LizNES5: Or How I Learned To Stop Worrying, And Love The Bomb

[GamezRule]

That is Belize. The Mosquito Coast is down in Nicaragua

 

[arya126]

The USA is very glad that a treaty could be negotiated on to end the danish affair, and thanks the Dutch for their efforts in mediating such a peace. May it last a long time!

 

[TheLizardKing]

Britain owns Belize, not the Mosquito Coast then.

 

[thomas.berubeg]

My stats not updated, TLK

 

[TheLizardKing]

I fixed them Thomas. I banked the EP you couldn't use for another level, as it would take 8 EP, whilst you only had 4 to use.

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In terms of Tech and the like, what about something like this. A player can only gain up to 3 techs a turn, be it from trading, or research?

Also, I've thought a lot about what Kozmos said. The various units.. i.e, aircraft carriers, fighter squadrons, etc. might be a bit much. Would anyone be opposed if I was to switch the various units to entire groups? It'd be a bit easier for me to mod, I think, and may shift the focus towards UU's.

What is everyones thoughts on the matter?

 

[Abaddon]

Simplification is always better that it being too hard to moderate.

Dont worry about tech, with the logic costing, it will very soon slow down once we hit levels 5 an 6..

 

[arya126]

Tech sounds good, but I have absolutely no idea what your talking about with the units

 

[Milarqui]

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[Julius Gandi]

Tech sounds good, but I have absolutely no idea what your talking about with the units

I think he is thinking of going from having each unit to having, lets say.

In the navy you have 5 Fleets or tasks forces, instead of 15 destroyers, 10 cruisers, 3 conventional subs, 1 nuclear sub, 3 carriers, etc.

In land you have 10 divisions instead of 5 conscripts 3 regular, 5 tank battalions etc.

 

[badunoff]

I liked the naval unites as they were. They permit a lot more possibility when planning strategic maneuvers.

 

[Julius Gandi]

I liked the naval unites as they were. They permit a lot more possibility when planning strategic maneuvers.

Well Im all for Task Forces being an aircraft carrier, destroyers, and a missile cruiser or two but I agree that things like submarines and take divisions should still be separate. You can always get creative with orders with with those constraints.

 

[Immaculate]

Gotta agree with badanuff- each unit is one ship- its nice to know what they are.

Also, part of the fun for players is choosing the right unit to counter what you think the enemy will be using.

I know that sometimes its better to simplify things but if its the difference between a 4h update or a 5h update, i think its worth it. They add a lot to the game and oversimplification can also be a problem. No one is here to play checkers (not implying thats what it would be- just trying to illustrate a point).

yeah, keep the unit types. and give them stats like you did for SMW too please.

 

[Julius Gandi]

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[Agent 89]

To: Comintern
From: The Republic of West Africa

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[badunoff]

I liked the naval unites as they were. They permit a lot more possibility when planning strategic maneuvers.

I think the same should go for all military types, but maybe its just me. Tanks should be used diffrently from infantry. Also, I don't think UUs will go up if there are less types of units.

 

[TheLizardKing]

At the same point, naval groups and the like make it a lot easier for me to mod. I ran SMW and all of it's revivals (I actually think their was only 1) for about 15-20 updates. The biggest killer their was all the differentiated units. The Destroyers, cruisers, different classes of dreadnoughts. And while I love it all, it's easier on myself to do so.

 

[badunoff]

I'm not saying the update has to discuss each induvidual ship, I'm saying this allows people to win based on a good strategy rather than just throwing units at each other and seeing who is the last man standing.

 

[arya126]

If thats the case, then I am very opposed to navies becoming the equal of building a 'fleet' or 'group' in general. The individual ships add alot to the game, as do the land units. If you take them away, its basicly the biggest industry wins. Thats not what i looked forward to when i joined this NES. I think badunoff has a good grasp on what im trying to say, so just listen to him.

 

[Immaculate]

Agree with Bad and Arya. sorry TLK... their arguements make a lot of sense and i for one really enjoy putting together little strategy maps with what sort of units go where in my assaults/defenses.