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As shown above, there's recent historical evidence of the USA planning and devising to manufacture consent and to provoke war by means of staging false flag operations, committing acts of terrorism in U.S, and killing its own innocent civilians.

As such, it is not out of the realm of questioning that ISIS could simply be a provocative agent, which the West has manufactured to give itself justification to enter countries that are considered a threat or against their national interest.

Does the Iraq war and the pre-text of weapons of mass destruction (of which no evidence was found) ring a bell?

The website claims that the leaked documents by Edward Snowden expose the leader of ISIS as being a Mossad agent. I have to say the pictures do strike an uncanny resemblance. Coincidence? I do not believe so.
 
If it's nothing more than a provocative agent, it's a provocative agent that's got out of hand, don't you think?

The pictures are of Bagdadhi apparently, or somebody who looks like him. But what do photos prove these days?

But look at your video again. It begins with HUA which stands for what? I've forgotten and can't be bothered to look.

Then ISIS stands for Israel Secret Intelligence Service? Really? You expect me to take this seriously?

edit: I looked. It's Humanity United Against Ashkenazi. Dang! You've got me. I'm convinced! Nope. This is the real deal. No conspiracy theory to see here.
 
Okay, so if ISIS was an Israeli invention, does it mean Israel controlled by Bulgaria?

Yes, probably so. Though Bulgaria is controlled by the Netherlands, which controls everything. Secretly. Je Maintiendrai is the secret password of the extraterrestrial lions who can shapeshift into humans, such as Willem van Oranje!
 
By the way, more and more people across all disciplines are speaking out against 9/11, that's the first piece of the puzzle. If you're convinced that 9/11 was a false flag operation, then everything else will start making sense. If not, then nothing will.


Link to video.
 
OK. Look. I don't know what you're trying to prove here. But if you want people to take you seriously, I suggest you ditch the conspiracy theories.

No way would the US government organize crashing two airplanes into the World Trade Centre.
 
By the way, more and more people across all disciplines are speaking out against 9/11, that's the first piece of the puzzle. If you're convinced that 9/11 was a false flag operation, then everything else will start making sense. If not, then nothing will.


Link to video.

If you were to use Occam's razor, you would probably have slit your throat by now.
 
Seriously? Don't tell you people actually are buying the entire ISIS facade?

IS is there because USA invaded Iraq. It really is that simple. Time and again life shows one cannot act just because one can. There are always, always, always unforeseen complications when you let genie out of bottle. Read Quran before invading any Muslim country. It clearly says there -- if they fight with you guys -- you guys fight with them. If you are not Muslim and they invade your country and you don't fight -- you can go and live somewhere peacefully. But if you are Muslim and you don't fight back -- you are going to hell! Al-Baghdadi was just minding his business during Saddam. But if you brake the hell loose -- well, all the hell will break loose. The folly of fast and victorious war against inferior army always forgets that in addition to army, there is a nation.
 
Simple really: if 9/11 was a false flag operation - a complete hoax (which it is) to manufacture consent to wage wars in the middle east and to instigate the the so-called farcical "war terror", then ISIS being the CIA/Mossad's side show isn't that of a big deal, as it takes away the "Shock & disbelief" factor.

If anything, history tends to repeat itself. In the 1960s, America's top military leaders drafted plans to kill innocent people and commit acts of terrorism in U.S. cities to create public support for a war against Cuba. Look up operation Northwood.
 
"Alice laughed: "There's no use trying," she said; "one can't believe impossible things."
"I daresay you haven't had much practice," said the Queen. "When I was younger, I always did it for half an hour a day. Why, sometimes I've believed as many as six impossible things before breakfast."
Lewis Carroll.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Northwoods

Kennedy personally rejected the Northwoods proposal,

Looks to me like a plan that was never put into effect.
 
Looks to me like a plan that was never put into effect.

Of course not, captain obvious. Otherwise, Cuba would be a part of the USA now. However, such a plan was indeed conceived, planned, and devised by America's top military leaders in the 1960's.

It included mudering innocent people and commit acts of terrorism in U.S. cities to create public support for a war against Cuba.

Point of interest: Kennedy was assassinated later on.
 
So because someone drafted the Northwoods plan (but didn't act on it), that proves that ISIS is a facade for the US government, and Baghdadi is a Mossad agent?

Yeah. I'll swallow that one.
 
So because someone drafted the Northwoods plan (but didn't act on it), that proves that ISIS is a facade for the US government, and Baghdadi is a Mossad agent?

Yeah. I'll swallow that one.

Also, Chewbacca does exist. And because of this, all what Unicorny says is true.

Makes quite a lot of sense!
 
Also, Chewbacca does exist. And because of this, all what Unicorny says is true.

Makes quite a lot of sense!

I bet he supports the "Loose Change" 9/11 theory as well even though there is absolutely no verifiable evidence that supports the claim.

This of course is the problem with just about every conspiracy theory. Those who shout them seem to conveniently never be able to provide evidence when asked and hand-wave it away by saying something to the effect of "do you think they would leave evidence of their plot just lying around!!!!?!?!??!?".

As to the whole Operation Northwoods thing: I can see how someone with no experience in military planning could see a conspiracy there. However there are literally thousands of operations that get written up and even signed off on that end up getting scrapped because it finally crosses someone's desk who sees it for just how ridiculous it is and has the authority to scrap it. So I'm sure if you dug through classified military archives you would find a lot of plans similar to Operation Northwoods. However, the fact that none of those plans have ever been carried out or acted upon shows that such plans are nothing more than the crappy byproducts of the military's strategic brainstorming process.

So Unicorny, I'm going to ask this even though I know for a fact you can't provide it: What evidence do you have that proves ISIS is a Western/Israeli creation? For your information, half-baked articles, Youtube videos, and anything else that is not verifiable do not count as evidence. Show me some government documents, policy letters, tape recordings of officials discussing the plan, or any other type of official government media that shows this plan came from the West or Israel.

Take your time, I'll wait...
 
Okay, so if ISIS was an Israeli invention, does it mean Israel controlled by Bulgaria?

Yes, probably so. Though Bulgaria is controlled by the Netherlands, which controls everything. Secretly. Je Maintiendrai is the secret password of the extraterrestrial lions who can shapeshift into humans, such as Willem van Oranje!

I, as an entity that definitely does not control Israel, will neither deny or approve of the statement that the country currently located near the Black Sea, is controlling Israel.

And that one time ISIS terrorists bombed some Jews in Burgas? It was actually in-fighting, the front of the Israeli revolution! It has began!
 
Unicorny, I would suggest you read up on pre, during and post World War I Middle East history from reputable academic resources and many of your questions and theories will be answered and changed. Guaranteed.

Things are not as shallow as the American and British governments wanting a large Jewish state in the Middle East.
 
To elaborate further:

Operation Northwood was drafted by the United State's Department of Defense (DoD) and the Joint Chiefs of Staff, and was signed by Chairman Lyman Lemnitzer in the 1960's. The Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff is, by law, the highest-ranking military officer of the United States Armed Forces, and the principal military adviser to the President of the United States.

Lemnitzer and the Joint Chiefs worked out a complex deception:

An aircraft at Elgin AFB would be painted and numbered as an exact duplicate for a civil registered aircraft belonging to a CJA proprietary organization in the Miami area. At a designated time the duplicate would be substituted for the actual civil aircraft and would be loaded with the selected passengers, all boarded under carefully prepared aliases. The actual registered aircraft would be converted to a drone [a remotely controlled unmanned aircraft]. Take off times of the drone aircraft and the actual aircraft will be scheduled to allow a rendezvous south of Florida.

From the rendezvous point the passenger-carrying aircraft will descend to minimum altitude and go directly into an auxiliary field at Elgin AFB where arrangements will have been made to evacuate the passengers and return the aircraft to its original status. The drone aircraft meanwhile will continue to fly the filed flight plan. When over Cuba the drone will be transmitting on the international distress frequency a "May Day" message stating he is under attack by Cuban MiG aircraft. The transmission will be interrupted by destruction of the aircraft, which will be triggered by radio signal. This will allow ICAO [International Civil Aviation Organization radio stations in the Western Hemisphere to tell the U.S. what has happened to the aircraft instead of the U.S. trying to "sell" the incident.

Sounds awfully familiar, does it not? . It's all in the dis-classified documents. Go read it up.

And in case you're wondering, Joint Chiefs of Staff is a military executive body in the USA and is composed of senior uniformed leaders in the Department of Defense who advise the Secretary of Defense, the Homeland Security Council, the National Security Council and the President of the United States on military matters.

The plan was then authorized by the Joint Chiefs of Staff, but then rejected by President John F. Kennedy.

In other words, DoDs & the most senior military USA figure authorized the:

  • killing of innocent American people and commit acts of terrorism in U.S. cities to create public support for a war against Cuba.

The only reason it was rejected is because the president at that time thought otherwise. Different time, different president, and history may have been rewritten. However, what this operation irrefutably proves is:

  • The USA government (DoD and the Joint Chiefs of Staff, etc) are both capable and absolutely fine with the idea of killing of innocent American people and commit acts of terrorism in U.S. cities to create public support for a war against another country.

Not convinced yet?

Look up Operation Gladio. Operation Gladio is an undisputed historical fact. Gladio was part of a post-World War II program set up by the CIA and NATO supposedly to thwart future Soviet/communist influence in Italy and Western Europe.

The existence of Gladio was confirmed and admitted by the Italian government in 1990, after a judge, Felice Casson, discovered the network in the course of his investigations into terrorism. Italian prime minister Giulio Andreotti admitted Gladio’s existence but tried to minimize its significance.

The main function of the Gladio-style groups was to discredit left-wing groups and politicians through the use of “the strategy of tension,” including false-flag terrorism. The strategy of tension is a concept for control and manipulation of public opinion through the use of fear, propaganda, agents provacateurs, terrorism, etc. The aim was to instill fear into the populace while framing communist and left-wing political opponents for terrorist atrocities.

Multiple bombings & terrorist acts were carried out in Italy, where hundreds of innocent people died by the CIA/Nato's backing and the Soviets/communists were blamed in order to manufacture public consent against the Soviets and change public opinion.

So I've proven above, it's not beyond the CIA/USA/NATO to carry out terrorism/set up operations to sabotage their own citizens, cities, etc, as a pretext to manufacture consent and sway public opinion.

9/11 is no different as the evidence is overwhelming. Look it up, if you're interested in the truth. Perhaps ISIS is no different, all I'm saying is that there's no reason to be shocked or to be surprised if it does turn out to be true.
 
if you want to talk about conspiracies you could seriously keep the scope small and talk about the BS that the US has been supplying in the last days which led to Jordanians to ask whether their pilot was still alive , or the way that ISIL killed a Japanese captive and Tokyo took the Jordanian word on the release of a suicide bomber , now that Japan could neither pay or send in Special Forces rescue team and Barack Hussein immediately declared there was a female American hostage in the hands of ISIL . Are Jordanians "capable enough" to defy to an American ban ? Minding that the Jordanian pilot was of a tribe that openly seems to support ending Jordanian participation in the ops , if not in clear support of ISIL .

and of course when one starts to talk about ISIL , the Mossad op , one should also accept the thing that one can be expected to thought of originating from the same type that benefits Mossad . It's blatantly obvious America allows ISIL to redraw the maps and stuff , will a debate of 9/11 help to hide it ? Discovery of conspiracies do not do anything , we in Turkey now hear every single thing since 2006 or 7 or 8 or 9 or 10 or 11 or 12 was a lie , and nothing actually changes ...
 
I "like" how Da'esh has apparently upped the stakes. Not content with beheading people - judging that the world at large has become accustomed to seeing severed heads - they now burn them alive.

What's the next step? Flaying?
 
I heard on the news this morning that Al Quaeda (or at least some of their supporters) has criticised IS for being un-Islamic regarding the killing of al-Kasasbeh.
 
Isn't that because execution by burning is un-Islamic?

I don't think Da'esh are at all bothered by theology. Their guiding principle seems to be a no-holds-barred all-out total war.

And, logically, I think they're right. Or if not right, at least consistent. I mean, if you're going to go to war you may just as well go all out. And if you're going to kill someone you may as well do it as brutally as possible.

Anything else is just confused, and confusing.
 
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