July Patch - Upcoming Changelog Discussion Thread

[Revolutionist_8]

Of course it does. A unit that can paradrop in and soak 4 hits, or deal 20 damage to a city....is stronger than a unit that can paradrop and only soak 2 hits, or deal 10 damage to a city.

Now that is an extreme example of course, but the point is that CS does matter. I think its worth testing because melee units did get stronger in general, so we want to see how the paratrooper stands in this new world of stronger melee/weaker ranged. It might be fine with its new strength, it might be a bit too strong, we will see.

I 100% agree with you, you're absolutely right

But the argument was that a City nuked to 0 hp (as how it should be) can be taken by literally any unit, regardless of CS.

 

[pineappledan]

I honestly don’t get why XCom’s power is so high in the first place.
Paratrooper is 40/42CS and comes 1 tech after Infantry (55/60 CS), so about 70% as strong.
XCOM is 70/75CS and comes 2 techs after mech infantry (70/75CS). It’s pretty crazy that XCOMS have the same power as the melee line’s final unit when it can teleport everywhere. They should be 55CS, 20 points below mech infantry

 

[Stalker0]

It’s pretty crazy that XCOMS have the same power as the melee line’s final unit when it can teleport everywhere.

Aren't you forgetting....GIANT DEATH ROBOT!!!!

But in seriousness, it probably doesn't need to be that high.

 

[pineappledan]

But GDRs take uranium, and they are arguably less useful than teleporting XCOMS

 

[azum4roll]

Special forces exist though, between Paratrooper and XCOM.

 

[Bhawb]

Special forces exist as a contemporary to Mechanized Infantry. Only XCOM is allowed to drop wherever they want without the CS malus for being recon instead of normal infantry. They're completely broken, they just get ignored because most games are over before they matter.

 

[tu_79]

Special forces exist as a contemporary to Mechanized Infantry. Only XCOM is allowed to drop wherever they want without the CS malus for being recon instead of normal infantry. They're completely broken, they just get ignored because most games are over before they matter.

I think they are so overpowered for a reason: this way late warmongers can make a dent. Maybe enough for stopping the cultural or the diplomatic leader.