"Less Popular" Leader Elimination Thread

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Alexander II (Russia) 17
Alexios I Komnenos (Byzantium) 28
Hezekiah (Judah) 19
Menawa (Creek) 22
Napoleon III (France) 17
Powhatan (Powhatan Confederacy) 25
Vercingetorix (Celts / Gauls) 21 -- Uh, the Gallic Wars lasted a little longer than six months; try six years. Besides, the alternatives are Dreadlocked Hippie Boudicca or an unknown chieftain who may or may not have sacked Rome.
Yongle Emperor 2 (5 - 3) -- I think he's a decent choice, but I'd still prefer a Tang emperor.
 
Alexander II (Russia) 17
Alexios I Komnenos (Byzantium) 28+1=29 - Just one more point and he'll have 30 points he deserves for saving Byzantium!
Hezekiah (Judah) 19
Menawa (Creek) 22
Napoleon III (France) 17
Powhatan (Powhatan Confederacy) 25
Vercingetorix (Celts / Gauls) 21
Yongle Emperor 2-3=-1 (ELIMINATED) - *Sigh...* It seems that I have to end his suffering. For the second time. I think he would make a good alternative leader of China, but I have to agree that Taizong and Kangxi are better.
 
Alexander II (Russia) 17
Alexios I Komnenos (Byzantium) 29
Hezekiah (Judah) 19
Menawa (Creek) 22
Napoleon III (France) (17-3)=14 He's a decent choice for a French leader, but I prefer others. I also not too fond of European leaders from the 1800s onwards in Civ. They are mostly dressed in similar looking clothing (like Pedro II's), with the epaulets and buttons.
Powhatan (Powhatan Confederacy) (25+1)=26 I think he's a good choice for a Native American leader in Civ6. Powhatan is not his real name, of course.
Vercingetorix (Celts / Gauls) 21
 
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Alexander II (Russia) 17
Alexios I Komnenos (Byzantium) 29 + 1 = 30 (While he will be the clear runaway leader here, I can't deny his competence. The Komnenian restoration would likely be his leader ability if he was to appear in the game.)
Hezekiah (Judah) 19
Menawa (Creek) 22
Napoleon III (France) 14 - 3 = 11 (I frankly am puzzled as to how this leader survived thus far. He doesn't present a clear agenda or ability that I can see.)
Powhatan (Powhatan Confederacy) 26
Vercingetorix (Celts / Gauls) 21
 
@Morningcalm Napoleon III isn't my first choice for France (but I'll take him over his uncle or CdM), but honestly I can't think of an easier leader to select abilities or agenda for:

Napoleon III
Renovation of Paris: Districts provide +1 of their base bonus, and rebuilding pillaged districts takes half time.
Reformer: Napoleon III likes civilizations who use governments with more economic card policies, and dislikes nations who use fewer economic card policies.
 
Alexander II (Russia) 14 (17 - 3) -- If Russia needed a second leader, Alexander II would be a great choice, but Russia's doing just fine with Peter. I think Alexander II should leave before Napoleon III.
Alexios I Komnenos (Byzantium) 30
Hezekiah (Judah) 19
Menawa (Creek) 22
Napoleon III (France) 11
Powhatan (Powhatan Confederacy) 27 (26 + 1) -- Shrewd, charismatic, with a powerful presence and a confederacy of over forty tribes: sounds like a perfect Civ6 leader to me.
Vercingetorix (Celts / Gauls) 21
 
Alexander II (Russia) 14
Alexios I Komnenos (Byzantium) 30
Hezekiah (Judah) 16 (19-3) I don't believe he is the most appropriate leader for a Judah civ
Menawa (Creek) 22
Napoleon III (France) 11
Powhatan (Powhatan Confederacy) 28 (27+1) Really impressive and a real need for more interesting Native American leaders
Vercingetorix (Celts / Gauls) 21
 
Alexander II (Russia) 14
Alexios I Komnenos (Byzantium) 30+1=31 - Stopped the decline of Byzantium, started restoration of territories, finances and army and he made Byzantium strong again. He's good enough to represent Byzantium in game.
Hezekiah (Judah) 16
Menawa (Creek) 22
Napoleon III (France) 11-3=8 - I think he is a nice choice. Although he wasn't successful in the world politics, he was quite good in the home politics, and his renovation of Paris is also interesting... But I just like his uncle or some successful medieval king more.
Powhatan (Powhatan Confederacy) 28
Vercingetorix (Celts / Gauls) 21
 
Alexander II (Russia) (14-3)=11 He may have abolished serfdom, but I don't find him interesting enough (looking similar to Pedro II). Russia is fine with Peter at the moment.
Alexios I Komnenos (Byzantium) 31
Hezekiah (Judah) 16
Menawa (Creek) 22
Napoleon III (France) 8
Powhatan (Powhatan Confederacy) (28+1)=29 A great Native American leader, the Jamestown colonists depended on him to survive.
Vercingetorix (Celts / Gauls) 21

Kimiimaro is both Byzantines and Ottoman lover. :p
 
And a Venice lover, too :p

The three Civs all were involved with Byzantium/Constantinople/Istanbul. It must be your most favorite city in the world. :D
 
Alexander II (Russia) 11
Alexios I Komnenos (Byzantium) 31
Hezekiah (Judah) 16 + 1 = 17 (I don't see a better ruler for Judah who is as well-attested, or even near. There is Salome Alexandra, but she ruled Judea, which is different.)
Menawa (Creek) 22
Napoleon III (France) 8 - 3 = 5 (So he restored Paris and had public works in numerous other cities. We already have that agenda in the game. Check out Amanitore.)
Powhatan (Powhatan Confederacy) 29
Vercingetorix (Celts / Gauls) 21
 
Alexander II (Russia) 8 (11 - 3) -- Alexander should go before Napoleon if only because France needs a second leader and Russia doesn't. Plus Alexander was a good ruler but not a terribly interesting one.
Alexios I Komnenos (Byzantium) 31
Hezekiah (Judah) 17
Menawa (Creek) 22
Napoleon III (France) 5
Powhatan (Powhatan Confederacy) 30 (29 + 1) -- Powhatan, on the other hand, was both good and interesting. And both he and his empire survived first contact with Europeans, which is more than Monty and the Aztecs or Atahualpa and the Inca can say...
Vercingetorix (Celts / Gauls) 21
 
The three Civs all were involved with Byzantium/Constantinople/Istanbul. It must be your most favorite city in the world. :D
Nope, that's just a coincidence :p (although I'd definitely love to visit Constantinople/Istanbul once)

Alexander II (Russia) 8-3=5 - Although I think that he was better leader than Napoleon III, I have to agree with Zaarin about the fact that Russia needs a second leader much less than France. Forgive me, Liberator.
Alexios I Komnenos (Byzantium) 31+1=32 - It seems that it will be a final battle between the Byzantine emperor that saved his empire from collapse and made it strong again, and probably the greatest Native American Chief. Both are great choices, but I prefer the emperor.
Hezekiah (Judah) 17
Menawa (Creek) 22
Napoleon III (France) 5
Powhatan (Powhatan Confederacy) 30
Vercingetorix (Celts / Gauls) 21
 
Alexander II (Russia) (5-3)=2 Russia isn't in terrible need of a second leader, like France is.
Alexios I Komnenos (Byzantium) 32
Hezekiah (Judah) 17
Menawa (Creek) 22
Napoleon III (France) 5
Powhatan (Powhatan Confederacy) (30+1)=31 He basically was the King of his domain. I think Algonquian speaking peoples played an important role in early American history (helping the English colonists to survive, with tragic consequences for their peoples :cry:), and why not represent them in the game?
Vercingetorix (Celts / Gauls) 21
 
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Alexander II (Russia) 2
Alexios I Komnenos (Byzantium) 32
Hezekiah (Judah) 17 + 1 = 18 (I see a need to point out again how well Hezekiah would fit into VI's system. I know of few leaders who had such dire need of defenses and alliances, and who drew upon those to successfully defend a capital city. He was never the ruler of a mighty empire, but we have had numerous non-empire civs and non-empire rulers in the history of Civ before. I think the flavor of hearing a leader speak Hebrew is an added bonus)
Menawa (Creek) 22
Napoleon III (France) 5 - 3 = 2 (European, but less interesting than the other European leaders remaining. His foreign contact was almost always disastrous also. Given how much VI is about foreign relations, I think we can skip the less famous Napoleon, whose presence would almost certainly be protested by fans of the more famous Napoleon I.)
Powhatan (Powhatan Confederacy) 31
Vercingetorix (Celts / Gauls) 21
 
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Alexander II (Russia) 2 + 1 = 3. Have to step in for Alexander II here. When he inherited the throne Russia was broke, its military was backwards and in shambles, and it was engaged in a war that was going very badly. He negotiated peace to end the Crimean War and shored up Russia's finances by selling Alaska to the US which he figured Russia couldn't defend anyway. Then he moved to domestic matters. He reformed the military and made conscription across all classes. He refined the Russian military district system, and established training and schooling for Russian officers. His emancipation of the serfs was just one of his reforms including a reformation of the judicial system and simplifying the code of laws. His end goal was to set up a constitutional Monarchy like Britain. He was assassinated by socialists before he could complete it and his heir, whom he had major political differences with leading to their estrangement, rescinded it the day it was passed even though Alexander II approved it as he was literally dying. Foreign policy wise he pretty much was a pacifist. His Agenda would be that he hates civs that break promises/treaties. His leader screen should also have his Irish Setter in it since it was a common sight to see Alexander II and Milord out and about.
Alexios I Komnenos (Byzantium) 32
Hezekiah (Judah) 18
Menawa (Creek) 22 -3 = 19. Prefer Powhatan first.
Napoleon III (France) 2
Powhatan (Powhatan Confederacy) 31
Vercingetorix (Celts / Gauls) 21
 
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Alexander II (Russia) ELIMINATED -- An excellent ruler, but not as interesting as Napoleon III and Russia's not in dire need of a second leader.
Alexios I Komnenos (Byzantium) 32
Hezekiah (Judah) 18
Menawa (Creek) 19
Napoleon III (France) 2
Powhatan (Powhatan Confederacy) 32 (31 + 1) -- Reasons stated before: powerful leader, big personality, excellent replacement for the Iroquois, Algonquian representation, etc.
Vercingetorix (Celts / Gauls) 21
 
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Alexios I Komnenos (Byzantium) 32+1=33 - Although I do not miss the Byzantine Empire as much as some other important Civs (Ottomans), I think it is needed, and he is one of my first choices for the Byzantine leader.
Hezekiah (Judah) 18
Menawa (Creek) 19
Napoleon III (France) 2-3=1 (ELIMINATED) - Adieu. He would make an interesting choice for France, but I prefer his uncle, or some earlier king. And let's not forget that most of his foreign policies simply weren't successful.
Powhatan (Powhatan Confederacy) 32
Vercingetorix (Celts / Gauls) 21
 
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