KotOR Mafia - game thread

[Zack]

Wow. Zack. Wow.

Sic him, boys.

 

[choxorn]

MUST OBEY ZACK

Unvote, Vote: Verarde

 

[spaceman98]

Yes, I mixed Celt and Black Knigh up. However, BKs claim is blatently fake. If there was a reviver, why would dead people be used as replacements. Moreover, he has excuses for being unable to do anything usefull with his ability on anyone useful. Finally, if he is a reviver, it is very likely that he brings people back as scum, or neutrals, or cult zombies, not townies.

Me? I am a neutral with a survival victory condition, nothing more.

 

[Takhisis]

Hey, no dogs allowed.

 

[NinjaCow64]

@TBK: Revive Jarrema, he would be a better choice than MartinLuther. Especially since ML said he would be away for most of August.

Yes, I mixed Celt and Black Knigh up. However, BKs claim is blatently fake. If there was a reviver, why would dead people be used as replacements. Moreover, he has excuses for being unable to do anything usefull with his ability on anyone useful. Finally, if he is a reviver, it is very likely that he brings people back as scum, or neutrals, or cult zombies, not townies.

Me? I am a neutral with a survival victory condition, nothing more.

I don't actually think that you are that scummy, I just don't want TBK to get killed, because if he is telling the truth, then we need him. But hey, survivors aren't a BAD lynch so its a win/win situation.

 

[Backwards Logic]

Yes, I mixed Celt and Black Knigh up. However, BKs claim is blatently fake.

Definitely possible.

If there was a reviver, why would dead people be used as replacements.

Probably because there aren't that many non-already-playing people lined up to replace them. Inactives suck. Still though, I can quasy see your point, though I'm certain Tak and Arakhor covered this possibility by not telling them anything about the game after they were initially dead. I don't like it either, but see my earlier point: inactives suck.

Moreover, he has excuses for being unable to do anything usefull with his ability on anyone useful.

I actually buy his reasons. Can't revive a machine for obvious reasons, and it's hard to revive nothing if there's nothing physical to revive. If he's making all of this up, kudos to covering the bases and making it look real.

Finally, if he is a reviver, it is very likely that he brings people back as scum, or neutrals, or cult zombies, not townies.

You have no way of knowing this, and this sentence does have quite a bit of conjecture trying to masquerade as fact. Sure it could, but is it very likely? It's fifty-fifty imo without knowing anything about the role.

Me? I am a neutral with a survival victory condition, nothing more.

Don't stop there. Please, do go on.

All things considered I'm with Verarde on this: either TBK is insanely good with a bacta tank, or he's an exceptionally powerful force user on par with Sidious (teased Anakin with saving Padme) or Sion, who could keep himself from dying and revived himself numerous times in battle. Hence my query from earlier. Not saying he is mind you, but as far as a revival connection goes it's the best I can come up with which isn't the greatest. That said, light-siders aren't going to have this ability.

I'm throwing my vote in this direction instead for this post.

I agree tbk should use his ability it could be quite usefull

No kidding. Bandwagon vote earlier with sketchy reasoning (spaceman) plus 'let-me-look-townie-by-making-obvious-townie-remark' = needs a much closer look.

vote: dcmort93

 

[Earthling]

The way I see it mafia had the potential to get out 5, 6 nightkill attempts a night. It's not at all inherently unreasonable for the town to have a revive. The Black Knigh could have made this up to buy time, sure that's a possibility but we'll see if the ability works soon; I consider the revive working in a twisted way to be rather less likely. As far as I can tell I think it would slide reasonably well in the setting for some medical technology or Force reason.

spaceman should easily be able to give a more complete claim, in private at least. See Mergle to start if not others you feel you can trust. Either of the neutrals easily remain a default choice on this lynch when we don't have claims, confessions, scans etc... on anyone else. Though I'll stay on Red_Spy now.

 

[DaveShack]

The spaceman vote had the desired result (more explanation) so unvote.

Now, what to believe? We have TBK claiming a rather implausible, though potentially useful role. It's just the kind of role claim where you scratch your head, but think if it's real then we'd be fools to waste it. A reviver doesn't seem to be canon, but we do have the host stating right up front that there could be non-canon things in the game. At best, it's a fairly innocuous pro-town role, which will act like increasing the number of town players by one. At worst, it's a sith ability and the revived player goes to the dark side. In the middle ground, it's a lie or a cover role. Can we afford the risk?

Looking at Verarde, I just nailed him in another game, posthumously, for a similar record. The difference being that he's actually voting here, where in the other game he was saying essentially nothing. This merits monitoring but might not rise to the level where it needs immediate action.

I'm not sure what the case on Red_Spy is supposed to be. I'm amenable to putting my vote there, but would prefer to see more case first.

 

[Askthepizzaguy]

Vote: Verarde.

Willing to lynch any of the leaders, except Buddhafish because of what he is.

 

[NinjaCow64]

Unvote; Vote: Verarde so that we don't lynch TBK, as that would be foolish IMO. We can't let an opportunity like this pass. We can lynch him tomorrow to determine whether the person he saves is town or not, if needs be.

 

[Askthepizzaguy]

What's the status on the bounty situation? Do we have a consensus on a second lynchee, and therefore, a bounty target?

 

[edse]

Orders are sent, Jarrema will be revieved.

 

[NinjaCow64]

What's the status on the bounty situation? Do we have a consensus on a second lynchee, and therefore, a bounty target?

Nope.avi

But I would hope to collaborate with you about this. Who do YOU think should be targeted?

 

[atheotes]

I find it odd that Takhisis and Arakhor would use the dead as replacements if there was a player with a ressurection ability, but very well.

Unvote, Vote: Buddhafish

I too thought the same. But seeing Arakhor's post made me think it is possible he is telling the truth about revival. But we wont know the effects of the revival. After he revives Jarema. then we can have Merkel or someone scan Jarema's alignment.

I must say it seems like a rare force power which could be used by only the most powerful, if it is indeed a force power.

 

[atheotes]

after going throught the day's posts, i dont see any strong case on anyone.
I am going to vote:dcmort93 - just a hunch based on his posts.

 

[Askthepizzaguy]

Nope.avi

But I would hope to collaborate with you about this. Who do YOU think should be targeted?

Whoever the number two candidate for the lynch is, which will prevent even a large scum team from sparing one of their own by creating a counterwagon. Both candidates will die. Therefore, no easy escapes for the scum team.

 

[atheotes]

Whoever the number two candidate for the lynch is, which will prevent even a large scum team from sparing one of their own by creating a counterwagon. Both candidates will die. Therefore, no easy escapes for the scum team.

With the votes divided and no clear target for the lynch, i dont think it is a good idea to do this today.

 

[JohannaK]

Someone suggested hiring bounty hunters as bodyguards and then said it was not possible. It IS indeed possible to put a bounty to protect somebody.

Also, my phone is being stupid and I might be inactive the next 48h. This might be my only post this phase, and I will not vote because I remain skeptical about the possible lynchees and I am too lazy to type the bold tags.

 

[JohannaK]

Also, I agree with atheotes.

 

[NinjaCow64]

Whoever the number two candidate for the lynch is, which will prevent even a large scum team from sparing one of their own by creating a counterwagon. Both candidates will die. Therefore, no easy escapes for the scum team.

That won't work today, considering the person who is #2 on the lynch is the person we DON'T want to die. (a.k.a TBK)