Left or Right of me.

[Manfred Belheim]

In general it is mostly right-wing. The ideology of anti-SJWism is in my experience the status quo on most of the largest online platforms

I think the mistake is to label that "right wing" though.

 

[rah]

Yeah, you don't have to be right wing to dislike those that are mostly smarmy little twits.

 

[shadowplay]

LEFT
Owen Glyndwr
Hygro
inthesomeday
Lexicus
Ajidica
Cardgame
Hrothbern
Zardnaar
Estebonrober
AmazonQueen
shadowplay
Synsensa
tjs282
Bootstoots
El_Mac
Catharsis
Truthy
BenitoChavez
Timsup2nothin
UlyssesSgrant
rah
Bernie14
onejayhawk
RIGHT

 

[inthesomeday]

I think the mistake is to label that "right wing" though.

What’s the mistake?

 

[AmazonQueen]

What’s the mistake?

SJW is one of those buzzwords frequently used when people want to dismiss something without the bother of actually arguing their case.

 

[Lexicus]

What’s the mistake?

Would you say that people who criticize "SJWs" from the left such as Mark Fisher or Adolph Reed are actually right-wing?

 

[rah]

Part of this experiment was to see how many people would put their name near the middle regardless of the rest of the list. It has been interesting. (And yes, I realize I started it that way so no abuse for it please)

 

[inthesomeday]

Would you say that people who criticize "SJWs" from the left such as Mark Fisher or Adolph Reed are actually right-wing?

Not necessarily. The political ideology of anti-SJWism is right wing, though.

 

[Lexicus]

How would you define "anti-SJWism"?

 

[ulyssesSgrant]

now I would like to know everyone's political compass scores. I got:

Economic Left/Right: -5.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.72

 

[Lexicus]

I have taken the political compass so many times that I know how to game the answers to produce any score I want, which means the test is completely useless for me.

 

[rah]

Yeah, I used to do that on personality test to score what I needed to score for the occasion. Very useful for management tracking.

 

[inthesomeday]

How would you define "anti-SJWism"?

I think you know what I’m talking about

 

[BenitoChavez]

I have taken the political compass so many times that I know how to game the answers to produce any score I want, which means the test is completely useless for me.

What does that question about abstract art measure? That seems like it has nothing to do with politics.

 

[ulyssesSgrant]

It's a well known fact that only communists like abstract art.

 

[Lexicus]

I think you know what I’m talking about

Honestly, I don't. I want to hear what other people have to say about this stuff because my own thinking on it is quite unsettled these days. I am also trying to move away from a reliance on tropes to describe this stuff.

What does that question about abstract art measure? That seems like it has nothing to do with politics.

Higher appreciation for abstract art=more liberal

Modern reactionaries have been denouncing "degenerate" modern/abstract art for as long as it has existed. You don't see it quite as much anymore (at least in public; in more private/anonymous right-wing spaces you will see it much more readily) since educated and civilized people associate those attitudes with the Nazis.

 

[ulyssesSgrant]

People on the left seem by and large content to just say they are somewhere on the left, whereas I think you have to go pretty far right before people stop pretending to be "centrists".

Have you noticed that people who claim to "lean left of center" or be a "left leaning independent" actually have a higher chance of being a proper right-winger than someone who just says they are a "centrist"? It's like they over correct to try to appear more credible or something. That has been my experience anyway.

 

[Lexicus]

Have you noticed that people who claim to "lean left of center" or be a "left leaning independent" actually have a higher chance of being a proper right-winger than someone who just says they are a "centrist"? It's like they over correct to try to appear more credible or something. That has been my experience anyway.

I haven't noticed that, most of the people who call themselves left of center or left-leaning centrists are in fact left of center or left-leaning centrists. Again, in my experience it's the right-wingers who tend to insist they have no politics at all.

 

[ulyssesSgrant]

I'm a right leaning leftist.

 

[inthesomeday]

Honestly, I don't. I want to hear what other people have to say about this stuff because my own thinking on it is quite unsettled these days. I am also trying to move away from a reliance on tropes to describe this stuff.

Well first you have to recognize that the SJW itself is something of a mythical construct invented by reactionaries. It exists as a scapegoat for any and all social progress no matter how minute, from a woman as the main character of a video game to affirmative action on college campuses. It dyes its hair and screeches and has safe spaces and so on.

So anti-SJWism is the more or less default position among most internet spaces that SJWs are super sensitive and violent, and that they seek to bring social change that is radical and will upset the natural balance of the status quo. Basically just fascism for the modern day.

I’m sure you encounter it daily.

“People are just so sensitive these days”
“Watch out, you can’t say that anymore, it might offend somebody”
“SJWs want to make attack helicopter a legal gender. Did you know gender is binary?”

Pretty much just defense of the status quo as it exists online.

Higher appreciation for abstract art=more liberal

Modern reactionaries have been denouncing "degenerate" modern/abstract art for as long as it has existed. You don't see it quite as much anymore (at least in public; in more private/anonymous right-wing spaces you will see it much more readily) since educated and civilized people associate those attitudes with the Nazis.

That’s where cultural Bolshevism/Marxism comes from! The nazis called art made by Jews or postmodernists cultural Bolshevism because they were... afraid of it? Who knows.