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[brennan]

You are:

1) Bonkers.

2) Wrong.

 

[Colonel]

You are:

1) Bonkers.

2) Wrong.

I am neither "wrong" or "bonkers". The Iraq war was completely legal. The current situation in the Middle East warrants the use of nuclear weapons to finally settle the region.

 

[Borachio]

The use of nuclear weapons seems to be the only responsible choice left for this troubled region. We need to use it first on terrorist held region after which we would need to announce to the world that should Islamic Terrorism continue we will use more nuclear weapons in an ever increasing volume across the Middle East. Eventually victory would be assured and we would be able to put the Middle East problem to bed.

I cannot accept that you honestly believe this.

At the very least, there's a really good reason why nuclear weapons haven't been used since Hiroshima and Nagasaki, you know.

 

[kramerfan86]

The worst move that could ever be done is to turn nuclear weapons into a weapon of conventional warfare. Only a fool would welcome the doomsday with such open arms.

 

[Colonel]

The worst move that could ever be done is to turn nuclear weapons into a weapon of conventional warfare. Only a fool would welcome the doomsday with such open arms.

Islamic Terrorism has to be stopped and clearly every other measure we have attempted hasn't worked. The populace in these country's support to some degree the terrorists, thus they are all legitimate targets of war. We should simply place the area under quarantine and then start a bombing campaign the likes of which have never been seen. It will end all the problems in the Middle East.

 

[Borachio]

It would also end the "power" of the US once and for all, don't you think? Realistically?

I, for one, wouldn't speak to any Americans ever again.

 

[kramerfan86]

Islamic Terrorism has to be stopped and clearly every other measure we have attempted hasn't worked. The populace in these country's support to some degree the terrorists, thus they are all legitimate targets of war. We should simply place the area under quarantine and then start a bombing campaign the likes of which have never been seen. It will end all the problems in the Middle East.

And likely lead to the eventual apocalypse when countries like Russia or China now think it is acceptable for THEM to use nuclear weaponry on what they deem legitimate military targets. Right now the countries of Earth agree nuclear weapons are a weapon of absolute last resort, changing that paradigm will lead to the end fairly quickly. A minor threat like islamic fanatics certainly is not worth that. Even including 9/11 have islamic terrorists even managed to kill 10,000 westerners in the west at this point? Not exactly an existence vs non-existence back against the wall situation that calls for doomsday devices.

 

[Tigranes]

even by the standard legal definition within the UN Charter and its various resoultions, Iraqi Freedom was entirely legal.

I love it when it is so easy to prove someone so wrong.

There were serious legal questions surrounding the launching of the war against Iraq and the Bush Doctrine of preemptive war in general. On 16 September 2004, Kofi Annan, the Secretary General of the United Nations, said of the invasion, "I have indicated it was not in conformity with the UN Charter. From our point of view, from the Charter point of view, it was illegal."

 

[Colonel]

It would also end the "power" of the US once and for all, don't you think? Realistically?

I, for one, wouldn't speak to any Americans ever again.

Your government would which realistically is all that matters. Also, our power would remain even if you took away every overseas base. Not a necessity its just nice to have.

Tigranes, I would only accept that judgement from a US court. As no determination has ever been made Iraq was legal

 

[brennan]

Islamic Terrorism has to be stopped and clearly every other measure we have attempted hasn't worked. The populace in these country's support to some degree the terrorists, thus they are all legitimate targets of war. We should simply place the area under quarantine and then start a bombing campaign the likes of which have never been seen. It will end all the problems in the Middle East.

This here is exactly the line of reasoning that leads to suicide bombing of civilian targets: the 'civilians' are complicit therefore they are a legitimate target. You really should stop and think about that.

Either that or you're trolling.

 

[kramerfan86]

I tend to think he is trolling, about ever position he has put forth is cartoonishly far right.

 

[Colonel]

This here is exactly the line of reasoning that leads to suicide bombing of civilian targets: the 'civilians' are complicit therefore they are a legitimate target. You really should stop and think about that.

Either that or you're trolling.

The US has seen time and time again that the civilians in these areas are complicit with the actions of terrorists thus they are legal combatants. We shouldn't have to waste American blood on the Middle East anymore thus in order to achieve our goals for the region we must ensure the populace complies.

 

[Borachio]

Never let it be said that you allow either facts or compassion to enter into your reasoning, will you?

 

[kramerfan86]

The US has seen time and time again that the civilians in these areas are complicit with the actions of terrorists thus they are legal combatants. We shouldn't have to waste American blood on the Middle East anymore thus in order to achieve our goals for the region we must ensure the populace complies.

How many americans has ISIS killed exactly?

 

[Borachio]

Oooh. I know the answer to this.

It's "some", isn't it? Exactly "some".

 

[Colonel]

How many americans has ISIS killed exactly?

A rather low number between 10-20 of what has shown on the News. I am not speaking solely of ISIS however, I am speaking of the larger problem, Islamic Terrorism as whole, the overwhelming instability in the region, lack of confidence in Western access to resources. All of these problems need to be corrected, and would be quite effectively by the use of the nuclear bombing campaign.

 

[kramerfan86]

A rather low number between 10-20 of what has shown on the News. I am not speaking solely of ISIS however, I am speaking of the larger problem, Islamic Terrorism as whole, the overwhelming instability in the region, lack of confidence in Western access to resources. All of these problems need to be corrected, and would be quite effectively by the use of the nuclear bombing campaign.

Oh well ok, how many americans has islamic terrorism killed in the past 10 years? If its a problem is bad enough for nuclear bombs surely its at least a few million people right?

 

[brennan]

Nuking the oilfields would make them more accessible? Oh my. This is better than any comedy on the telly.

 

[Colonel]

Nuking the oilfields would make them more accessible? Oh my. This is better than any comedy on the telly.

Angled drilling would alleviate any issue.

Oh well ok, how many americans has islamic terrorism killed in the past 10 years? If its a problem is bad enough for nuclear bombs surely its at least a few million people right?

As to the number lost in total to Islamic terrorism? There is no way to calculate that. This issue is much older then ten years.

 

[Borachio]

"Angled drilling"?

Where are you proposing they "angle drill" from? Florida?