jalapeno_dude
AKA Panda Judo Eel
Welcome Stick Figure! Don't send orders this turn--I'll write an introductory blurb in the update about your nation.
JalNES I: Quick and Easy
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Luckymoose
The World is Mine
Orders El Sente!
alex994
Hail Divine Emperor!
Orders will be sent in 2 hours. I'll respond to your request(yes, I'm bribing the mod 
Fear Rome with the Favor of MOD!) soon 
Fear Rome with the Favor of MOD!) soon 
~Darkening~
Weep, Mother.
I'm assuming peace is concluded.
Longest domestic orders sent.
Longest domestic orders sent.
LittleBoots
The Bloody Banner
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Orders tonight. The peace is fairly solid, as it would be pretty difficult for any of the belligerents to engage in anything stronger than a proxy war... 
TerrisH
Mischief?
JD, If I have contact with Stick this turn, Give him Iron Age Tech for free.
jalapeno_dude
AKA Panda Judo Eel
Got it. But he was already going to get iron, given that the nation was founded by Atyrians...TerrisH said:
TerrisH
Mischief?
ah, I see. hmm...
Orders soon. Here's a story for mollification...
The Blues, the Greens, and Constantine: A Rather Colloquial Interpretation
...Anyway, so as the republic expanded and they founded the city of Hadrianopolis in 581, but most people just called it 'Adrianople'. The head founder was named – surprise surprise – Hadrian. He was descended from a family that moved to the Republic from Italy in the last century. Actually, that was indicative of a trend during that time – increasing emigration from Rome, mainly due to no small amount of ethnic strife. The Byzantines began to split into two camps, sort of de facto political parties. There were two of them, they always competed for the consulship – in fact, almost all of the time there was one consul from each, and they always fought. There's the Blues, the party of the landowners. They were the ones who normally had more power than anyone else, especially political power. The challengers were the Greens, who were the emerging merchant class. They got more powerful with the founding of a new trade city – Adrianople – and the increased trade through the Bosphorus and Hellespont with the continued growth of Atyria, possibly the most boring and therefore stable country in the world. Their growth and subsequent power increase was also partly fueled by the influx of Roman merchants during the Crisis of the Sixth Century. Hadrian himself was a Green, and he populated Adrianople with a lot of them. Constantinople was always a heavy-trade city but Adrianople might not have been if not for that. Whenever the Blues gained power in Constantinople, it was offset by the Greens' haven in Adrianople. Without that, the landed gentry probably would have crushed the merchant class; with it, it spawned a continuing series of conflicts that threatened to tear the country apart.
A signal event occurred here in 541, when a group of merchants was set upon by thugs sent by one of the major landowners, Cleomenes. The merchants got themselves mauled – here's some statuary from about that time showing them – and they stumbled down the Mese, calling for help. Eventually, two of them died from their wounds on the spot and the rest charged into the senate house, calling for revenge. Most of the remaining crowd in the senate house was of Green persuasion, since the Blues were all off making alibis and orchestrating the hit. They called a vote and passed a law limiting the size of private bodyguard militias, to try to cut down on the Blue-incited violence.
Naturally, this only made things a bit worse. The Blues were pretty pissed at being outmaneuvered and annoyed that their scare tactics weren't working on the Greens. They turned to another means of grabbing political power: they decided to win the support of the masses in the Hippodrome. Normally Blues and Greens raced chariots against each other, partially to see who the crowd cheered for. If they liked the Blues, then they cheered the Blue chariots on, and if they liked the Greens, they obviously didn't keep cheering for the Blues. Things had gotten so that people were influenced by the winners, so you cheered for whoever won, instead of to support a side. Political opinion was being altered by entertainment, not the other way around. Of course, with their superior resources, the Blues could field way better chariot teams than the Greens. Hippodrome races started becoming rather one-sided. Eventually, the Greens decided to fight back. In 517 they got agitators going in the crowd and started booing the consuls' teams, both of which were Blue. In response, the Constantinopolitan Guard was called out to the Hippodrome and put down the rioters with blood and sword. Over ten thousand spectators were slaughtered then. More riots broke out, and the Blues couldn't control them all. Mobs began regularly roaming the streets, and if only for sheer protection a bipartisan agreement was made to reintroduce bodyguards, which only added to the violence. The Byzantines were basically tearing themselves apart.
Into this mess stepped Flavius Constantine, a descendant of the city's founder, but also a Roman. His political fortunes rose rapidly in the early 400s, but he chose not to align himself with either party, which appealed to many of the voting masses, who either saw an iconoclast - not in the literal sense, of course - or a man who could not get bogged down in petty politics. Many Blues broke away from their party, which they believed was becoming increasingly violent; Greens decided to gain safety by adhering not to the party, but the man, and so hoping to escape Blue thug squads. Constantine was elected consul along with the Blue Nicetas in 483, but began to fight with his fellow consul over how to end the constant turmoil and rioting. Nicetas, a typical Blue, favored sending in his hired thugs, and Constantine wanted to disperse them peacefully, because he didn't believe that Byzantine people should be treated so roughly, and...well, everyone's got an ulterior motive. He and Nicetas began to quarrel, and almost no laws were passed because the two had a nearly equal number of adherents, and voting always stayed tied. Laws were sometimes opposed on the principle of opposing the enemy instead of a genuine disagreement with the policy expressed therein.
Eventually, after a few years of tumult and turmoil, still between the followers of Nicetas of the Blues and Constantine, who was allied with everyone else, the shoosting started. In 478, Nicetas orchestrated a huge raid on Adrianople, where many of Constantine's adherents lived and worked. Nearly a hundred Byzantine civilians were killed by the Blue mercs, who got away scot free. After ignoring opposition demands to give up the murderers, Nicetas finally seized dictatorial power and tried to have Constantine executed. Constantine fled to Adrianople, which he fortified. Almost all of the army moved to his side, but for the Constantinopolitan Guard which stayed loyal to Nicetas. Constantine's son, Constans, took over the navy, and after a long siege the two of them broke into Constantinople and slaughtered all of the Blues, whose land was absorbed into Constantine's holdings. With all of this land, he now controlled virtually all of the Republic anyway. The defunct Senate, echoing the general sentiment that democracy had virtually destroyed the Republic, declared Constantine first a dictator-for-life, then a hereditary emperor. The Republic was dead...long live the Republic.
The Blues, the Greens, and Constantine: A Rather Colloquial Interpretation
...Anyway, so as the republic expanded and they founded the city of Hadrianopolis in 581, but most people just called it 'Adrianople'. The head founder was named – surprise surprise – Hadrian. He was descended from a family that moved to the Republic from Italy in the last century. Actually, that was indicative of a trend during that time – increasing emigration from Rome, mainly due to no small amount of ethnic strife. The Byzantines began to split into two camps, sort of de facto political parties. There were two of them, they always competed for the consulship – in fact, almost all of the time there was one consul from each, and they always fought. There's the Blues, the party of the landowners. They were the ones who normally had more power than anyone else, especially political power. The challengers were the Greens, who were the emerging merchant class. They got more powerful with the founding of a new trade city – Adrianople – and the increased trade through the Bosphorus and Hellespont with the continued growth of Atyria, possibly the most boring and therefore stable country in the world. Their growth and subsequent power increase was also partly fueled by the influx of Roman merchants during the Crisis of the Sixth Century. Hadrian himself was a Green, and he populated Adrianople with a lot of them. Constantinople was always a heavy-trade city but Adrianople might not have been if not for that. Whenever the Blues gained power in Constantinople, it was offset by the Greens' haven in Adrianople. Without that, the landed gentry probably would have crushed the merchant class; with it, it spawned a continuing series of conflicts that threatened to tear the country apart.
A signal event occurred here in 541, when a group of merchants was set upon by thugs sent by one of the major landowners, Cleomenes. The merchants got themselves mauled – here's some statuary from about that time showing them – and they stumbled down the Mese, calling for help. Eventually, two of them died from their wounds on the spot and the rest charged into the senate house, calling for revenge. Most of the remaining crowd in the senate house was of Green persuasion, since the Blues were all off making alibis and orchestrating the hit. They called a vote and passed a law limiting the size of private bodyguard militias, to try to cut down on the Blue-incited violence.
Naturally, this only made things a bit worse. The Blues were pretty pissed at being outmaneuvered and annoyed that their scare tactics weren't working on the Greens. They turned to another means of grabbing political power: they decided to win the support of the masses in the Hippodrome. Normally Blues and Greens raced chariots against each other, partially to see who the crowd cheered for. If they liked the Blues, then they cheered the Blue chariots on, and if they liked the Greens, they obviously didn't keep cheering for the Blues. Things had gotten so that people were influenced by the winners, so you cheered for whoever won, instead of to support a side. Political opinion was being altered by entertainment, not the other way around. Of course, with their superior resources, the Blues could field way better chariot teams than the Greens. Hippodrome races started becoming rather one-sided. Eventually, the Greens decided to fight back. In 517 they got agitators going in the crowd and started booing the consuls' teams, both of which were Blue. In response, the Constantinopolitan Guard was called out to the Hippodrome and put down the rioters with blood and sword. Over ten thousand spectators were slaughtered then. More riots broke out, and the Blues couldn't control them all. Mobs began regularly roaming the streets, and if only for sheer protection a bipartisan agreement was made to reintroduce bodyguards, which only added to the violence. The Byzantines were basically tearing themselves apart.
Into this mess stepped Flavius Constantine, a descendant of the city's founder, but also a Roman. His political fortunes rose rapidly in the early 400s, but he chose not to align himself with either party, which appealed to many of the voting masses, who either saw an iconoclast - not in the literal sense, of course - or a man who could not get bogged down in petty politics. Many Blues broke away from their party, which they believed was becoming increasingly violent; Greens decided to gain safety by adhering not to the party, but the man, and so hoping to escape Blue thug squads. Constantine was elected consul along with the Blue Nicetas in 483, but began to fight with his fellow consul over how to end the constant turmoil and rioting. Nicetas, a typical Blue, favored sending in his hired thugs, and Constantine wanted to disperse them peacefully, because he didn't believe that Byzantine people should be treated so roughly, and...well, everyone's got an ulterior motive. He and Nicetas began to quarrel, and almost no laws were passed because the two had a nearly equal number of adherents, and voting always stayed tied. Laws were sometimes opposed on the principle of opposing the enemy instead of a genuine disagreement with the policy expressed therein.
Eventually, after a few years of tumult and turmoil, still between the followers of Nicetas of the Blues and Constantine, who was allied with everyone else, the shoosting started. In 478, Nicetas orchestrated a huge raid on Adrianople, where many of Constantine's adherents lived and worked. Nearly a hundred Byzantine civilians were killed by the Blue mercs, who got away scot free. After ignoring opposition demands to give up the murderers, Nicetas finally seized dictatorial power and tried to have Constantine executed. Constantine fled to Adrianople, which he fortified. Almost all of the army moved to his side, but for the Constantinopolitan Guard which stayed loyal to Nicetas. Constantine's son, Constans, took over the navy, and after a long siege the two of them broke into Constantinople and slaughtered all of the Blues, whose land was absorbed into Constantine's holdings. With all of this land, he now controlled virtually all of the Republic anyway. The defunct Senate, echoing the general sentiment that democracy had virtually destroyed the Republic, declared Constantine first a dictator-for-life, then a hereditary emperor. The Republic was dead...long live the Republic.
alex994
Hail Divine Emperor!
OOC: Oh great, you just stole some of my future leaders you bloody Rome lover I also denounce your evil conspiracies at luring away Rome's merchants. 
I mean, the crisis was only in Rome, the City Rome. Everywhere else was quite calm....
Orders to be sent soon.
I also denounce your evil conspiracies at luring away Rome's merchants. I mean, the crisis was only in Rome, the City Rome. Everywhere else was quite calm....Orders to be sent soon.
North King
blech
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I'm afraid sending orders tonight is, for practical purposes, impossible.
Sickness and RL complications.
Sickness and RL complications.
alex994
Hail Divine Emperor!
Orders sent.
Don't worry north king, I'm sure jalapeno will have fun writing about the diplomacy that took place between Eirehann, Brittania and Rome (and to a lesser extent Carthage) or the war that will happen if some nations decides to go against it
Don't worry north king, I'm sure jalapeno will have fun writing about the diplomacy that took place between Eirehann, Brittania and Rome (and to a lesser extent Carthage) or the war that will happen if some nations decides to go against it
North King
blech
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Heh. I don't even get it.
Like I said, jal, I really, honestly, cannot get orders in tonight. I would try... but I simply cannot. If you'll still allow them tomorrow, when I'll probably be rather better, then that's good. But if not... oh well.
Like I said, jal, I really, honestly, cannot get orders in tonight. I would try... but I simply cannot. If you'll still allow them tomorrow, when I'll probably be rather better, then that's good. But if not... oh well.
jalapeno_dude
AKA Panda Judo Eel
That's fine. Please try to get them in today, however.North King said:
13/16 orders in. I'd still like orders from NK, adherence, and human-slaughter.
alex994
Hail Divine Emperor!
Didn't human-slaughter quit? Something about school and etc a LONG time ago... 
jalapeno_dude
AKA Panda Judo Eel
So he did. On September 12th.alex994 said:Didn't human-slaughter quit? Something about school and etc a LONG time ago...
North King
blech
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I will get orders in tonight.
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