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[Civrules]

I've got a problem with my left shoulder specifically when weight training.
When I do the Front and Side Lateral Raises, that's when I feel the most pain at the core of my left shoulder. The funny thing is that as I'm about to let go of the weight and my muscles start to relax, that's the time I feel the most pain, and after I've completely let go of the weight and muscles are relaxed, the pain stops.
There’s nothing like this at all with my right shoulder.

As for other daily activities other than weight lifting, I’ve got no such problems.

Any advice?

(See, the thing I fear most is not being able to do anything with it for 6+ weeks.)

 

[FriendlyFire]

hmmm..

Dose anyone also get sore ankles ? I found that after a 15min run (not use to it) iam having pain from my ankles, its like a sore and at first it prevented me from sleeping as a irritation. yes I do promper strenching prior to running. And I;ve found over several weeks my legs ajusted and the sore is less.

generally I soak my feet in hot water for 30mins afterwards to relax the muscles.

Dose anyone else have this problem ?
Could it be my shoes ?
Or from running on hard surfaces ?

 

[Samson]

I've got a problem with my left shoulder specifically when weight training.
When I do the Front and Side Lateral Raises, that's when I feel the most pain at the core of my left shoulder. The funny thing is that as I'm about to let go of the weight and my muscles start to relax, that's the time I feel the most pain, and after I've completely let go of the weight and muscles are relaxed, the pain stops.
There’s nothing like this at all with my right shoulder.

As for other daily activities other than weight lifting, I’ve got no such problems.

Any advice?

(See, the thing I fear most is not being able to do anything with it for 6+ weeks.)

IANA doctor, and this advice is probably worth what you paid for it.

It sounds a little like a rotator cuff inflamation. It is one of the tendons that run over the shoulder joint having a spot of inflamation. You can normally locate it by moving the shoulder through differing degrees of movement in certain angles. Ie. you do the Front or Side Lateral Raises, starting with little movement and getting more. There will be a certain point that the pain starts. You can sometimes here a sound or feel an increased resistance at this point. I THINK that would be fairly definative proof of my diagnosis.

 

[El_Machinae]

The pain kicks in when you're doing the eccentric portion of a lateral raise, or when you relax the muscle? Is there a clicking sensation when you're lowering the weight?

 

[Neonanocyborgasm]

I've got a problem with my left shoulder specifically when weight training.
When I do the Front and Side Lateral Raises, that's when I feel the most pain at the core of my left shoulder. The funny thing is that as I'm about to let go of the weight and my muscles start to relax, that's the time I feel the most pain, and after I've completely let go of the weight and muscles are relaxed, the pain stops.
There’s nothing like this at all with my right shoulder.

As for other daily activities other than weight lifting, I’ve got no such problems.

Any advice?

(See, the thing I fear most is not being able to do anything with it for 6+ weeks.)

Probably one of the myriad of musculoskeletal overuse syndromes (tendonitis/bursitis).

Easiest thing to do is rest the shoulder for a few days, and take motrin. This will take care of the problem in the vast majority of cases.

 

[GoldEagle]

I have some ways to help stop shoulder pain...PM me if interested (they're free, of course).

 

[Heretic_Cata]

I think i had what you were describing when i was working out ... but i had & have a LOT bigger medical issues to worry about so i just ignored it as usual.

I also remember an annoying pain at the joint of my elbows when working out the biceps muscles. That was really painfull, it felt like the 2 bones were grinding eachother, it was like there was rust between them.
Oh well, just another annoying thing on my "ignore list".

 

[Civrules]

IANA doctor, and this advice is probably worth what you paid for it.

It sounds a little like a rotator cuff inflamation. It is one of the tendons that run over the shoulder joint having a spot of inflamation. You can normally locate it by moving the shoulder through differing degrees of movement in certain angles. Ie. you do the Front or Side Lateral Raises, starting with little movement and getting more. There will be a certain point that the pain starts. You can sometimes here a sound or feel an increased resistance at this point. I THINK that would be fairly definative proof of my diagnosis.

There is some pain when I do start the lifting motion, and it is pretty consistent up to the point where I start moving my arms down. When I do start moving the weight down, the pain increases more.

The pain kicks in when you're doing the eccentric portion of a lateral raise, or when you relax the muscle? Is there a clicking sensation when you're lowering the weight?

Good questions... I'll try to be as clear as possible:

Again, there is some pain as I lift the weight up, but nothing compared to how it is when I start lowering the weight and when I'm in the process of relaxing the muscle for the Front/Side Lateral Raise. One day I moved the weight down and just let it go very abruptly and the pain was extremely excruciating. After that I learned to let go of it very slowly.

On the Front/Side Lateral Raise, there is no clicking at all. There is just a little pain as I use my muscles to pull the weight up, a lot more pain as I move it down and then even more pain as I completely let go of the weight.

On the Dumbbell Chest Press, yes, there is audible clicking on my left shoulder as I lower the weight down. However, there is no pain whatsoever. I can put a lot of weight, but there will not be any pain at all, just the clicking as I move it down.

 

[Civrules]

Heh, missed three posts. Took me long enough to reply.

Probably one of the myriad of musculoskeletal overuse syndromes (tendonitis/bursitis).

Easiest thing to do is rest the shoulder for a few days, and take motrin. This will take care of the problem in the vast majority of cases.

I'll try that also. If it doesn't help I'll go to the doc.

I have some ways to help stop shoulder pain...PM me if interested (they're free, of course).

I'll PM ya...

I also remember an annoying pain at the joint of my elbows when working out the biceps muscles. That was really painfull, it felt like the 2 bones were grinding eachother, it was like there was rust between them.
Oh well, just another annoying thing on my "ignore list".

Yeah, I have a similar but minor problem like that on my... you guessed it, left arm. It's not that bad, but compared to my good right arm, it is noticeable.

 

[GoldEagle]

Alright, I'll write up that report for you CivRules. Expect it in your inbox around 11-11:15 EST.

 

[Civrules]

TY for that article...
If this doesn't get better I'll for sure go see a doc.

 

[GoldEagle]

No problemo

 

[LLXerxes]

CR, I would advise not asking people on a forum. If it's a serious issue, you're probably better off with a person you can meet face to face.

 

[El_Machinae]

The lack of clicking is good news. I would say that you're inflamed and likely over-training.

Are you taking Salmon Oil? It helps reduce inflammation.

You should lay off the exercise for awhile. I would recommend light (and slow) eccentrics which has been shown to speed the healing of an inflamed joint. Using a light weight, casually snatch the dumbell up above your head and lower it slowly over the course of 30 seconds or so (if you can't do the eccentric for 30 seconds, you're going too heavy). You don't want the concentric portion of the exercise (hence the snatch), just the slow eccentric. After a 2 minute rest, you can do it again. I don't see much use in going beyond 6-8 reps, though.

Because this rehab movement is so benign, feel free to do it every day (or couple of days) ... but for goodness sake, stop doing shoulder work for awhile. It takes weeks to lose actual muscle - your size might decrease, but that's just due to a reduction in glycogen stores and swelling. In a couple weeks, you should be fine going back in. To compensate, working grip and forearms (in the meantime) means that you can work on secondary muscle groups to tighten up any weak links.

Do you do rotator cuff exercises?

 

[Civrules]

Thanks for the suggestions...
I haven't done rotator cuff exercises in a while, btw.

 

[El_Machinae]

If I recall, they're not a major muscle, to be built up or anything. By they need to be kept in shape. Many bench press injuries are due to weak rotator cuff. I think they respond well to high rep work, since they're so weak.

 

[Civrules]

Its been about two weeks since I've done any shoulder exercise and today when I did it, there really was no such pain. It's a great sign but I may take a few more days off just in case. Thanks for the help here everyone.

 

[Atlas14]

@Civrules: You probably were overstressing your muscles, and the best solution is to simply take more breaks. When it comes to purely weight lifting, overlifting is worse for you than taking breaks, such as every other day.

 

[Civrules]

Yup, that's right. I do try taking breaks (for certain muscle groups) at least 48 hours between workouts. And of course, that's the period where the muscle actually grows so breaks are certainly much more advantageous.

 

[CaptainF]

I like to train with jump ropes on a concrete patch that I hand out at.

After about half an hour of intense jump roping, my left ankle hurts.

I wonder why this is?