Luckymoose
The World is Mine
No one is born gay, no one is born anything. You are shaped into what you are in youth. So gay people can be prevented.
Is Being Gay a Choice, Not a Choice, or both.
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Not sure if you were replying to me, the OP or something else... but, yes, in offering my opinion, I'm saying that based on what EVERY gay person I've ever known has told me.
lol, your title is wrong.
holy king
Deity
No one is born black, no one is born anything. You are shaped into what you are in youth. So black people can be prevented.
No one is born an epileptic, no one is born anything. You are shaped into what you are in youth. So epileptic people can be prevented.
I was reply to the OP. That is usually the case when I do not include a quote. Don't know if others here have a different forum participating protocol.
Gays are commonplace enough if ancient greek and roman cultures are any guage. It is my understanding that only when christianity became a dominant force in that part of the world that gayness results in "unfortunate accidents in dark alleys"
Luckymoose
The World is Mine
In literature, the antagonist is that against which the main character or protagonist contends. An antagonist is often a Villain, but may be a force of nature, set of circumstances, an animal, or other force that is in conflict with the protagonist.
People are born black, people are born with ailments. People are not born communist, gay or smart.
holy king
Deity
being gay is not an ideology
anyway, who are you to tell gay people how they have been feeling their whole lives...
Luckymoose
The World is Mine
being gay is not an ideology
anyway, who are you to tell gay people how they have been feeling their whole lives...
Gay was an example of things we are not born as. I can tell gay people that they are not born gay and the choice they made will keep them from reproducing, which is the only reason humans are born, thus making them a useless human.
Moderator Action: Not a particularly nice turn of phrase.
holy king
Deity
i wont comment on the term "useless human" or else i would be banned...
have a nice day
West 36
Can count up to 4
If my only purpose is to reproduce, then there are a lot of things I should just stop doing. How can a completely able-bodied person be useless? They can still work and think can't they? And honestly, where are you getting your facts that people aren't born gay? I can't believe that it is simply a result of people being raised a certain way, because gay people don't come out of predictable situations, which is why its a surprise to some people when they find a family member to be gay. I cannot believe it's a choice, if only because every gay person I know or have heard has said its not one. I'd think they would know.
No, most of us just don't want to be gay.
holy king
Deity
nah, i could have sex with a man, but i couldnt love one...
Kraznaya
Princeps
Tell that to the mentally ********.
Uh, intelligence is well known to be heritable.
Luckymoose
The World is Mine
Leave a baby alone with nothing to teach it. It will never learn anything.
Ziggy Stardust
Absolutely Sane
I always loved spinach and brussel sprouts. My sister hated it. We were both served the same meals as kids.
So, when did I decide I was 'attracted' to those dishes? When did my sis decide not to? And when I say decide, I mean a conscious decision. Which is what makes a choice.
I prefer brunettes over blondes. When did this happen?
Maybe some events took place in my youth that caused this preference, but it sure as heck wasn't a choice. I figure sexual orientation works the same way. Since I never made the choice to be heterosexual.
So, when did I decide I was 'attracted' to those dishes? When did my sis decide not to? And when I say decide, I mean a conscious decision. Which is what makes a choice.
I prefer brunettes over blondes. When did this happen?
Maybe some events took place in my youth that caused this preference, but it sure as heck wasn't a choice. I figure sexual orientation works the same way. Since I never made the choice to be heterosexual.
gay people chose to be gay about as much as I chose to be straight....
of course, a gay could force himself to live a straight life, but that wouldn't change the fact that he's gay.
of course, a gay could force himself to live a straight life, but that wouldn't change the fact that he's gay.
Mirc
Not mIRC!!!
Do you mean the 4% chance increases by 33%? Or the chance itself increases first to 33% then by 11%, then by almost 4%, etc.?
Because if the second one is what that study meant, then, well... my grandfather had 7 brothers and 4 sisters. So does that mean that about 4 of the male children were gay?
QFT.
Stapel
FIAT 850 coupé
Of course it is not a choice. What a totally ridculous idea. 100% of all gay people I know say they did not make a decision to be gay.
That said, one can, of course, choose not to have any sexual contact with people of the same gender, just like one can choose not to conduct any sexual activities at all.
And apart from that, a heterosexual can participate in homosexual activities.
And there ar people in this world who are mentally screwed up. They might suffer form various types of psychich issues. I guess one of them might be that one participates in something one doesn't fancy.
That said, one can, of course, choose not to have any sexual contact with people of the same gender, just like one can choose not to conduct any sexual activities at all.
And apart from that, a heterosexual can participate in homosexual activities.
And there ar people in this world who are mentally screwed up. They might suffer form various types of psychich issues. I guess one of them might be that one participates in something one doesn't fancy.
Margim
Footy's back.
I imagine sexuality when you break it down is a mixture between orientation (what turns you on), attraction (who you want to partner with), and action (who you actually partner with). While for many/most all of the above are the same, variations and differentiations do occur.
edit:
Perhaps most of us are.
I think the whole question of gay/straight/bi is actually a relatively modern creation. We like to define things as 'male' or 'female', without simply acknowledging that we all just 'are'. Physically, most of us are mostly either male or female in terms of body parts. Orientation wise... perhaps some of us are more definitively masculine or more feminine, but we all probably fall somewhere along the spectrum, depending on combinations of genetics, social upbringing, friendships and open-mindedness.
edit:
Perhaps most of us are.
I think the whole question of gay/straight/bi is actually a relatively modern creation. We like to define things as 'male' or 'female', without simply acknowledging that we all just 'are'. Physically, most of us are mostly either male or female in terms of body parts. Orientation wise... perhaps some of us are more definitively masculine or more feminine, but we all probably fall somewhere along the spectrum, depending on combinations of genetics, social upbringing, friendships and open-mindedness.
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