It's Not a Hard Choice - It's a Medical Condition

[JollyRoger]

You see, Big Billo has a medical condition that impairs Little Billo when Big Billo attempts to have phone sex with his producers. If he has to pay for his drugs or your drugs, he won't be able to buy you dinner. Maybe he should just dine at the Y.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBm3FMDM8aE

The video is basically O' Reilly atacking an anti-McCain ad where McCain is stumbling with answering whether he agrees that insurance plans should cover viagra, but not birth control. Billo goes off on viagra being a medical condition while birth control is a choice.

 

[Aegis]

I don't get it. Impotence is a medical condition.

I do disagree with O'Reilly, though; birth control should be covered.

 

[JohnRM]

There are quite a few people who have medical conditions where pregnancy presents them with the choice of following through with it, and probably dying giving birth, and aborting the child. My Aunt is one of these individuals. She cannot get pregnant, because her heart cannot handle it. Birth control ought to be covered for her.

 

[JollyRoger]

I don't get it. Impotence is a medical condition.

Whether to medically induce an erection or whether to enage in erection-based activities is a choice, however.

 

[Aegis]

Whether to medically induce an erection or whether to enage in erection-based activities is a choice, however.

Whether to medically induce proper vision or whether to engage in reading-based activities is a choice, however.

Just because it's a choice does not mean it should not be covered.

 

[Holycannoli]

:45 to 1:00 is all you need to know. Medical condition vs choice.

The rest of that video reminds me of Keith Olberman and so I stopped watching it before that guy pissed me off too much.

And John HSOG has a good point: Perhaps there should be individual cases where birth control is covered? The only problem with that is there's other birth control methods readily available to use, like condoms and diaphragms. You don't need prescriptions for birth control, and so I can easily see the government saying birth control will not be covered.

EDIT: Now that I think about it, can't birth control be covered for medical reasons like menstrual problems? I know it can and is prescribed for it, but is it covered by insurance that way? If not, I can definitely see why it's not: It would cost insurance companies way too much. It's all about the dollar...that's why medical condition vs choice is all you need to know.

 

[JollyRoger]

Now that I think about it, can't birth control be covered for medical reasons like menstrual problems? I know it can and is prescribed for it, but is it covered by insurance that way? If not, I can definitely see why it's not: It would cost insurance companies way too much. It's all about the dollar...that's why medical condition vs choice is all you need to know.

As for Viagra, how much are insurance companies forking out for purely recreational purposes? If you want an erection, pay up for the drugs yourself.

 

[Perfection]

Since when were erections purely for recreational purposes?

 

[JollyRoger]

Wel, they might have religious purposes.

 

[Narz]

Since when were erections purely for recreational purposes?

Um, 99.99% of the time or so.

 

[JollyRoger]

I'll concede that the Haggard and Craig crowd may need to be drugged up for breeding purposes.

 

[Perfection]

Um, 99.99% of the time or so.

1/10000? I doubt it! While, a large percentage of sex certainly is purely reacreational, a some isn't.

Also, erections are good for you.

 

[Narz]

1/10000? I doubt it! While, a large percentage of sex certainly is purely reacreational, a some isn't.

Yeah, I'd estimate about 1 out of 10,000 erections is used procreationally. The rest are just for fun.

Also, erections are good for you.

Not just for me.

 

[downtown]

Yeah, I'd estimate about 1 out of 10,000 erections is used procreationally. The rest are just for fun.

Or random! Don't forget random boners!

 

[FriendlyFire]

I don't get it. Impotence is a medical condition.

Sugreon General advises if errection last more then 5 hours to seek immediate medical help ! (Erupted blood vessels are likely to be the cause and that will be the last erection you will ever have)

 

[Mirc]

Or random! Don't forget random boners!

Exactly, sometimes there is absolutely no explanation for them, like for example in the morning.

 

[Ecofarm]

Exactly, sometimes there is absolutely no explanation for them, like for example in the morning.

Morning glory is the result of needing to piss. That's one way for your body to keep from pissing your bed (or having to wake to go to the restroom).

I tell women: "I don't use piss hard-ons, you're gonna have to wait till after my morning routine". Any guy who uses piss hard-ons is a scoundral.

One of the few Irving books I could not read beyond a few pages was about a most depressing poor soul in the days before viagra "The Water Method Man".

 

[Mirc]

Did I say I'm using them?

(and no, I in particular don't find anything bad in using them. They are quite useful when you get to a certain age, though. I can imagine that for a 70-year old it can be one of the few moments when he's experiencing his glory days again)

 

[Ecofarm]

Did I say I'm using them?

(and no, I in particular don't find anything bad in using them. They are quite useful when you get to a certain age, though. I can imagine that for a 70-year old it can be one of the few moments when he's experiencing his glory days again)

I didn't mean you. I was just explaining the phenom and giving my opinion on it. Sorry I wasn't more clear on that.

 

[Holycannoli]

As for Viagra, how much are insurance companies forking out for purely recreational purposes? If you want an erection, pay up for the drugs yourself.

I do understand that, but it is a medical condition it's treating. That's why it's covered. I don't exactly agree with it but according to whatever those complicated laws are, since it's a condition it's eligible.

That's why I'm wondering about birth control pills for medical conditions? I don't have the time to research it now; I shouldn't even be here I'm gonna be late for work Too bad it's my last week there...next week I am officially a correction officer, years in the making and finally here.