Well, a little while ago he was tweeting Iranian propaganda. So, no surprise he's now tweeting Far Right propaganda. It's what his base wants.
Is Trump mentally unfit for the presidency to the point that he ought be removed from office?
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Well, a little while ago he was tweeting Iranian propaganda. So, no surprise he's now tweeting Far Right propaganda. It's what his base wants.
If they pray (in a non-institutional way) for wisdom to make decisions, that's acceptable. If they start writing legislation and making other decisions "because God told me to", that's entirely different.
This is one of the reasons why I object so much to one of the lines in the Canadian national anthem: "God keep our land glorious and free." That, to me, implies that we're too helpless, stupid, apathetic, and inept to do it ourselves and have to go running to a supernatural being to protect us.
Political leaders are supposed to have the self-confidence to make their own decisions. If they need supernatural guidance, horoscopes, Ouija boards, or whatever, they should step down in favor of people who don't need such crutches.
Reagan joked about nuking Russia: "We start bombing in five minutes."
In the political climate of the day, that was a monumentally stupid thing to say. What if his horoscope one day had been worded so he could interpret it to mean he should bomb Russia or do something else that would have led to catastrophic results?
Joan of Arc wouldn't have believed in the concept of modern democracies.
Are they not natives of this continent? Have the African-Americans said, "Don't use that term to describe us, since it lumps us into one blob"?
Most educated people know that they're not all one group of identical people.
Yes.
I'm relieved every day I wake up and find that it hasn't happened.
Again no equivalency. WW2 caused more harm. So did the Mongol Empire. The power of nations to do harm is great as is their power to do good. The issue is that we have a president who is deliberately spreading hate speech for his personal enjoyment. You are falling into "Whataboutism".
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And now His Trumpiness gets into a Twitter spat with May over him retweeting far-right Britain First videos.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-42176507
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-42176507
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No, because I'm not saying that Trump's tweets aren't a problem. I agree, they're a problem. If Trump decides to go and invade North Korea that will be a bigger problem.
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The burden of proof is on her... A genealogical organization looked at the available records and found no evidence of her Indian ancestry. Wouldn't she need that evidence if she wants to claim that ancestry? I mean, it dont matter to me if she does or doesn't. The point of Trump's attack is she got busted for it. He wouldn't care either if she was his ally or friend, but she attacks him and he attacks her.
Are you mistaken for being Cherokee? Nobody said there are no blue eyed blondes with Cherokee blood, the laughter was when Trevor Noah mocked Harvard for presenting Warren as their minority Indian to deflect criticism of being too white. She probably looks whiter than most of them. Obama's half white but he went thru life as a black man, Warren has gone thru life as a white woman - she's enjoyed white privilege while claiming minority status - and liberals dont seem to care, maybe some minorities do. I tend to believe her, if she grew up in Oklahoma there's certainly a better chance she has a Cherokee ancestor... even a chance that ancestor was a descendant of Pocahontas.
Reminder: Trump calling ANYONE a liar is like the pot calling the eggshell black.Trump is now averaging 9 lies per day..
He doesn't excuse the rest of us from ethical behavior. Warren is lying when she defends herself by turning Pocahontas into a racial slur, she knows why he's calling her Pocahontas and it aint got anything to do with race.
Have any polls showing how Indians feel? Preferably polls of Indians who know why Trump calls her Pocahontas
I've seen interviews of people who dont agree with you, big deal. But you posted back in #474 an article and called the name Pocahontas a racial slur. You're assuming Trump means it as a racial slur and ignoring the context showing why race isn't involved. Nobody hears Trump and says "that Pocahontas sure inspires my racism". What people hear is Warren got caught lying. Well, the ones who know why Trump calls her Pocahontas. I didn't know someone actually investigated her claim.Why do I have to name anything? The accusation I was addressing claimed Trump was attacking her over preferential treatment. I explained why thats wrong and now you want me to show the preferential treatment he wasn't attacking her over? But since you ask, according to Trevor Noah Harvard deflected criticism for being too white by pointing to her, that makes her more valuable than someone they cant point at. Thats preferential treatment.
I didn't say liberals are racists, I said they're turning the name of Pocahontas into a derogatory term. Didn't you say her name was a racial slur now? I think so... Trump didn't do that. You did. Warren did...and she did it to stop Trump from bringing attention to her possible deception.
Before we got on this subject I was calling for Trump to be impeached for sexual assault. Zkribbler correctly 'defended' Trump and I didn't accuse him of defending a sexual predator/groper.
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TF said it rubbed people the wrong way to lump native americans into one blob... thats what he did, lumped them into one blob.
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No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no!
She is the one accused of lying. The burden on proof is on the accuser.
The accusers have no proof. They should shut up.
Let there be proof or let there be silence!
I said Trump was using it as a racial slur.
In certain contexts, of course it does, and should. But if I'm going to talk about the aboriginal population of Canada in a general way, I'm not going to start naming every last group. I'd be at it for quite awhile.
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No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no!
She is the one accused of lying. The burden on proof is on the accuser.
The accusers have no proof. They should shut up.
Let there be proof or let there be silence!
I said Trump was using it as a racial slur.
That was addressed to Hobbs... He said her name was a racial slur now. If you tell a tribal council you're an Indian, they dont take your word for it. They need proof. You accused Trump of using a racial slur but I dont see you backing it up. So far I've been told Trump was condemning preferential treatment and mocking squaws. No, he's mocking a white senator who got busted claiming Indian heritage. Race aint got nothing to do with it.
And if you call yourself an Indian and cant back it up when somebody challenges you on it, the burden is on you. The critic already tried to find the evidence and couldn't, that doesn't let Warren off the hook. If I call myself a veteran of the Vietnam War and somebody challenges me, I gotta back up my claims, not them. They dont have to prove I wasn't there, I have to prove I was there.
This is the kind of BS that gives weight to Trumps criticism of the 'fake news'. What Warren did was slimy, she's lying and she's hiding behind Indians and the media is right there to defend and promote her slander.
TF said lumping them into one group rubs people the wrong way. Thats what he did, he lumped them into one group while complaining about lumping them into one group. So what context are you talking about?
I am coming at this from a more general perspective (and context). We've got our own aboriginal-related issues going on in Canada, but I will say that some of them here have spoken up to say they're disgusted at Trump's behavior.
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Okie doke.
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Yes, as it is a racial slur now because Trump made it one and his fans will perpetuate it.
The rest of your post is just the same recycled garbage that ignores all of the counterpoints. You're just repeating yourself.
Tell me more about how liberals are the real racists for fighting racism.
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Berzerker obviously knows more than Native Americans about racism against Native Americans.
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If there's a South Asian taking too much time ahead of me in the line, and I say "I wish that Ghandi would just hurry up," my animus may be directed to the South Asian guy, but my use of the term "Ghandi" would still be racist. It flattens a rich and diverse culture to one representative figure, however revered. If it's pointed out to me that the individual is Pakistani, and I say "whatever," that just compounds the racism.
Racism can take different forms. It's not always an expression of hostility. It can take the form of contempt, dismissiveness, a cavalier indifference to a particular culture or ethnic group. Trump's use of "Pocahontas" is racist in this way, as evidenced in part by the offensiveness in his use of the term that isn't contested even by his supporters here: his prioritizing his own jejune penchant for using disparaging terms against political opponents over honoring the code-talkers he was supposed to be honoring. The same hell-with-you indifference he exhibited to the code-talkers in that room, he exhibits toward all Native Americans when he uses Pocahontas as a vehicle for political attack.
Pocahontas is not a racial slur. Trump's use of her name is racist.
Racism can take different forms. It's not always an expression of hostility. It can take the form of contempt, dismissiveness, a cavalier indifference to a particular culture or ethnic group. Trump's use of "Pocahontas" is racist in this way, as evidenced in part by the offensiveness in his use of the term that isn't contested even by his supporters here: his prioritizing his own jejune penchant for using disparaging terms against political opponents over honoring the code-talkers he was supposed to be honoring. The same hell-with-you indifference he exhibited to the code-talkers in that room, he exhibits toward all Native Americans when he uses Pocahontas as a vehicle for political attack.
Pocahontas is not a racial slur. Trump's use of her name is racist.
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Even if Trump's Pocahontas statement wasn't a "racial slur" it was completely inappropriate and unnecessary.
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That is a very important point. A lot of discussion about claimed Native ancestry treats it as something that should be clearly documented, as if Natives were the same as Poles or Irish, as if there should be a big register in New York with the ancestors in question clearly stated- as if, this is all to say, the United States government and a great many of its people had not conducted a centuries-long campaign of cultural genocide against Native peoples, in which assimilation and the consequent erasure of Native memory was a central pillar. People may have a vague folk memory of a Native ancestry, and it may be wishful nonsense, but it may be a person who was forcibly removed from their family and their culture, whose origins may have been an embarrassing family secret in their own lifetime. As Zkribbler says, the lack of positive documentation is far from conclusive proof of anything.
Ironically, Pocahontas is not part of this. She is claimed as an ancestry by men old Virginia families, through her son Thomas Rolfe, because those families are rich and white and could wear an exotic Native "princess" as a family heirloom, where for poor people of mixed or ambiguous ethnicity, such ancestors became an albatross around their necks, something to be hushed and half-forgotten, until, generations later, it became safe to remember them- and despite the notion that such ancestors are fashionable, their descendants are as likely to be mocked for the claim, because a lot of Americans seem to prefer their Indians dead and gone.
It's really a Russian nesting doll of offensiveness, this whole thing.
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