Westmoreland is just an uppity cracker.
Is "uppity"
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MobBoss
Off-Topic Overlord
Yeah... the Irish had a real tough time compared to those uppity negros
I never said it was worse, but there is a history of it. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Irish_racism
dwaxe
is not a fanatic
What? Whites were enslaved? When? Getting over it is a simple matter of forgetting everything. Unfortunately, just forgetting everything in a few years does not fix the problem, and it may appear again.
Racism overhyped? I guess you don't know any southern bred racists, you haven't mentioned anyone. No matter how small a group they are, as long as such blatant racists exist, there can be no peace from anyone attacked.
Yeah, the Irish didn't have it so great. How much of that still exists today though? How much easier is it for a society to integrate when it hasn't been torn apart?
They're completely different situations. And while race relations have gotten so much better in the last 40 years (as I said in another thread, my generation doesn't understand the 'historic' quality of a black man being nominated for the Presidency by a major party) it's not at a point of closure that the Irish have reached.
You once said that you sat on a board of elders (or some uppity title like that) for a church that served blacks and whites. Have you ever talked race relations with black members of your church? I ask not as an accusation but out of curiosity. I honestly believe you when you say that the word 'uppity' when used towards a black man doesn't raise questions in your mind. I just don't understand how that is.
It's those uppity negroes being overly sensitive.
FriendlyFire
Codex WMDicanious
ummmm........
Extremely normal.
Oh, I so don't want to post this.
For the record, MobBoss is right. I'm 34 and I've lived in Alabama for the vast majority of my life, and I've never heard the term 'uppity' used in a racial sense outside of art produced before I was born.
This situation actually seems much more in line with the current popular ban on the use of the word 'niggardly'.
If you are eager to feel offense, feel free to do so. No one's trying to stop you. But don't drag the rest of us into your hate. We've had more than our share already.
For the record, MobBoss is right. I'm 34 and I've lived in Alabama for the vast majority of my life, and I've never heard the term 'uppity' used in a racial sense outside of art produced before I was born.
This situation actually seems much more in line with the current popular ban on the use of the word 'niggardly'.
If you are eager to feel offense, feel free to do so. No one's trying to stop you. But don't drag the rest of us into your hate. We've had more than our share already.
Harbringer
Your A One Flower Garden
I'm with Mobboss for once in my entire life, people need to stop being so overly sensitive about racism.
Miles Teg
Nuclear Powered Mentat
It's about 50/50 in my experience.
MobBoss
Off-Topic Overlord
Uhm. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_slavery_in_the_United_States
Wrong. Getting over it is realizing that we have embraced racial equality and are never going back and understanding this. One that forgets history is doomed to repeat it.
Dude, I was born and raised in rural Arkansas....I think I qualify to know. Does racism exist there? Absolutely. But guess what, schools have been integrated for a very long time now. White and black have been getting along pretty good for decades now, and its about time we actually admitted it.
You are never going to eliminate all racism. Thats impossible. But we can pretty well eliminate all overt racism. No more segregation. No more back of the bus. Etc.
MobBoss
Off-Topic Overlord
We wont ever reach closure if people continue to look for ways to be upset and offended at the slightest thing.
It was about 90-10 black/white.
Maybe its because I am not a racist.
I, too, find myself in the unusual situation of agreeing with MobBoss. I have never heard this word used specifically in the context of racism or other bigoted sayings. In my experience, "uppity" simply means a person who is reaching beyond his status (whatever it might be), or a disobedient child. I would also use it to describe people who deliberately troll Internet forums and expect not to be disciplined.No, I am not a racist, and despite being born and raised in rural Arkansas in a farming community, I never once, EVER, heard this used in reference to a black person.
Thats why I disagree that its a racial slur.
Oh, and my wife has used it a few times on our kids in a 'dont get uppity with me' usage....and fwiw, my kids arent black.
My own mother has used the word "uppity" to me, and I'm a blonde, blue-eyed Swedish-Norwegian Canadian. The words she uses to describe the ethnic groups to whom she is prejudiced cannot be posted on this forum.
I may have used the word "uppity" myself once or twice to my cats when they were misbehaving. Does that mean I am prejudiced toward felines? Of course not. It just means I was upset with my cats, and telling them off.
I think it's one of those words whose meaning depends entirely on context and region.
I must agree that it was inexcusably rude to use it to describe Obama and his wife. Was it said within Congress? Or was it on neutral ground? The reason I ask is because of a concept we have here in Canada of "unparliamentary language." An insult spoken within the Commons is treated more seriously than one spoken outside the Commons.
Bugfatty300
Buddha Squirrel
If someone is uppity I'll call them on it. Black or white. For me the word is used for snobs.
And yes "uppity" is primarily of Southeastern dialect. Which many people automatically associate with racism. Southaphobes just can't see that in the South people use these words in a harmless context completely detached from anything racial. They only believe in the context of the media and stereotypes.
So don't talk about Obama in your native southern draw or you'll be labeled a racist.
And yes "uppity" is primarily of Southeastern dialect. Which many people automatically associate with racism. Southaphobes just can't see that in the South people use these words in a harmless context completely detached from anything racial. They only believe in the context of the media and stereotypes.
So don't talk about Obama in your native southern draw or you'll be labeled a racist.
angrybellsprout
Prince
Funny how bigots always attempt to smear the South as racist. Then again the people who tend to make these claims come from pure white living areas in the north, and have never lived around significant populations of blacks.
angrybellsprout
Prince
I think that you're wrong here. Self-segregation is a major problem, and at least when I was still in school, the white kids were physically threatened and/or assulted if they dared to sit in the back of the bus.
QuoVadisNation
keeping your angel alive
If the person who said it said "uppity negro," then the democrats in this example might have a case. Unfortunately, Augurey, uppity can and is used to more innocuous contexts not only in the south but also in the north. For example, a six year old child in class calling the teacher wrong when the kid has no idea what he's talking about qualifies as uppity.
My point is that while the word can be racist, it's a stretch.
My point is that while the word can be racist, it's a stretch.
Pannonius
Reconquistador
It's unbelievable what is considered racism these days...
Just for the record, there were white slaves for thousands of years, and opression of Irish people in their own homeland lasted for hundreds of years, certainly longer then the slavery in North America.
Just for the record, there were white slaves for thousands of years, and opression of Irish people in their own homeland lasted for hundreds of years, certainly longer then the slavery in North America.
Virote_Considon
The Great Dictator
What an uppity thread.
Dr.Mindbender
King
It seem like a sarcastic comment to me.
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