LINESII- Into the Darkness- Part III

[~Darkening~]

So I take it thats a no on any kind of peace treaty?

Why would you want peace- you're completely winning . Anywho, considering the fact that you allowed yourself to be so easily manipulated into this war, I'll say that I won't accept anything than the complete return of Arcadia (everything north of the river). For the record, I simply asked Kal if he would be willing to break his alliance with you if I was to break mine with Thy. I assume he responded by informing you that I was planning war .

 

[Oruc]

Why would you want peace- you're completely winning .

and the peace treaty would be the UOA acknowledging the fact I won.

Anywho, considering the fact that you allowed yourself to be so easily manipulated into this war, I'll say that I won't accept anything than the complete return of Arcadia (everything north of the river).
For the record, I simply asked Kal if he would be willing to break his alliance with you if I was to break mine with Thy. I assume he responded by informing you that I was planning war .

well this is all very interesting, but The only peace treaty I would consider is where the UOA acknowledges that Arcadia is lost to it, anything else we stick on the treaty is pretty much fluff.

 

[Massive Attack]

I'm still here (Hugion).

I have sent Orders as well.

 

[Lord_Iggy]

Excellent!

 

[Thlayli]

For the record, I simply asked Kal if he would be willing to break his alliance with you if I was to break mine with Thy.

How nice to know you're so faithful.

From: The Valin Republics of Veritas
To: Zamdar

Very well, we shall sign your NAP.

 

[~Darkening~]

How nice to know you're so faithful.

You know, I can swear I thought the same thing when I was reading the update. Thanks for the support, btw.

and the peace treaty would be the UOA acknowledging the fact I won.

I think we're having a slight confusion concerning tenses here -You haven't won till you cross the ocean and finish what you've started. And nope, I won't accept peace without Arcadia, so I assume that the war will go onwards. I might even throw a soldier at you this turn .

 

[Oruc]

How nice to know you're so faithful.

From: The Valin Republics of Veritas
To: Zamdar

Very well, we shall sign your NAP.

Great we look forward to a more peaceful and productive future in Azulia.

OOC: I think we're the only two players left in Azulia.

You know, I can swear I thought the same thing when I was reading the update. Thanks for the support, btw.



I think we're having a slight confusion concerning tenses here -You haven't won till you cross the ocean and finish what you've started. And nope, I won't accept peace without Arcadia, so I assume that the war will go onwards. I might even throw a soldier at you this turn .

Of course I've won, my objectives have been met and if Thlayli and you aren't trying to trick me I should be able to begin work on stabilizing Arcadia.
You should cut your losses or go to Otario its sitting their doing nothing, If I had any kind of ships i'd be all over it.

 

[~Darkening~]

Of course I've won, my objectives have been met and if Thlayli and you aren't trying to trick me I should be able to begin work on stabilizing Arcadia.
You should cut your losses or go to Otario its sitting their doing nothing, If I had any kind of ships i'd be all over it.

Please-go back and read the update. You're only barely in control, requiring a stable military prescense in order to mantain control. What exactly will happen when you're forced to shift those troops elsewhere, and leave the populace unchecked? You do realize that you've invaded just about the most intolerant Oneist populace, one basically seething to rebel? Considering that you've promised Thy not to interfer with thier religious choice, you'll never have peace while ruling a Oneist community- have you not paid any attention to Kal'thzar's troubles? This will go on for another twenty updates while you struggle to stamp the UoA out, always scoring devestating victories but never quite able to finish the job. I'm sure you thought about the situation when you decided to attack me but did you honestly forgot those little facts?

I will carry on without Thy if needed, continuing to fight this never-ending struggle. I've done it for the last twenty turns- what honestly makes you think I'll stop now? All Thy has ever done for me is worsen the situation- I'm actually eager to see how well he does with those schemes of his without anyone to stop him . Now, back to the situation: like I said, you'll never have peace. I'll continue to attack, provoke, urge, and rebel until the game ceases to continue. Or you can release Arcadia, allow all those pesky religious Pirians a place to move to, and accept peace. I honestly don't care either way .

 

[Oruc]

I doubt Thlayli will be bothered if I kill some rebels to bring the province under control just as long as I dont try and convert the province. I don't see why they will continue to be all angry for eternity I'll just treat them the same as the Zemorans if they play ball.

Why do your people switch from tolerance to Intolerant its annoying, when you were trying to stop orum rebelling you kept harping on about how the Pirians were tolerance personified.

If you continue to be annoying I'll eventually get round to building a fleet so I can finish you off. Its not hard to figure out, I could probably convince someone else to help If I give them any land I take and bugger off back to Azulia.

 

[~Darkening~]

I don't see why they will continue to be all angry for eternity I'll just treat them the same as the Zemorans if they play ball.

That's the whole point- they're not Zemorans .

Why do your people switch from tolerance to Intolerant its annoying, when you were trying to stop orum rebelling you kept harping on about how the Pirians were tolerance personified.

I think you're getting Ardan confused with Arcadia . Ardan is tolerance personified- Arcadian isn't .

If you continue to be annoying I'll eventually get round to building a fleet so I can finish you off. Its not hard to figure out, I could probably convince someone else to help If I give them any land I take and bugger off back to Azulia.

Who exactly? I've beaten you to the punch with just about every sharing a border with me- but, then again, why don't you just call Kal'thzar for help .

 

[Oruc]

That's the whole point- they're not Zemorans .



I think you're getting Ardan confused with Arcadia . Ardan is tolerance personified- Arcadian isn't .



Who exactly? I've beaten you to the punch with just about every sharing a border with me- but, then again, why don't you just call Kal'thzar for help .

The Ardan include the Arcadians, how can the UOA be tolerant while half of its people and government is intolerant.

I've never said I would finish you off now only if you persist as a nuisance, look at Croyodon and Gorin friends for ages. Your one turn of co-operation with your current neighbours wont last for ever and your foolish if you think someone wont take up the offer.

 

[~Darkening~]

The Ardan include the Arcadians, how can the UOA be tolerant while half of its people and government is intolerant.

Because Davar was the birthplace of tolerence. I.e, with much of the Union burned, held, and shattered- Davar will be the place of rebirth. And, as Orum, Radis, and Davar make up more than Arcadia, one side is greater than the other. And as the government is made up of representitives from the provinces (based upon population), the Arcadians are quite outnumbered.

I've never said I would finish you off now only if you persist as a nuisance, look at Croyodon and Gorin friends for ages. Your one turn of co-operation with your current neighbours wont last for ever and your foolish if you think someone wont take up the offer.

Please read between the lines.

 

[Oruc]

Because Davar was the birthplace of tolerence. I.e, with much of the Union burned, held, and shattered- Davar will be the place of rebirth. And, as Orum, Radis, and Davar make up more than Arcadia, one side is greater than the other. And as the government is made up of representitives from the provinces (based upon population), the Arcadians are quite outnumbered.

In update 25 Davar was lost and when you get Davar back it was much smaller then before the wars. So Arcadia would have had more people, would have outnumbered Orum and Davar. It would be in the dominant position because it didn't fall in a war and it was most likely the one who orchastrated (sp) the deal to regain parts of Davar.

Also if Ardan is tolerant, the other peoples beliefs would have influenced the Arcadians and they would no longer be the seething maniacs you portray them as, or everyone else in the Union would have become seething maniacs. They are part of a bloody union Cultural exchanges and influences will happen.

Please read between the lines.

Nope sorry I'm not very good at that. I usually judge things at face value or a book by its cover.
That damn cover was designed to attract the people who will probably enjoy the book thats the entire of the cover........ anyway yeah.

 

[Kal'thzar]

my 'problems' stemed from an organisation, which I assumed at the time was funded by Thy. Other than that religious issues have only become a problem when a new round of wars has been declared.

AS in all things time is the only cure and such a permanant change should be...intresting.

 

[Lord_Iggy]

@~Dark~- I've never known the Arcadians to be intolerant. Nationalist and easily annoyed, but not fanatics.

 

[Silver Steak]

It doesn't matter what the people have been in the past or not. What the player finds to his liking at the moment is what the nation shifts towards. For some, story and continuity is more important than" winning". The identity and culture they have shaped for their nation define the measures. For most, the measures overrides - or forcibly changes - the nation's identity. :/

 

[alex994]

OOC: Having an OOC debate is pointless, just go settle it on the battlefield

 

[The Farow]

Sorry, I have been gone a while and when is the new deadline? Will it be Friday again?

 

[Lord_Iggy]

I can't do any more LINESIIing until the summer. IB school...

 

[The Farow]

That is what I thought but I noticed an I sent orders remark. Just making sure