JesusOnEez
Emperor
I thought Cosmic was only away until the 2nd. Moving house is always a nightmare though...we'll give him another 24hrs to check in, else vra can take it.
JOE-05 - The Crusades
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JesusOnEez
Emperor
Hmmm...it seems me, mice and Rince are the only people keeping tabs here. Haven't heard from vra for a while. Cosmic must be busy with his move (maybe he hasn't got internet hooked up at his new place?)
Well...vra is up...
ROOSTER
Cosmichail - Black Knight - MIA
Vra379971 - UP
Jesusoneez - King Arthur - On Deck
Mice - Hugh de Payen
Rince - Phillippe de Plaissis
Well...vra is up...
ROOSTER
Cosmichail - Black Knight - MIA
Vra379971 - UP
Jesusoneez - King Arthur - On Deck
Mice - Hugh de Payen
Rince - Phillippe de Plaissis
I'll skip the storytelling till later...
The invasion goes well, and we captured Bursa.
Now, I have a proposition.
I want to revolt (at least temporarily at the least) to Free Speech, Universal Sufferage and Emancipation.
As useful as Slavery is, we don't need it right now, and atm, the 100% growth rate for cottages will benefit us more, as many will become towns in the next 25 turns.
We can ditch Bureaucracy as the +2 from Town will be much more useful, and, we can revolt to US as well as we're not using many specialists.
Thoughts?
The invasion goes well, and we captured Bursa.
Now, I have a proposition.
I want to revolt (at least temporarily at the least) to Free Speech, Universal Sufferage and Emancipation.
As useful as Slavery is, we don't need it right now, and atm, the 100% growth rate for cottages will benefit us more, as many will become towns in the next 25 turns.
We can ditch Bureaucracy as the +2 from Town will be much more useful, and, we can revolt to US as well as we're not using many specialists.
Thoughts?
Do you think Peter will attack if he drops to cautious, which he will if we lose Beauracracy?
BTW, you took Bursa? Nice, but is it Muslim?
JesusOnEez
Emperor
Great. We now have somewhere for our troops to heal up when needed. Looking forward to the report...I thought we were going to get slaughtered.
JesusOnEez
Emperor
You've probably already done it now, but whip a unit out of every city the turn before we change to Emancipation. The unhappy from the whip will be buried in the happy gained from Emancipation.
Also, I may need a skip after vra as I had a "computer accident" over the weekend and I need a couple of days to get it up to speed...OK if I swap with you mice?
Also, I may need a skip after vra as I had a "computer accident" over the weekend and I need a couple of days to get it up to speed...OK if I swap with you mice?
You bet. I would like to get back to this game. Strange about Cosmichail, but I think you're right, connection problems at the new place probably
JesusOnEez
Emperor
vra, you grabbed this on the 11th, it's now the 15th. What gives? If you can't report, at least post the save up so we can get moving on it.
Ye forgets about the part where I came to ask for advice...anyway...*sigh*
This went poorly.
Here are the pics and the save, the report will be up later.
The gist is that we got screwed, Liz is bigger, Mehmed is smaller, and I have NO CLUE how he can afford that army.
Edit: Work Emergency - Save here: http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/25465/Alexius_I_AD-1812.CivWarlordsSave
This went poorly.
Here are the pics and the save, the report will be up later.
The gist is that we got screwed, Liz is bigger, Mehmed is smaller, and I have NO CLUE how he can afford that army.
Edit: Work Emergency - Save here: http://forums.civfanatics.com/uploads/25465/Alexius_I_AD-1812.CivWarlordsSave
So , where from here ? We are at peace. tech next after artillery , maybe electricity to tanks, or communism? Build machine guns for homeland defense and a few infantry can take out that cavalry stack on our land.
The problem is getting a beachead on the other continent. The settler is there now, and I acknowledge that it was an error not sending one in the first stack.
Also we should have a missionary there or it will go muslim.
JoE if your not able to play i can. It will just be some rebuilding turns, but we need ideas on tech direction.
The problem is getting a beachead on the other continent. The settler is there now, and I acknowledge that it was an error not sending one in the first stack.
Also we should have a missionary there or it will go muslim.
JoE if your not able to play i can. It will just be some rebuilding turns, but we need ideas on tech direction.
JesusOnEez
Emperor
The games coming to the crunch...concentrate on military techs only. Remember our win conditions. If I was playing single player, I'd probably go all out for Manhatten Project, build a shedload of nukes and carpet bomb Mehmed's major cities before swooping in with an SoD for cleanup duties.
Generally though, concentrate on military techs only...we need to put the beat down on Mehmed. Although he's out-teched us, he hasn't got that many cities...bombard, suicide, flatten.
Other than nukes, definately stick with Artillery next. As long as you have a tonne of artillery, you can take any city down a peg or two with outdated units. Then tanks or beeline to Mech Infantry.
I'm assuming the Emancipation trick didn't get used...
I'm just hoping Mehmed doesn't become a vassal to Peter, or moreso, Fred. I don't think Fred will be a problem as he's our religion, and he won't vassal Mehmed because of distance. If Peter vassals Mehmed though, we'd be in trouble.
Generally though, concentrate on military techs only...we need to put the beat down on Mehmed. Although he's out-teched us, he hasn't got that many cities...bombard, suicide, flatten.
Other than nukes, definately stick with Artillery next. As long as you have a tonne of artillery, you can take any city down a peg or two with outdated units. Then tanks or beeline to Mech Infantry.
I'm assuming the Emancipation trick didn't get used...
I'm just hoping Mehmed doesn't become a vassal to Peter, or moreso, Fred. I don't think Fred will be a problem as he's our religion, and he won't vassal Mehmed because of distance. If Peter vassals Mehmed though, we'd be in trouble.
Turn 422
Builds, machine gun, infantry, factories finishing
At the start, there had been a civics change so had to wait 3 turns to go to Nationhood for drafting.Then 2 turns anarchy. After that 1 infantry each turn form now on I recommend.
Turn 423
More builds, machine gun ,infantry, factories
Turn 424
Agreed to a defensive pact with Freddy. This made Peter mad.
Civics Change: Peterf rom 'Universal Suffrage' to 'Police State'
Civics Change: Peter from 'Organized Religion' to 'Theocracy'
Turn 425]
waiting....
Turn 426
Attitude Change: Peter towards Alexius I, from 'Cautious' to 'Annoyed'
Turn 427
Artillary in, next tech to Industrialism via Elecricity
Turn 428
Civics Change: 'Free Speech' to 'Nationhood'
Get the draft going in Arpinium.
Turn 429
more military builds. I didn't start ironworks because we need infantry and arty now.
Turn 430
Peter declares war on Elizabeth .Phew, not us.
Turn 431
Great Engineer born in Pisae
Burned him to finish industrialism, but he only shaved 2 turns !
Turn 432
Got electricity off of Freddy for artillary.
Industrialism in 8 turns.
I marked Edirne as a possible target. Good as any. It is on a hill so easy to defend ( raze re-settle), and easy to reinforce from the sea. Possibly upgrade to some destroyers?
Just remembered the missionary. We dont need it because of Theocracy, but it would be good to start spreading the faith on that continent.
at least with Peter in Theocracy he wont take on any more Islam.
Builds, machine gun, infantry, factories finishing
At the start, there had been a civics change so had to wait 3 turns to go to Nationhood for drafting.Then 2 turns anarchy. After that 1 infantry each turn form now on I recommend.
Turn 423
More builds, machine gun ,infantry, factories
Turn 424
Agreed to a defensive pact with Freddy. This made Peter mad.
Civics Change: Peterf rom 'Universal Suffrage' to 'Police State'
Civics Change: Peter from 'Organized Religion' to 'Theocracy'
Turn 425]
waiting....
Turn 426
Attitude Change: Peter towards Alexius I, from 'Cautious' to 'Annoyed'
Turn 427
Artillary in, next tech to Industrialism via Elecricity
Turn 428
Civics Change: 'Free Speech' to 'Nationhood'
Get the draft going in Arpinium.
Turn 429
more military builds. I didn't start ironworks because we need infantry and arty now.
Turn 430
Peter declares war on Elizabeth .Phew, not us.
Turn 431
Great Engineer born in Pisae
Burned him to finish industrialism, but he only shaved 2 turns !
Turn 432
Got electricity off of Freddy for artillary.
Industrialism in 8 turns.
I marked Edirne as a possible target. Good as any. It is on a hill so easy to defend ( raze re-settle), and easy to reinforce from the sea. Possibly upgrade to some destroyers?
Just remembered the missionary. We dont need it because of Theocracy, but it would be good to start spreading the faith on that continent.
at least with Peter in Theocracy he wont take on any more Islam.
JesusOnEez
Emperor
If Peter's in Theocracy, that pretty much leaves us with converting England. It's actually good for us that England and Russia are warring...hopefully we can take them when they're weak after finishing Mehmed off...
...hopes.
As soon as we war with Mehmed again, the defensive pact with Freddy will be nullified won't it?
(This is a got it by the way).
...hopes.
As soon as we war with Mehmed again, the defensive pact with Freddy will be nullified won't it?
(This is a got it by the way).
Rince
King
Yes, it is automatically canceled if either of the partners declares war on third party.
Rince
ROOSTER
Cosmichail - Black Knight - MIA
Vra379971
Mice - Hugh de Payen - just played
Jesusoneez - King Arthur - UP
Rince - Phillippe de Plaissis - on deck
