up for the unions against strikebreakers and the police, and a false front, which exists to confuse police that attempt to raid a union safehouse.
After several turns, the IWW's war on capitalism has left it stronger, but damaged. Having achieved the goal of "Commercial Expansion" several times, now it just wants to take a few turns to lick its wounds.
The reliable union toughs are as strong as ever, and the union has used union dues to hire lawyers and invest in local communities, increasing its ability to tackle corporations and its popularity among the workers of the world.
However, when the going gets tough, the IWW has an ace up its sleeve, a stealthed unit. It is redacted in the public workbook.
After the current goal is completed, the IWW will stand at a crossroad. Will it decide to create its own centers of production and businesses to compete with rival corporations economically, continue its current path of attacking corporations via unionization (via union toughs) and legal challenges (via lawyers), or will it aim higher into the realm of politics, order loyalists to take up arms, and try to seize power with its stealthed guerrilla fighters?
Or maybe it decides to go in one of a dozen different directions we didn't think of.
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Anyway, sign-ups start Friday. Players can start easy mode on Earth or hard mode on Mars. You can be the Neo-British Empire hoping to reestablish a global empire on Earth, or Martian pirates gunning for trade ships bringing vital supplies and colonists to Mars.
Stars Without End is a little like Black Comedy, because the focus isn't on nationstates, but corporations, religious movements and organizations, and yeah, governments controlled by these factions. For example, somebody might want to join and say "I don't want to rule the world, I just want to destroy the corporations".
Pretty straight forward, and the starting stats on this faction are below what starting players will start at. The IWW is plutocratic, giving it bonus performing wealth attacks to represent its desire to crush capitalism. It starts with union toughs, who are the kind of guys that stand up for the unions against strikebreakers and the police, and a false front, which exists to confuse police that attempt to raid a union safehouse.
After several turns, the IWW's war on capitalism has left it stronger, but damaged. Having achieved the goal of "Commercial Expansion" several times, now it just wants to take a few turns to lick its wounds.
The reliable union toughs are as strong as ever, and the union has used union dues to hire lawyers and invest in local communities, increasing its ability to tackle corporations and its popularity among the workers of the world.
However, when the going gets tough, the IWW has an ace up its sleeve, a stealthed unit. It is redacted in the public workbook.
After the current goal is completed, the IWW will stand at a crossroad. Will it decide to create its own centers of production and businesses to compete with rival corporations economically, continue its current path of attacking corporations via unionization (via union toughs) and legal challenges (via lawyers), or will it aim higher into the realm of politics, order loyalists to take up arms, and try to seize power with its stealthed guerrilla fighters?
Or maybe it decides to go in one of a dozen different directions we didn't think of.
***
Anyway, sign-ups start Friday. Players can start easy mode on Earth or hard mode on Mars. You can be the Neo-British Empire hoping to reestablish a global empire on Earth, or Martian pirates gunning for trade ships bringing vital supplies and colonists to Mars.
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Ailedhoo
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I... can't decide between creepy techno-cult with a leader whose mortal status is ambiguousness or the creepy Corporate Collective Conclave with its eugenic obsessions.
Either way: this will be a good game! Join if you can! Excellence be it!
Either way: this will be a good game! Join if you can! Excellence be it!
Crezth
i knew you were a real man of the left
Is there a way to transform pops into slaves? That is to say, could a player conquer rivaling nations and transform the populations of those nations into slave resources to boost their output? Asking for a friend.
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What game are we talking about?
Lord of Elves
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A concept. Maybe kinda similar to Shadowbound's. Year is 2100, the blue in the midwest is boutta be the North American Federation (northern US and Canada). Yes, I intentionally made the map ugly
Some thoughts ... portraying a world with decaying nation-state authority, possibilities for corporation/terror group/NGO players, (more or less) fully-mechanized warfare v. polities that do not have access to state of the art military technology/artificial intelligence and actually have to pay attention to their manpower stat, the importance of access to resources as opposed to access to manpower, social democracies and socialist states v. capitalist/nationalist polities, and how to incorporate the importance of digital infrastructure and "cyberwarfare?"
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Some thoughts ... portraying a world with decaying nation-state authority, possibilities for corporation/terror group/NGO players, (more or less) fully-mechanized warfare v. polities that do not have access to state of the art military technology/artificial intelligence and actually have to pay attention to their manpower stat, the importance of access to resources as opposed to access to manpower, social democracies and socialist states v. capitalist/nationalist polities, and how to incorporate the importance of digital infrastructure and "cyberwarfare?"
Omega124
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I feel like some of the areas that you have flooded are a bit geographically arbitrary. I'm not sure the exact level of sea level rise you're looking for, but overall it seems closest to a 100 meter sea level rise scenerio so I'm going to assume that's your intent.
Focusing on my home area, yes the Hudson will be an area of concern for rising sea levels since its a feeder. However, most of Upstate New York is highlands, and even at 100 meters, you're not going to signifcantly flood the upstate past the Hudson Valley (which I live in RIP me). At 100, you're not going to see any significant flooding into even the tributaries of the Hudson, leaving Western New York relatively flood free outside of the extreme coasts of Lake Ontario (would not effect Buffalo or Rochester, however). Even at 200, 300, the Adirondacks (northern NY) are going to form a pretty large island, even as the Great Lakes/Mohawk River/Erie Canal start to overflow into Western New York lowlands. For the Adirondacks to be as small as you have it, you'd need flooding close to 500 meters, which at that point there's barely any land in the east coast at all.
Meanwhile, for reference, you have the Gulf of Venezeula completely unflooded, despite that would have significant flooding issues with a realistic *2* meter sea level rise, let alone any of these doomsday scenerios.
If you're interested, this is a tool based off of NASA data which could help visualize various levels of flooding. For the most part, the projected flood levels are pretty close to yours in a 100 meter scenerio, but with some notable exceptions. For the most part, the projected flood levels are pretty close to yours in a 100 meter scenerio, but with some notable exceptions. Wouter also made a map with a 200 meter sea level rise (so twice as large than yours) which should also show you Upstate is way too flooded in your scenario to make logical sense. I don't think he bothered with Antarctica though.
Focusing on my home area, yes the Hudson will be an area of concern for rising sea levels since its a feeder. However, most of Upstate New York is highlands, and even at 100 meters, you're not going to signifcantly flood the upstate past the Hudson Valley (which I live in RIP me). At 100, you're not going to see any significant flooding into even the tributaries of the Hudson, leaving Western New York relatively flood free outside of the extreme coasts of Lake Ontario (would not effect Buffalo or Rochester, however). Even at 200, 300, the Adirondacks (northern NY) are going to form a pretty large island, even as the Great Lakes/Mohawk River/Erie Canal start to overflow into Western New York lowlands. For the Adirondacks to be as small as you have it, you'd need flooding close to 500 meters, which at that point there's barely any land in the east coast at all.
Meanwhile, for reference, you have the Gulf of Venezeula completely unflooded, despite that would have significant flooding issues with a realistic *2* meter sea level rise, let alone any of these doomsday scenerios.
If you're interested, this is a tool based off of NASA data which could help visualize various levels of flooding. For the most part, the projected flood levels are pretty close to yours in a 100 meter scenerio, but with some notable exceptions. For the most part, the projected flood levels are pretty close to yours in a 100 meter scenerio, but with some notable exceptions. Wouter also made a map with a 200 meter sea level rise (so twice as large than yours) which should also show you Upstate is way too flooded in your scenario to make logical sense. I don't think he bothered with Antarctica though.
Lord of Elves
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Omega124
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Oh, um, whoops 
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I'm real interested in that
Lord of Elves
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I figured you would end up hereEDIT: I'm still working on this map. For an example of how this would work I ran a game for a second with a similar ruleset on this subforum called LONES: Shut Down by the Narcs. Unfortunately it was called something else but the mods made me change the name, hence the new name
