Omega124
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The Commonwealth of New England's history
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History of Colombia
(includes some bits for Ecuador, England and the CRA, hope thats okay)
(includes some bits for Ecuador, England and the CRA, hope thats okay)
Spoiler :
Milarqui
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History of the Iberian Union
1807 - Treaty of Fontainebleau: Portugal is to be divided in three parts in order to enforce the Continental Blockade to prevent the United Kingdom from trading with Europe. French troops cross Spain and take Lisbon on December 1st with no military opposition. The Portuguese royal court manages to escape Lisbon two days before, and they manage to reach Brazil, where they will live for the next six years.
1808-1812 - Napoleón's troops invade Spain, but there Napoleón suffers his first failures, as the Battle of Bailén and the Siege of Zaragoza bolster Spanish resistance. Fernando VII and his father Carlos IV renounce to the throne in favour of Joseph Bonaparte, who becomes King of Spain and pushes for the development of Spain in a way akin to Napoleonic France. He finds much support amongst the middle class and the few progressive nobles, but the lower classes and ultraconservative nobility are against him. The Spanish Independence War lasts four years, in which Napoleon's troops, while holding military superiority against the combined Spanish-Anglo-Portuguese armies, suffer greatly thanks to the guerrillas that populate the Spanish countryside. In the end, the French are expelled from Spain. The former kings of Spain, Carlos IV and Fernando VII, die in strange circumstances: most people accuse an assassin paid by Napoleon of doing so, but in the end it turns out they suffered heart attacks brought by their gout and other illnesses they suffered.
1813: With their country freed, the Portuguese Royal Family goes back to Portugal, but a freak storm destroys the fleet, killing most of them. Nearly all of Spanish South America independizes from the mainland, going their own way.
1814: The death of Carlos IV and Fernando VII, as well as the fact that the rest of the Royal Family has lost all rights to succession due to the renounce by both of them, gives Napoleon a chance to, at least, manage to gain something out of all of this. Through Talleyrand, he manages to convince the Congress of Vienna to allow Joseph Bonaparte to remain as King of Spain. With no other choice - despite Fernando's brother Carlos rattling - they accept.
1815-1844: José I Bonaparte painstakingly manages to restore Spain from the destruction the Spanish Independence War has brought to them, thanks to the support of the ilustrated nobility. There is still much unrest due to the fact that Joseph is French, but he slowly manages to gain the loyalty of most of the nation. His death becomes a day of mourning amongst the Spaniards, who had grown to appreciate the monarch they had, in the past, nicknamed "Pepe Botella" for his supposed alcoholism. During his rule, Sardinia was reconquered for Spain after Piedmont was absorbed into France.
1850: The death of one of the only two royal survivors of the Catastrophe of the Atlantic (as the loss of the Portuguese Royal Family was called), Queen María II of Portugal, provokes a succession crisis in Portugal: her only living relative is the current Queen Consort of Spain, former Princess Francisca of Brazil, who married José II of Spain. Being that this situation is nearly identical to that of centuries before, when Felipe II inherited the throne of Portugal through his mother Isabel, there is talk of a new rebellion to prevent José II from gaining the throne, and give it to some other noble. However, in the end Portugal is absorbed into Spain, and they experiment an improvement in their lives thanks to the progressive thinking of José II.
1865: the Spanish posts in northern Africa are attacked by Moroccan armies and Rifain guerrillas. In response, Spain declares war on Morocco. The far better armed Spanish troops manage to beat the Moroccan troops and establish Spanish control over the whole country. Rifain attacks remain a problem for many years.
1910: Luis II of Iberia ascends to the throne after the death of his father José III. He proves to be an awful king, so much that the whole Kingdom of Iberia rebels against him after only three months (indeed, he will be nicknamed "The Evil"). Cuba, Puerto Rico and Philippines manage to gain independence in this moment of uncertainty, but loyal troops secure Morocco, Sardinia and Portugal. The death of Luis II without any heirs, as well as the lack of potential new kings, the main politicians decide to establish the Iberian Federal Union, in the model of the United States of America.
1911-1959: (Don't know, I guess something about fighting in a World War on the French side)
If this story is in conflict with any others, I apologize.
1807 - Treaty of Fontainebleau: Portugal is to be divided in three parts in order to enforce the Continental Blockade to prevent the United Kingdom from trading with Europe. French troops cross Spain and take Lisbon on December 1st with no military opposition. The Portuguese royal court manages to escape Lisbon two days before, and they manage to reach Brazil, where they will live for the next six years.
1808-1812 - Napoleón's troops invade Spain, but there Napoleón suffers his first failures, as the Battle of Bailén and the Siege of Zaragoza bolster Spanish resistance. Fernando VII and his father Carlos IV renounce to the throne in favour of Joseph Bonaparte, who becomes King of Spain and pushes for the development of Spain in a way akin to Napoleonic France. He finds much support amongst the middle class and the few progressive nobles, but the lower classes and ultraconservative nobility are against him. The Spanish Independence War lasts four years, in which Napoleon's troops, while holding military superiority against the combined Spanish-Anglo-Portuguese armies, suffer greatly thanks to the guerrillas that populate the Spanish countryside. In the end, the French are expelled from Spain. The former kings of Spain, Carlos IV and Fernando VII, die in strange circumstances: most people accuse an assassin paid by Napoleon of doing so, but in the end it turns out they suffered heart attacks brought by their gout and other illnesses they suffered.
1813: With their country freed, the Portuguese Royal Family goes back to Portugal, but a freak storm destroys the fleet, killing most of them. Nearly all of Spanish South America independizes from the mainland, going their own way.
1814: The death of Carlos IV and Fernando VII, as well as the fact that the rest of the Royal Family has lost all rights to succession due to the renounce by both of them, gives Napoleon a chance to, at least, manage to gain something out of all of this. Through Talleyrand, he manages to convince the Congress of Vienna to allow Joseph Bonaparte to remain as King of Spain. With no other choice - despite Fernando's brother Carlos rattling - they accept.
1815-1844: José I Bonaparte painstakingly manages to restore Spain from the destruction the Spanish Independence War has brought to them, thanks to the support of the ilustrated nobility. There is still much unrest due to the fact that Joseph is French, but he slowly manages to gain the loyalty of most of the nation. His death becomes a day of mourning amongst the Spaniards, who had grown to appreciate the monarch they had, in the past, nicknamed "Pepe Botella" for his supposed alcoholism. During his rule, Sardinia was reconquered for Spain after Piedmont was absorbed into France.
1850: The death of one of the only two royal survivors of the Catastrophe of the Atlantic (as the loss of the Portuguese Royal Family was called), Queen María II of Portugal, provokes a succession crisis in Portugal: her only living relative is the current Queen Consort of Spain, former Princess Francisca of Brazil, who married José II of Spain. Being that this situation is nearly identical to that of centuries before, when Felipe II inherited the throne of Portugal through his mother Isabel, there is talk of a new rebellion to prevent José II from gaining the throne, and give it to some other noble. However, in the end Portugal is absorbed into Spain, and they experiment an improvement in their lives thanks to the progressive thinking of José II.
1865: the Spanish posts in northern Africa are attacked by Moroccan armies and Rifain guerrillas. In response, Spain declares war on Morocco. The far better armed Spanish troops manage to beat the Moroccan troops and establish Spanish control over the whole country. Rifain attacks remain a problem for many years.
1910: Luis II of Iberia ascends to the throne after the death of his father José III. He proves to be an awful king, so much that the whole Kingdom of Iberia rebels against him after only three months (indeed, he will be nicknamed "The Evil"). Cuba, Puerto Rico and Philippines manage to gain independence in this moment of uncertainty, but loyal troops secure Morocco, Sardinia and Portugal. The death of Luis II without any heirs, as well as the lack of potential new kings, the main politicians decide to establish the Iberian Federal Union, in the model of the United States of America.
1911-1959: (Don't know, I guess something about fighting in a World War on the French side)
If this story is in conflict with any others, I apologize.
Omega124
Challenging Fate
Mil, why doesn't the Carlists try to claim the throne?
Signed King George VI and Prime Minister Richard Eden
edit: When I do my timeline, I will try to include as many influences from other timelines as possible to keep it all similar.
Milarqui
Deity
Fernando VII and Carlos IV renounce to the throne -> Both die before re-claiming the throne -> Fernando's brother has no claim to the throne -> The Congress of Vienna tells him to screw it -> He provokes a rebellion on Eastern Spain and the Basque Country -> The loyalist troops destroy him.
Or: Fernando VII and Carlos IV renounce to the throne -> Both of them, plus Carlos, die before being able to re-claim the throne (and, in Carlos' case, before claiming the throne).
Also, the Carlists was the faction that supported Carlos, not the wannabe king himself. Thank God he lost the Carlist Wars, it would have been coming out of the pan that was Fernando to fall into the fuggin' hell Carlos V would have been.
Omega124
Challenging Fate
Signed King George VI and Prime Minister Richard Eden
edit: When I do my timeline, I will try to include as many influences from other timelines as possible to keep it all similar.
I think George is dead. He's been dead for over 30 Years now. The game starts in 1980, its just that the /culture/ is in the 50s.
EDIT: They can formally lose the claim for the throne, but still demand it. Look at Spain's attempts to regain Gibraltar in the 60s and the 2002, and the treaty they signed giving it to Britian.
The Treaty of Utrecht said:
Milarqui
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It starts in 1960. He would have been dead for 7 years at most (and, if there wasn't WWII, then I doubt he would die so early).
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Gran Colombia
Though Colombia is colloquially known as Gran Colombia by most, its official title is the ‘United States of Gran Colombia’.
Its flag,
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...0px-Flag_of_United_States_of_Colombia.svg.png
Its coat of arms,
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4c/Escudo_Estados_Unidos_de_Colombia.svg
Gran Colombia's political system is based on proportional representation which allows for a multi-party system with numerous parties. There are currently five parties with more than five seats in the 149-seat ‘Assembly’, and a single party usually has no chance of gaining power by itself (only once has a party held an absolute majority in the Assembly), forcing the parties to cooperate and form coalition governments. In addition to these five major parties there are innumerable smaller parties who may hold a lesser number of seats by appealing to more specific interests.
A ruling coalition will appoint a President to speak on their behalf who typically acts as representative until such time as the coalition is voted down or a rift within the coalition forces a new realignment of interests. Typically one president will serve for 1 or 2 four-year terms. It is fairly uncommon but not unheard of for a President to be replaced within a term.
Partido del Consolidación: A major right-wing party, the Consolidation Party (CP) was formed from the union of several smaller right-wing parties. It advocates a free market capitalist and conservative agenda though in practice it has adopted a more mixed economic policy. Under its leadership many state-owned ventures have been privatized. The CP has typically advocated a strong military and has historically not been shy to vote in favor of foreign military involvement as part of larger coalitions if the cause is justified.
The CP is led by Andrés Pérez, a semi-retired business tycoon involved in shipping and oil. It holds 39 seats in the Assembly and is not part of the current coalition government.
Movimiento del Moderación: A break-away group from a now defunct right-wing party (which itself is now part of the CP), the moderation movement (MM) grew from a growing dissatisfaction with the elitist agenda and strong persecution of communist and socialist ideology of their former comrades. They advocate a mixed economy with strong state intervention and tend to adopt a more liberal agenda. Though pro-military, they have been traditionally against the involvement of the military in foreign military affairs.
The MM is led by President Carmen Custodio who leads the current coalition. The MM holds 59 seats on the Assembly.
The Movimiento para la Lusticia Popular has its roots in the socialist movement but has moderated its pro-socialist agenda to appeal to a larger population. It advocates a larger role for government in the economy, higher taxes, greater social security and national health programs, the reform of the police and a smaller military. It is very strongly in favor of both the recent Quito and San Francisco treaties and has a very positive outlook towards foreign trade.
The MPJ is led by Moises Moreno and forms a coalition government with the Moderation Movement. It holds 19 seats on the Assembly.
The Colombiano Partido Comunista is not as unpopular as its opponents might hope. It advocates an entire revamping of the Colombian economic system and closer ties with the Soviet and socialist states of eastern Eurasia. Generally it is not well tolerated by other parties and only once has it ever formed part of a coalition government.
The CCP is led by Mercedes Días and holds 12 seats on the Assembly.
The Unión Católico Coalición claims to be secular but advocates a reactionary agenda with strong religious overtones. Many arguments they make in Assembly are based on the Bible or the Vatican. They are also very far right or even ultra-right in their political ideology.
The UCC is currently in transition with no official leadership. They hold 6 seats on the Assembly.
Other parties, each with under five seats include:
The Colombiano Patriota who are domestically liberal but have a militarily-focused foreign policy. Many of their arguments have strong revanchist and irredentilist overtones. They hold four seats.
The Cambio Radical is a conservative liberal political party with a strong centralist and anti-federaist ideology. It holds 3 seats.
The Polo Democrático Alternativo is a break-away from the Moderation Movement but does little to distinguish itself from it former allies beyond acting in opposition to almost all they do. There is a strongly anti- Carmen Custodio ideology and most of their arguments tend to be of a personal nature. They hold 2 seats.
The Colombia Imperialas is a strongly nationalistic and militant party with strong anti-European, anti-North American and anti-Brazilian ideology. They hold 2seats.
The Comunista Independiente advocate a communist government but one independent from the Soviets or other communists powers. They hold 1 seat.
The Unión Progresista is strongly pro-business and backed almost exclusively by the oil and mining tycoons of Lake Maracaibo and its cronies/allies. They hold 1 seat.
Though Colombia is colloquially known as Gran Colombia by most, its official title is the ‘United States of Gran Colombia’.
Its flag,
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikiped...0px-Flag_of_United_States_of_Colombia.svg.png
Its coat of arms,
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4c/Escudo_Estados_Unidos_de_Colombia.svg
Gran Colombia's political system is based on proportional representation which allows for a multi-party system with numerous parties. There are currently five parties with more than five seats in the 149-seat ‘Assembly’, and a single party usually has no chance of gaining power by itself (only once has a party held an absolute majority in the Assembly), forcing the parties to cooperate and form coalition governments. In addition to these five major parties there are innumerable smaller parties who may hold a lesser number of seats by appealing to more specific interests.
A ruling coalition will appoint a President to speak on their behalf who typically acts as representative until such time as the coalition is voted down or a rift within the coalition forces a new realignment of interests. Typically one president will serve for 1 or 2 four-year terms. It is fairly uncommon but not unheard of for a President to be replaced within a term.
Partido del Consolidación: A major right-wing party, the Consolidation Party (CP) was formed from the union of several smaller right-wing parties. It advocates a free market capitalist and conservative agenda though in practice it has adopted a more mixed economic policy. Under its leadership many state-owned ventures have been privatized. The CP has typically advocated a strong military and has historically not been shy to vote in favor of foreign military involvement as part of larger coalitions if the cause is justified.
The CP is led by Andrés Pérez, a semi-retired business tycoon involved in shipping and oil. It holds 39 seats in the Assembly and is not part of the current coalition government.
Movimiento del Moderación: A break-away group from a now defunct right-wing party (which itself is now part of the CP), the moderation movement (MM) grew from a growing dissatisfaction with the elitist agenda and strong persecution of communist and socialist ideology of their former comrades. They advocate a mixed economy with strong state intervention and tend to adopt a more liberal agenda. Though pro-military, they have been traditionally against the involvement of the military in foreign military affairs.
The MM is led by President Carmen Custodio who leads the current coalition. The MM holds 59 seats on the Assembly.
The Movimiento para la Lusticia Popular has its roots in the socialist movement but has moderated its pro-socialist agenda to appeal to a larger population. It advocates a larger role for government in the economy, higher taxes, greater social security and national health programs, the reform of the police and a smaller military. It is very strongly in favor of both the recent Quito and San Francisco treaties and has a very positive outlook towards foreign trade.
The MPJ is led by Moises Moreno and forms a coalition government with the Moderation Movement. It holds 19 seats on the Assembly.
The Colombiano Partido Comunista is not as unpopular as its opponents might hope. It advocates an entire revamping of the Colombian economic system and closer ties with the Soviet and socialist states of eastern Eurasia. Generally it is not well tolerated by other parties and only once has it ever formed part of a coalition government.
The CCP is led by Mercedes Días and holds 12 seats on the Assembly.
The Unión Católico Coalición claims to be secular but advocates a reactionary agenda with strong religious overtones. Many arguments they make in Assembly are based on the Bible or the Vatican. They are also very far right or even ultra-right in their political ideology.
The UCC is currently in transition with no official leadership. They hold 6 seats on the Assembly.
Other parties, each with under five seats include:
The Colombiano Patriota who are domestically liberal but have a militarily-focused foreign policy. Many of their arguments have strong revanchist and irredentilist overtones. They hold four seats.
The Cambio Radical is a conservative liberal political party with a strong centralist and anti-federaist ideology. It holds 3 seats.
The Polo Democrático Alternativo is a break-away from the Moderation Movement but does little to distinguish itself from it former allies beyond acting in opposition to almost all they do. There is a strongly anti- Carmen Custodio ideology and most of their arguments tend to be of a personal nature. They hold 2 seats.
The Colombia Imperialas is a strongly nationalistic and militant party with strong anti-European, anti-North American and anti-Brazilian ideology. They hold 2seats.
The Comunista Independiente advocate a communist government but one independent from the Soviets or other communists powers. They hold 1 seat.
The Unión Progresista is strongly pro-business and backed almost exclusively by the oil and mining tycoons of Lake Maracaibo and its cronies/allies. They hold 1 seat.
TheLizardKing
Let's talk Michelle.
I have enjoyed the histories thus far guys.
Just as a reminder, orders in two days. Get em' in sooner if you can.
EDIT: ninja'd by Immac. Nice mate!
Just as a reminder, orders in two days. Get em' in sooner if you can.
EDIT: ninja'd by Immac. Nice mate!
TheLizardKing
Let's talk Michelle.
Also, I kind of screwed up a bit. All of you 'Constitutional Monarchies' have generally weak monarchs, and should probably essentially view yourself as Republican nations, albeit with a very weak ruler. Mind you, you can change this as you want.
Omega124
Challenging Fate
No Prussian Constiutionalism in this timeline? I am saddened.
TheLizardKing
Let's talk Michelle.
You can have whatever type of government you want, I suppose. But the idea I set off with, is essentially the modern British style of Constitutional Monarchy/Parliamentary Democracy.
TheLizardKing
Let's talk Michelle.
Nope.
And I got em'!
And I got em'!
Omega124
Challenging Fate
To: US, Britian
From: The Commonwealth of New England
We wish to confirm that the Treaty of Ghent is still in full force.
From: The Commonwealth of New England
We wish to confirm that the Treaty of Ghent is still in full force.
TheLizardKing
Let's talk Michelle.
From: The United Mid-Atlantic States
To: The Commonwealth of New England
You currently have your independence, don't you?
To: The Commonwealth of New England
You currently have your independence, don't you?
