Is Elon Musk a fraud?

Is Elon Musk a fraud?

  • Yes, he is a fraud

    Votes: 46 69.7%
  • No, he isn't a fraud

    Votes: 20 30.3%

  • Total voters
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When Musk talks "against" the project , he is made to "suffer" .
No, he's just an extremely Online™ narcissist who is handling his divorce in the most Middle Aged Guy mode possible.

There's no nefarious deep state here, just Musk, his actions, and their consequences. Sorry.
 
the Anglosaxons have no 'ing Deep State in the first place . Trust me , am an expert on the subject .
 
It's going to get a lot harder for Musk to make unrealistic announcements. Not that long ago, he presented a human in spandex as part of the announcement for supposed AI. Thankfully such crap won't stand again.
=>at some point, if it looks stupid, it's because it is stupid.
 
Gates and Amazon are a lot more refined in how they go about their business/interviews, though. Musk..., even if one accepts what you said about "seeing the disaster" and being pre-emptively punished for the time being so as to keep other billionaires in line, is not looking like a person with a serious, long term plan to support or attack stuff.
PS, there's not even a single interview where he sounds intelligent, unlike Gates/Bez and so on.
more power to the conspiracy . Anyone daring to challenge the cabal and stuff about Ukraine has to be an idiot in the first place .

the Rich have no problem with the Fascism and whatnot to take over the West overtly . They have a problem with Trump the loose cannon . Who is a petulant manchild , like for real , who could mobilize gangs and stuff on a whim . That the Rich prepare for global turmoil by buying hideouts in New Zealand is true and false . Shows they are committed but have no actual desire to go there . Trump's chaos might force them as mobs and AR-15s dispense "justice" and yet they might be caught still in their mansions in America .

musk suffers , discourages people who would organize a little expedition or two to hunt the Rich in New Zealand . It is still on the planet afterall .
 
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I just don't feel like Musk is much of a target in this, given plenty of other (and more serious) people speak against the 1984-like trend with perpetual war for peace.
Sure, some media will pick on Musk due to his twitt against the US supporting Ukraine, but it doesn't seem to be the catalyst in any of this.
 
How much was invested per truck for infrastructure for gas trucks?

Let me put it this way California government will have to built 1 electrical generator substation per every 24 new EV Trucks just to meet the demand for its 1000 kwk charger
Which now raises the question of might be cheaper to develop public transport such as rail which is far cheaper to move feight.
But the US love there roads.
 
looking like a target and being a target are two different things .
 
If he stays sunk, it doesn't matter if it was deliberate or not, at some point you drown ^^
Though (of course) he still has a lot of money, but trials may change that.
 
things do not disappear , just because you say otherwise . It would have been impossible , to distract and deceive such brilliant minds but luckily am an idiot and do not actually try to convict anyone out of the 101% correct way !
 
the trending or whatever subject today on the echo chamber ı follow for news is one poster who says Atatürk was 1,64 meters tall . There are literally hundreds who say he was actually 1,74 and dozens who point out to the 1,85 of the PM and New Turkey is so hopeless that it has to resort to brag about how one is taller than the evil founder of the evil Republic . If one was a telepath , one would surely discover like 10% or whatever were paid trolls , looking die hard Kemalists , to sabotage the Opposition from inside with extreme , so called Kemalist wishes to prolong the robbery that is New Turkey .

what you see in the news is a product . It can be reversed . Two weeks of adulation will make Elon Musk the most honest man ever . With faults , true , with the daring to fix 'em . As proven by his re-hiring of the staff he fired . And those who call him a fraud most fervently today will be the first to sell that as well .
 
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things do not disappear , just because you say otherwise . It would have been impossible , to distract and deceive such brilliant minds but luckily am an idiot and do not actually try to convict anyone out of the 101% correct way !
Everything disappears. That's why we have history as a record, as flawed as it can be, nevermind archaeology or paleontology. But like you said, you're the expert.
As proven by his re-hiring of the staff he fired .
You mean the staff he scrambled to get back, most of whom told him to get lost? Alrighty-then :D
 
already called you some invincible smart person . Is this a 9 to 5 job for you to fix evil people online ?
 
I am beginning to think you two are incompatible ^^
Liking r16's posts has always been an acquired taste, though.
And for the record, he is beyond any doubt massively better than his countrymen in a certain other forum; for starters, he is polite. I like r16 (obviously not patronizing, I'd still like him the same if he was from some western country)
 
dear Forum Commissar is on a different tangent . It is his desire to peddle the idea that the White Anglo Saxon Protestants have seen the light , so ably proven by the Black Greek Gods on some Netflix production and some Scooby Doo reproduction that doesn't have Scooby Doo and ı think that's some Hanna Barbera cartoon , with the dog and the van and 4 "White kids" because Anglosaxons nowly warmly embrace the brotherhood of all . When China , too , falls we will all be eager to hear his opinions on how such an enlightened lot could revert to WASP squared .
 
I am beginning to think you two are incompatible ^^
Nah, it's just a bit of tit-for-tat. r16 likes fishing, after all :D

It's all pretty on-topic for Musk spiraling (publicly) into alt-right nonsense because he's so desperate for validation of his buying of Twitter that the only people who flocked to him are all the people that were banned for repeatedly breaking what little rules the platform previously decided to enforce.

Who needs paid trolls when you have an $8 verification scheme, sold to people desperate to seem important?
 
How in the world can someone believe Elon Musk is a target of the deep state? He's a creation of it.
 
there is only one Deep State and it is not American , British or any combination of the two . Which still does not make that state anything to be proud of . Secondly the whole argument here is that Musk is not a target of the wannabe , so called Templars and stuff . He is a ploy to scare people from talking up against magnificient plans to ensure the superiority of certain countries , like forever .
 
Being a rail enthusiast, I followed the whole hyperloop story from start in 2013. And very quickly, it appeared everything was wrong there: vacuum not being the actual high speed rail problem yet being crazy expensive to achieve, severely underestimated construction costs for the infrastructure, capsules not having the passengers capacity to make any kind of operational profits, security flaws and so on and so forth.

Then he founded the Boring company, telling the world that engineers were all idiots who didn't know how to dig, and it appeared that his way to reduce boring costs was to build dangerously undersized tunnels with lacking ventilation and no security exits.

Later it appeared from Elon Musk's own words that hyperloop was designed as a scam from start, his only objective being to disrupt California's high speed rail project and promote cars.

And that's only a part of it. Elon Musk says so much about everything which went wrong in the Western world in the past 20 years.
 
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