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ISIS's Plan for World Domination: Use Victoria II

Discussion in 'Off-Topic' started by Midnight-Blue766, Jun 1, 2014.

  1. Kyriakos

    Kyriakos Alien spiral maker

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    I am not typing about the letters though (didn't know their meaning but i supposed they would have a religious theme), but of the peculiar shape of the surface they are placed inside of. :)
     
  2. Cheezy the Wiz

    Cheezy the Wiz Socialist In A Hurry

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    :mischief:

    Mebbe.
     
  3. Tahuti

    Tahuti Writing Deity

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    Hey, the only thing to fear is fear itself!
     
  4. Tolina

    Tolina trust the pillars with your s e c r e t s

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    What about insane people taking over your country and then wrecking it for the next years?
     
  5. Tahuti

    Tahuti Writing Deity

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    FDR and Churchill aren't one of them?
     
  6. Tolina

    Tolina trust the pillars with your s e c r e t s

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    You could make the case for Churchill - he was quite, well, uh, insane, discriminatory and anti-Semite.

    But far as I believe, FDR attempted to avoid the war. Sadly, the Japanese did not want the same.
     
  7. Traitorfish

    Traitorfish The Tighnahulish Kid

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    I'm not sure how many points you get for attempting to avoid war when your first reaction to its outbreak is setting up concentration camps.
     
  8. Tolina

    Tolina trust the pillars with your s e c r e t s

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    Oh well. Concentration camps, as terrible and tasteless as it might sound, were all the rage during the 40s. Afterwards, slightly less.
     
  9. Tahuti

    Tahuti Writing Deity

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    I got scared of that tawk about boncentration bamps.

    Ah well, vote National Bozialist! Mr. Hilter for PM!
     
  10. classical_hero

    classical_hero In whom I trust

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    Are they their primary target? No they weren't but groups like ISIS are attacking civilians when they didn't need to. You case of moral equivalence is rather shocking, and this goes for TF also. Unfortunately civilians die in war due to collateral damage, but they are not the prime target, but the fault for their deaths should be on those that put them in danger.
     
  11. Traitorfish

    Traitorfish The Tighnahulish Kid

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    See? "Killing civilians is unfortunate when we do it, actively evil when they do it."
     
  12. Borachio

    Borachio Way past lunacy

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    I suggest you read up on Churchill and Bomber Harris, before stating categorically that they didn't deliberately target civilians, because.... you know... they did.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sir_Arthur_Harris,_1st_Baronet#Second_World_War

    I see no reason to think the Americans didn't continue with this strategy when they got involved in the bombing campaign against Germany.
     
  13. Traitorfish

    Traitorfish The Tighnahulish Kid

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    They utilised similar tactics in Japan, so they clearly had no moral objections to it.
     
  14. Kyriakos

    Kyriakos Alien spiral maker

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    Nor did they have moral objections to granting immunity to the Japanese human-experiment groups (eg unit 731) as long as the latter would supply them with info on their work (maybe even run some new experiments..).
     
  15. Old Hippy

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    unfortunatly they were the prime target...
    there is a reason it took 50 odd years to give medals to the bomber command people

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/history/worldwars/wwtwo/area_bombing_01.shtml
     
  16. apotheoser

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    100% true. The Russian ultra-nationalists is extremely strong there, too. The Ukraine/Crimea thread is absolutely mindblowing.
     
  17. FriendlyFire

    FriendlyFire Codex WMDicanious

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    Ironically 70,000 french civilians died to Allied bombing in France but it was deemed strategically necessary to paralyses the German logistics.

    I found it funny that Bomber command was publicly castrated from bombing Dresden which they did so at the Russians request and killed an estimated 25,000 Germans.
     
  18. Old Hippy

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    it just annoys me that we always have to be saints in white hats, when compared to the bad guys, I think it's a dangerous assumption to make ... we can do nothing wrong, just make the odd regretable mistake
     
  19. Borachio

    Borachio Way past lunacy

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    Who's this we? Do you personally identify with Bomber Command for some reason or other?
     
  20. Old Hippy

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    not particularly, but being a Londoner, the family has some association with the blitz,
    the we, well I do personally identify with the western democratic alliances, NATO, Anzus etc, and sentiments like this "Unfortunately civilians die in war due to collateral damage, but they are not the prime target" seems like a cop out, considering I am part of the process that leads to collateral damage, it's worth remembering that we do not always wear the white hat,
     

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