Well, you could tie the MPP to an alliance vs another civ, and hope your MPP partner makes peace with the other civ.romeothemonk said:
(if you dont care about rep then you can ofcourse juet declare directly)
LK101, Diety, World Map, Civ=TBD
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(if you dont care about rep then you can ofcourse juet declare directly)
romeothemonk
Order of the Engineer
A minor detail, I will need to be skipped/swapped if I come up again before Monday. I am putting in 10-13 hours a day at the lab, and then get to spend less than 1 hour with the wife. This is not so good. This extreme overload will end this week though. I will then be out of town this weekend.
Lab rules are weird. I can use any software on the computer already, I just can't add C3C. I end up starting an experiment, and "monitoring" it for 6+ hours.
Lab rules are weird. I can use any software on the computer already, I just can't add C3C. I end up starting an experiment, and "monitoring" it for 6+ hours.
Just install it on a portable HD or USB dongle thing 
Or simply bring a laptop
Or simply bring a laptop
M60A3TTS
Ex-treadhead
Wouldn't see a need to try a steal at this point. Based on the current tech level, I think we're fine with cav, artillery and knight/cav armies. We won't need tanks or planes until we get to Asia.
I'd try when maybe we can take a stolen tech and deal it elsewhere for one we don't have.
I'd try when maybe we can take a stolen tech and deal it elsewhere for one we don't have.
Did some maths.. since with the MPP in place.. we can do 2 immediate steals for same price as a safe one, and it gives higher chance of success than 1 safeM60A3TTS said:
Only problem is ofcourse we cant sell it on, but we can then see if india has/gets flight.. and I doubt it will be cheaper to get it later
Spies will give slightly better chance of getting it, but at the risk of war since the MPP will be over by then (thou ofcourse.. we could renew the MPP and prolly get all of indias techs and gold again)
We are ahead of or equal to everyone except india who is up combustion and whatever else behind it.
Edit: We are only equal to china, everyone else is atleast 2 techs behind
Edit: We are only equal to china, everyone else is atleast 2 techs behind
Only reason to steal would be to see if india has flight/mass production/Motorized transportation
Just a quick update.. currently in turn 6.. I declared on america in turn 5, and captued 3 of their 5 cities in turn 6 (including pyramids and rubber)
Aztecs only have 2 size 12 cities left on mainland america.. the rest are size 6 or below
Atm Iroquois is being the biggest opponent.. they keep sending around 10 units per turn and has gotten to average vs us in military. (they have 10 size 12 cities)
We have 2 more cav armies, and a leader waiting to rush the MA in turn 7 (didnt want to waste 2 turns of shields in Iron Works so it is completing a collosseum first)
We control around half the non tundra parts of north america, and are number 1 civ in cities, territory and population by a comfortable margin...
Aztecs only have 2 size 12 cities left on mainland america.. the rest are size 6 or below
Atm Iroquois is being the biggest opponent.. they keep sending around 10 units per turn and has gotten to average vs us in military. (they have 10 size 12 cities)
We have 2 more cav armies, and a leader waiting to rush the MA in turn 7 (didnt want to waste 2 turns of shields in Iron Works so it is completing a collosseum first)
We control around half the non tundra parts of north america, and are number 1 civ in cities, territory and population by a comfortable margin...
romeothemonk
Order of the Engineer
Can we sign peace with the Iro's and come back to them in 20 turns? Will it take 20 turns to secure North Amercia from the other jokers?
Should we start getting some ships together to start taking out the small 2-3 tile islands the Aztecs have? Or are we ignoring these?
Should we start getting some ships together to start taking out the small 2-3 tile islands the Aztecs have? Or are we ignoring these?
The Aztec capital jumped to one of those islands
I was planning to start building some ships to go after them.
no reason to make peace with iros. I will start going after them as soon as America is dead
Aztecs mostly have just Tundra cities left, so it is more to gain to go after iros atm (plus I can pretty much ignore aztecs after I raze 2-3 more of their cities.. somehow they are still strong vs us military, but I expect that is all infantery in their tundra towns.. they havent had saltpeter for several turns now, and I am killing their last trickle of cavs)
I was planning to start building some ships to go after them.
no reason to make peace with iros. I will start going after them as soon as America is dead
Aztecs mostly have just Tundra cities left, so it is more to gain to go after iros atm (plus I can pretty much ignore aztecs after I raze 2-3 more of their cities.. somehow they are still strong vs us military, but I expect that is all infantery in their tundra towns.. they havent had saltpeter for several turns now, and I am killing their last trickle of cavs)
I just finished 5 mins ago.. working on the writeup
1375AD, turn 0:
A lot of work, but I go through all cities and MM.. I shave off a turn on research on Espionage
Factory in IW goes from 6 to 5 turns by switching tiles
Shave off a turn in several cities, others I MM so they grow a turn or two faster where that is allowed by happiness
I notice that Tucuman can build Wall street in 4 turns if it builds police station first.. since we have no immediate need for wall street, and we will want police station in that town anyway, I switch the wall street build to PS.
We have almost no cities building military.
I understand the need for rifles/infantery, but at the moment we need more Gaucho's bad too..
Dont dont have immediate need for defense in coastal cities except for MP, since marines is not around yet.. so I switch Buenos aires and Cordoba to cavs.. they will get back to rifles again a few turns
China has no gpt available, so no point in stealing combustion atm except to see what else india has
over to the front:
I am not comfortable having our settler stack that close to a high fli risk city.. so I move them back a few tiles
I move the Artillery stack towards Tzintzunzen, cover it with a knight army
move cav and 2 more knight armies up
IBT:
Australia and babylon ally vs mongols..
babylon and iroquois ally vs aztecs
babylon and india ally vs egypt
germany and america ally vs australia... I cantwait to eliminate some more nations..
iroquois and mongols ally vs us!
Buenos Aires: Guacho -> guacho
All Barracks: Worker -> temple
Concordia: settler -> settler
New Cordoba: worker -> court
Catamarca: aqueduct -> court
1380AD, turn 1:
lots of worker action
bombard an aztec cav and kill with elite cav, no leader
move up units
IBT:
trade embargo vs us between france and babylon ends
Persia and iroquois ally vs india (persia declares on india.. possible new MPP war)
songhai and germany sign peace
Greece wants to sell us their Wm for replaceable parts.. yeah, right..
Persia and mongols sign peace
venezuela and songhai makes peace
greece and russia signs trade embargo vs us
trade embargo vs us between greeca and iroquois ends
Persia triggers the MPP..
All Barracks flips again.. taking a Guerilla with it
Cordoba: Guacho -> Guacho
I scroll ahead to prevent ant riots due to the loss of ivory.. hmm.. we are actually more happy now than last turn.. declaring on persia must have brought back war happiness from first war or something
its not all cities thou.. some needs fixing
Mendoza: settler -> worker
Viedma: Cath -> Guacho
Formosa: worker -> settler
1385AD, turn 2:
redline regular rifle defender in All Barracks
recapture All Barracks
redline 3 infantery and a cav in Tzintzuntzen
kill first inf with 4/4 guacho.. promotes
4/4 guacho kills next inf
4/4 guacho kills next inf
4/4 guacho kills cav defender, and raze the town get 8 slaves (including a russian one)
Guacho army kills inf defdender in Tula.. drops to 4 hp..
knight army kills another inf
2nd knight army kills the 3rd inf, and a cav shows up top
11hp knight army kills the cav and raze Tula.. get 5 slaves
cultural borders opens up a lot.. so I decide to go after the aztec capital next to move it further away from from smiths and All Barracks since artillery can bombard it next turn
found New Avellaneda
found New Parana
I could attack the aztec capital this turn by founding a temporary city.. but instead i decide to wait one turn and found a permanent city instead
redline and kill an aztec cav.. and get a leader:
3 turns till the factory in Iron Works finish, and I have lots of elites.. so I decide to make another cav army
redline 2 inf and three cavs in Miami
kill them all
Miami is just size 3 and aztecs has no expanded borders yet.. so it is prolly mostkly American city still.. so I capture it
Yes.. all 3 citizens are American.. no resistors
aztecs is without both iron and saltpeter now.. so horses are the only fast units they can build now
redline an aztec cav and kill it with 4/5 guacho, no leader
redline 2 iroquios cavs
lots of worker movements and careful placement of armies and infantery to cover all workers, artillery and cities
IBT:
trade embargo vs us between egypt and aztecs ends
Some iroquoi cavs move up next to All Barracks
Songhai and Germany allies vs Iroquois
babylon and india ally vs zulus
songhai has attacked india.. so we have to declare
trade embargo against us vs greece and mongols ends
China and aztecs sign peace
Since the army wall is moved several aztec cavs and infantery enters our lands
Buenos Aires: guacho -> guacho
mendoza: worker -> wealth
Tucuman: Police station -> wall street
New Tucuman: worker -> worker
Bariloche: factory -> settler
Horse Town: Settler -> settler
1390AD, turn 3:
China has combustion now
Looks like Aztecs picked up both refining and steel IBT
Found New Viedma
Attack a redlined Cav next to our borders with 4/4 cav, and Justo appears.
I make another Army
I redline all the 12 units inside our lands
I loose a 5/5 cav attacking a redlined cav
kill all the intruding units
redline 3 vet and a conscript inf in Akwesasne (aztec capital)
cavalry army crosses river and kills 2 cavs
2 knight armies kills the last 2 inf, and we raze the city
get 5 slaves and a cannon
Aztec capital jumps to the Domican Republic
with just 2 size 12 and 2 size 7 cities left on the main land as their biggest cites, the aztecs should not be much of a threat any more
However i want to close off the borders towards Aztecs so they cant send units deep inside our lands..
so I settle New San Luis
I capture an aztec worker by the border
IBT:
I loose 2 infantery in a massive iroquois attack on Miami.. but the city holds with a 2 hp rifle as top defender
France and India signs a MPP
india and venezuela signs peace
babylon and songhai signs peace
Cordoba: Gaucho -> Gaucho
Panama Canal: Court -> Aqueduct
Bariloche: settler -> Gaucho
Porto Alegre: Settler -> settler
Bahia Blancho: stock exchange -> Guacho
Goiania: Gaucho -> gaucho
Santiago Del Estro: Cathedral -> Guacho
El Matanza: market -> factory
Resistencia: Cathedral -> gaucho
Santa Rosa: Temple -> Gaucho
1395AD, turn 4:
redline 11 iroquois units in our lands
kill all the iroquois units, loosing a 4/4 guacho
redline 2 infantery and a cav in St Louis.. it sis size 3 and no expanded borders, so I plan to capture it
2 armies kills all the defenders
1 aztec and one american citizen.. the aztec one is resisting
kill 4 aztec units
I decide to sell Steel to babylon and greece before they buy it from someone else
get WM and 3326gold from babylon
and Wm and 2659gold from greece
We are now number 1 in cities, territory and population.. however only venezuela has less culture than us
IBT:
Australia and china signs peace
Persia and Germany ally vs Iroquois
egypt and Russia embargos us
Aztecs lands 2 units
Buenos Aires: Gaucho -> Gaucho
Posadas: court -> temple
Miami: worker -> worker
Santa Fe: Coal Plant -> Gaucho
Reconquista: Settler -> settler
Avellaneda: Cathedral -> Gaucho
Parana: Factory -> rifle
Iron Works: Factory -> Palace (MA prebuild)
1400AD, turn 5:
redline several units and kill with all the elites.. but no leader
kill 5 defenders and capture size 1 boston (I thought it would autoraze.. but since it doesnt I can use it to push borders back)
The single citizen is aztec.. the town was iroquois and an original american city.. so this surpriced me a bit
I move up 2 settlers.. but if I disband boston, they will be in American territory.. so I will have to declare on america first
I will use armies to kill off unhurt infantery invaders before they loose army bonus
I kill off almost all units inside our lands (just some redlined infantery left)
call up America and gift Mendoza to them
I then give them Communism for WM and 203gold (they would throw in 15gpt too.. but I plan to declare on them)
This should make them have 2 turns of anarchy
I then declare war on America
I recapture undefended Mendoza with a hurt cav
hmm.. it didnt drop from size 2 to 1 when captured? it is still size 2 with 2 resistors.. oh well
It still has market, bank, granary, factory and coal plant
set to rebuild temple
IW starts MA due in 6 turns
I abandon Boston
Found New Santiago del Estero
Found New La Matanza
found New Neuquen
move a settler into position to push back more american borders
cover all units.. rail and clear jungle
IBT:
Greece and Babylon signs peace
trade embarge against us between babylon and america ends
zulus want straight up peace... they will actually pay us 123gold.. I dont see the point in signing peace till the MPP ends thou
babylon and Venezuela signs peace
loose an infantery in defse at St. Luois.. really happy we can grab rubber next turn so we can upgrade our rifles
Germany and Persia ally vs us
Concordia: settler -> settler
Rosario: Coal plant -> Gaucho
Campo Grande: court -> temple
Viedma: Gaucho -> gaucho
A lot of work, but I go through all cities and MM.. I shave off a turn on research on Espionage
Factory in IW goes from 6 to 5 turns by switching tiles
Shave off a turn in several cities, others I MM so they grow a turn or two faster where that is allowed by happiness
I notice that Tucuman can build Wall street in 4 turns if it builds police station first.. since we have no immediate need for wall street, and we will want police station in that town anyway, I switch the wall street build to PS.
We have almost no cities building military.
I understand the need for rifles/infantery, but at the moment we need more Gaucho's bad too..
Dont dont have immediate need for defense in coastal cities except for MP, since marines is not around yet.. so I switch Buenos aires and Cordoba to cavs.. they will get back to rifles again a few turns
China has no gpt available, so no point in stealing combustion atm except to see what else india has
over to the front:
I am not comfortable having our settler stack that close to a high fli risk city.. so I move them back a few tiles
I move the Artillery stack towards Tzintzunzen, cover it with a knight army
move cav and 2 more knight armies up
IBT:
Australia and babylon ally vs mongols..
babylon and iroquois ally vs aztecs
babylon and india ally vs egypt
germany and america ally vs australia... I cantwait to eliminate some more nations..
iroquois and mongols ally vs us!
Buenos Aires: Guacho -> guacho
All Barracks: Worker -> temple
Concordia: settler -> settler
New Cordoba: worker -> court
Catamarca: aqueduct -> court
1380AD, turn 1:
lots of worker action
bombard an aztec cav and kill with elite cav, no leader
move up units
IBT:
trade embargo vs us between france and babylon ends
Persia and iroquois ally vs india (persia declares on india.. possible new MPP war)
songhai and germany sign peace
Greece wants to sell us their Wm for replaceable parts.. yeah, right..
Persia and mongols sign peace
venezuela and songhai makes peace
greece and russia signs trade embargo vs us
trade embargo vs us between greeca and iroquois ends
Persia triggers the MPP..
All Barracks flips again.. taking a Guerilla with it
Cordoba: Guacho -> Guacho
I scroll ahead to prevent ant riots due to the loss of ivory.. hmm.. we are actually more happy now than last turn.. declaring on persia must have brought back war happiness from first war or something
its not all cities thou.. some needs fixing
Mendoza: settler -> worker
Viedma: Cath -> Guacho
Formosa: worker -> settler
1385AD, turn 2:
redline regular rifle defender in All Barracks
recapture All Barracks
redline 3 infantery and a cav in Tzintzuntzen
kill first inf with 4/4 guacho.. promotes
4/4 guacho kills next inf
4/4 guacho kills next inf
4/4 guacho kills cav defender, and raze the town get 8 slaves (including a russian one)
Guacho army kills inf defdender in Tula.. drops to 4 hp..
knight army kills another inf
2nd knight army kills the 3rd inf, and a cav shows up top
11hp knight army kills the cav and raze Tula.. get 5 slaves
cultural borders opens up a lot.. so I decide to go after the aztec capital next to move it further away from from smiths and All Barracks since artillery can bombard it next turn
found New Avellaneda
found New Parana
I could attack the aztec capital this turn by founding a temporary city.. but instead i decide to wait one turn and found a permanent city instead
redline and kill an aztec cav.. and get a leader:
3 turns till the factory in Iron Works finish, and I have lots of elites.. so I decide to make another cav army
redline 2 inf and three cavs in Miami
kill them all
Miami is just size 3 and aztecs has no expanded borders yet.. so it is prolly mostkly American city still.. so I capture it
Yes.. all 3 citizens are American.. no resistors
aztecs is without both iron and saltpeter now.. so horses are the only fast units they can build now
redline an aztec cav and kill it with 4/5 guacho, no leader
redline 2 iroquios cavs
lots of worker movements and careful placement of armies and infantery to cover all workers, artillery and cities
IBT:
trade embargo vs us between egypt and aztecs ends
Some iroquoi cavs move up next to All Barracks
Songhai and Germany allies vs Iroquois
babylon and india ally vs zulus
songhai has attacked india.. so we have to declare
trade embargo against us vs greece and mongols ends
China and aztecs sign peace
Since the army wall is moved several aztec cavs and infantery enters our lands
Buenos Aires: guacho -> guacho
mendoza: worker -> wealth
Tucuman: Police station -> wall street
New Tucuman: worker -> worker
Bariloche: factory -> settler
Horse Town: Settler -> settler
1390AD, turn 3:
China has combustion now
Looks like Aztecs picked up both refining and steel IBT
Found New Viedma
Attack a redlined Cav next to our borders with 4/4 cav, and Justo appears.
I make another Army
I redline all the 12 units inside our lands
I loose a 5/5 cav attacking a redlined cav
kill all the intruding units
redline 3 vet and a conscript inf in Akwesasne (aztec capital)
cavalry army crosses river and kills 2 cavs
2 knight armies kills the last 2 inf, and we raze the city
get 5 slaves and a cannon
Aztec capital jumps to the Domican Republic
with just 2 size 12 and 2 size 7 cities left on the main land as their biggest cites, the aztecs should not be much of a threat any more
However i want to close off the borders towards Aztecs so they cant send units deep inside our lands..
so I settle New San Luis
I capture an aztec worker by the border
IBT:
I loose 2 infantery in a massive iroquois attack on Miami.. but the city holds with a 2 hp rifle as top defender
France and India signs a MPP
india and venezuela signs peace
babylon and songhai signs peace
Cordoba: Gaucho -> Gaucho
Panama Canal: Court -> Aqueduct
Bariloche: settler -> Gaucho
Porto Alegre: Settler -> settler
Bahia Blancho: stock exchange -> Guacho
Goiania: Gaucho -> gaucho
Santiago Del Estro: Cathedral -> Guacho
El Matanza: market -> factory
Resistencia: Cathedral -> gaucho
Santa Rosa: Temple -> Gaucho
1395AD, turn 4:
redline 11 iroquois units in our lands
kill all the iroquois units, loosing a 4/4 guacho
redline 2 infantery and a cav in St Louis.. it sis size 3 and no expanded borders, so I plan to capture it
2 armies kills all the defenders
1 aztec and one american citizen.. the aztec one is resisting
kill 4 aztec units
I decide to sell Steel to babylon and greece before they buy it from someone else
get WM and 3326gold from babylon
and Wm and 2659gold from greece
We are now number 1 in cities, territory and population.. however only venezuela has less culture than us
IBT:
Australia and china signs peace
Persia and Germany ally vs Iroquois
egypt and Russia embargos us
Aztecs lands 2 units
Buenos Aires: Gaucho -> Gaucho
Posadas: court -> temple
Miami: worker -> worker
Santa Fe: Coal Plant -> Gaucho
Reconquista: Settler -> settler
Avellaneda: Cathedral -> Gaucho
Parana: Factory -> rifle
Iron Works: Factory -> Palace (MA prebuild)
1400AD, turn 5:
redline several units and kill with all the elites.. but no leader
kill 5 defenders and capture size 1 boston (I thought it would autoraze.. but since it doesnt I can use it to push borders back)
The single citizen is aztec.. the town was iroquois and an original american city.. so this surpriced me a bit
I move up 2 settlers.. but if I disband boston, they will be in American territory.. so I will have to declare on america first
I will use armies to kill off unhurt infantery invaders before they loose army bonus
I kill off almost all units inside our lands (just some redlined infantery left)
call up America and gift Mendoza to them
I then give them Communism for WM and 203gold (they would throw in 15gpt too.. but I plan to declare on them)
This should make them have 2 turns of anarchy
I then declare war on America
I recapture undefended Mendoza with a hurt cav
hmm.. it didnt drop from size 2 to 1 when captured? it is still size 2 with 2 resistors.. oh well
It still has market, bank, granary, factory and coal plant
set to rebuild temple
IW starts MA due in 6 turns
I abandon Boston
Found New Santiago del Estero
Found New La Matanza
found New Neuquen
move a settler into position to push back more american borders
cover all units.. rail and clear jungle
IBT:
Greece and Babylon signs peace
trade embarge against us between babylon and america ends
zulus want straight up peace... they will actually pay us 123gold.. I dont see the point in signing peace till the MPP ends thou
babylon and Venezuela signs peace
loose an infantery in defse at St. Luois.. really happy we can grab rubber next turn so we can upgrade our rifles
Germany and Persia ally vs us
Concordia: settler -> settler
Rosario: Coal plant -> Gaucho
Campo Grande: court -> temple
Viedma: Gaucho -> gaucho
1405AD, turn 6:
I realize I can use the MA as a prebuild for CIA in Buenos Aires and can that way get CIA just 2 turns after research completes
Switch Iron works to palace
Buenos Aires to MA
found New Bariloche
as expected, america is in anarchy
Redline a rifle that is blocking road.. and this happens when I kill it:
There goes my plan for prebuilding CIA.. I swap Buenus Aires to Hospital and Iron works back to MA to rush it.. on 2nd thought.. I switch Iron works to Collosseum which will complete next turn, and I will rush the MA next turn
I load the 2 *gaucho and 2 4/4 gaucho into the empty army from before
redline 5 rifles in washington
3 knight armies kills the 5 rifles and a longbow, and captures a settler in the town:
we now have ToA and pyramids
I redline 2 rifles in New York
kill both with a cav army and capture New York along with rubber and a treb
I upgrade the treb
redline 2 rifles in atlanta
kill them with 2 MDI armies.. and capture Atlanta with a cannon and a worker
kill american musket-settler pair
kill an american rifle so we dont have to protect a lot of units next to it
upgrade 43 rifles to infantery
IBT:
Aztecs and China ally vs Persia
heh.. iroquois cav kills an aztec rifle inside our lands
Persia declares on egypt
china and india ally vs iroquois
trade embardgo between china and iroquois ends
russia wants peace.. I wait for the MPP to end
china and aztecs ally vs mongols (china declares on mongols)
aztecs kill the iroquois cav that killed they cav.. and loose a cav doing it
Babylon and Persia embargos us
babylon and persia ally vs russia
Cordoba: Gaucho -> Gaucho
New Santa Fe: Temple -> aqueduct
Santa Fe: Gaucho -> Gaucho
Tucuman: Wall street -> Guacho
Santiago del Estero: Gaucho -> Gaucho
Ushuaia: Temple -> galleon
Buenos Dias: Aqueduct -> market
Iron Works: Collosseum -> MA
Mar del Plata: worker -> worker
India declares on America (dunno why.. I never saw anything that would trigger the MPP)
1410AD, turn 7:
I ship silks and 69gpt to china for spices and incense
lux goes to 0%, and sci to 90%.. espionage in 2 instead of 3
I switch Tucuman to Palace as CIA prebuild
rush the MA in Iron Works
start by redlining an inf that is blocking railroads
kill with 5/5 cav, no leader
redline and kill 2 more infantery
cav army kills 2 rifles in San Fransisco.. and capture the city
cav army kills single rifle in Chicago.. and capture it
hmm.. americans are still alive... I look around and see an american settler pair.. and:
redline 3 infantery in seattle.. kill them with 2 armies.. and raze seattle.. get 5 slaves
settle New Resistencia
redline 2 inf and a cav in Teayo
kill them and raze Teayo.. get 2 slaves
kill some redlined.. attack with a 5/5 infantery (since I need s defender on the tile I attack from anyway).. and another leader appears.. I make an army
I redline a bunch of units in range.. then kill them all
I settle New Rawson to fill in a big culture hole to make defense easier since enemy units cant use rails
move up 3 combat settlers with escorts to settle next turn
IBT:
embargo between egypt and Greece ends
songhai and Babylon ally vs russia
india and babylon allies vs china (sign.. there goes the lux deal i guess)
australia and china ally vs babylon
we loose luxes due to having to declare on china
Doh.. a sword army had gotten too low in HP, so it is attacked and killed
egypt and iroquois sign peace
venezuela wants peace.. so I can use the advisor to adjust lux tax to 20%
This is funny.. we havent touched venezueka in the last war, but they are still willing to give up 2 cities
I dont make peace thou
Tigre: Temple -> court
Buenos Aires: Hospital -> Gaucho
New La Plata: Temple -> court
Bariloche: Gaucho -> Gaucho
Bahia Blanca: Gaucho -> Hospital
Goiania: Gaucho -> Gaucho
Avellaneda: Gaucho -> Gaucho
Tandil: Court -> market
Resistencia: Gaucho -> Gaucho
Iron Works: MA -> Army (SPHQ prebuild)
size 1 Miami riots due to the loss of luxes
1415AD, turn 8:
Found New Comodoro Rivadavia
Found New Catamarca
Found New Posadas
redline 4 infantery in Tamuin (one of the 2 aztec size 12 cities left on mainland)
kill them (loosing 2 4/4 cavs)
a redlined cav shows as top defender
kill the cav with 5/5 cav and raze the city gaining 2 artillery and 14 slaves (was a lot of them in the city)
This also took away the last aztec horses and coal..
oh.. yeah.. I took away the iroquois horses last turn too.. because their are selling away their last source
redline 4 infantery in Kahnawake (iroq)
kill them with 2 armies and raze the city.. get 7 slaves
found New Formosa
hurt 4 infantery in iroq Allegheny (yellow or redlined)
kill them all and raze the town.. get 12 slaves
last iroquois horses is now outside their territory
settle New Tandil
capture a lone aztec worker
send in 2 settlers into iroq lands to push back borders
lots of worker actions, plus protecting exposed units and cities
IBT:
Mongols and babylon sign peace
Australia wants to trade territory maps.. I throw in 47gold and get their updated world map
babylon and india ally vs Persia
trade embargo between babylon and persia ends
Espionage comes in. I set research to atomic theory for now (max research is 33 turns so I only hire a scientist)
Viedma: Gaucho -> gaucho
Buenos Noches: Court -> market
Catamarca: court -> market
I realize I can use the MA as a prebuild for CIA in Buenos Aires and can that way get CIA just 2 turns after research completes
Switch Iron works to palace
Buenos Aires to MA
found New Bariloche
as expected, america is in anarchy
Redline a rifle that is blocking road.. and this happens when I kill it:
There goes my plan for prebuilding CIA.. I swap Buenus Aires to Hospital and Iron works back to MA to rush it.. on 2nd thought.. I switch Iron works to Collosseum which will complete next turn, and I will rush the MA next turn
I load the 2 *gaucho and 2 4/4 gaucho into the empty army from before
redline 5 rifles in washington
3 knight armies kills the 5 rifles and a longbow, and captures a settler in the town:
we now have ToA and pyramids
I redline 2 rifles in New York
kill both with a cav army and capture New York along with rubber and a treb
I upgrade the treb
redline 2 rifles in atlanta
kill them with 2 MDI armies.. and capture Atlanta with a cannon and a worker
kill american musket-settler pair
kill an american rifle so we dont have to protect a lot of units next to it
upgrade 43 rifles to infantery
IBT:
Aztecs and China ally vs Persia
heh.. iroquois cav kills an aztec rifle inside our lands
Persia declares on egypt
china and india ally vs iroquois
trade embardgo between china and iroquois ends
russia wants peace.. I wait for the MPP to end
china and aztecs ally vs mongols (china declares on mongols)
aztecs kill the iroquois cav that killed they cav.. and loose a cav doing it
Babylon and Persia embargos us
babylon and persia ally vs russia
Cordoba: Gaucho -> Gaucho
New Santa Fe: Temple -> aqueduct
Santa Fe: Gaucho -> Gaucho
Tucuman: Wall street -> Guacho
Santiago del Estero: Gaucho -> Gaucho
Ushuaia: Temple -> galleon
Buenos Dias: Aqueduct -> market
Iron Works: Collosseum -> MA
Mar del Plata: worker -> worker
India declares on America (dunno why.. I never saw anything that would trigger the MPP)
1410AD, turn 7:
I ship silks and 69gpt to china for spices and incense
lux goes to 0%, and sci to 90%.. espionage in 2 instead of 3
I switch Tucuman to Palace as CIA prebuild
rush the MA in Iron Works
start by redlining an inf that is blocking railroads
kill with 5/5 cav, no leader
redline and kill 2 more infantery
cav army kills 2 rifles in San Fransisco.. and capture the city
cav army kills single rifle in Chicago.. and capture it
hmm.. americans are still alive... I look around and see an american settler pair.. and:
redline 3 infantery in seattle.. kill them with 2 armies.. and raze seattle.. get 5 slaves
settle New Resistencia
redline 2 inf and a cav in Teayo
kill them and raze Teayo.. get 2 slaves
kill some redlined.. attack with a 5/5 infantery (since I need s defender on the tile I attack from anyway).. and another leader appears.. I make an army
I redline a bunch of units in range.. then kill them all
I settle New Rawson to fill in a big culture hole to make defense easier since enemy units cant use rails
move up 3 combat settlers with escorts to settle next turn
IBT:
embargo between egypt and Greece ends
songhai and Babylon ally vs russia
india and babylon allies vs china (sign.. there goes the lux deal i guess)
australia and china ally vs babylon
we loose luxes due to having to declare on china
Doh.. a sword army had gotten too low in HP, so it is attacked and killed
egypt and iroquois sign peace
venezuela wants peace.. so I can use the advisor to adjust lux tax to 20%
This is funny.. we havent touched venezueka in the last war, but they are still willing to give up 2 cities
I dont make peace thou
Tigre: Temple -> court
Buenos Aires: Hospital -> Gaucho
New La Plata: Temple -> court
Bariloche: Gaucho -> Gaucho
Bahia Blanca: Gaucho -> Hospital
Goiania: Gaucho -> Gaucho
Avellaneda: Gaucho -> Gaucho
Tandil: Court -> market
Resistencia: Gaucho -> Gaucho
Iron Works: MA -> Army (SPHQ prebuild)
size 1 Miami riots due to the loss of luxes
1415AD, turn 8:
Found New Comodoro Rivadavia
Found New Catamarca
Found New Posadas
redline 4 infantery in Tamuin (one of the 2 aztec size 12 cities left on mainland)
kill them (loosing 2 4/4 cavs)
a redlined cav shows as top defender
kill the cav with 5/5 cav and raze the city gaining 2 artillery and 14 slaves (was a lot of them in the city)
This also took away the last aztec horses and coal..
oh.. yeah.. I took away the iroquois horses last turn too.. because their are selling away their last source
redline 4 infantery in Kahnawake (iroq)
kill them with 2 armies and raze the city.. get 7 slaves
found New Formosa
hurt 4 infantery in iroq Allegheny (yellow or redlined)
kill them all and raze the town.. get 12 slaves
last iroquois horses is now outside their territory
settle New Tandil
capture a lone aztec worker
send in 2 settlers into iroq lands to push back borders
lots of worker actions, plus protecting exposed units and cities
IBT:
Mongols and babylon sign peace
Australia wants to trade territory maps.. I throw in 47gold and get their updated world map
babylon and india ally vs Persia
trade embargo between babylon and persia ends
Espionage comes in. I set research to atomic theory for now (max research is 33 turns so I only hire a scientist)
Viedma: Gaucho -> gaucho
Buenos Noches: Court -> market
Catamarca: court -> market
1420AD, turn 9:
Switch Tucuman to CIA
Switch Irown Works to SPHQ
Settle New Concordia
redline iroq rifle and infantery that is blocking rails
kill them with 2 elites.. no leaders
redline 4 infantery in Niagara Falls
cav army kills the first 2 units
a 2nd cav army kills the last 2 defenders, and raz the town
get 11 more slaves and an artillery
redline 2 defenders in size 2 detroit (Iroq)
I plan to capture and abandon it so I can reach Tonawanda this turn too
loose a 4/4 gaucho, but 2 more capture the town
I sell off all the improvements for 65gold
bring up a settler and abandon Detroit
Found New Reconquista
redline 3 infantery in Tonawanda (iroq)
kill the defenders with 2 knight armies.. raze it.. get 5 slaves
bring up a settler and found New Santa Rosa One tile east..
Found New Tigre.. this will give as dyes as soon as workers connect them next turn
Wow.. I see an unescorted Iroquois settler
kill a rifle and an inf and capture 2 workers with hurt armies before they go to heal
sword army kills the iroq settler
bombards venezuelan mdi and 2 LB
kill with 3 elites.. no leaders
redline and kill iroq inf in annoying spot
the normal movement and make sure all artillery and workers and cities are protected unless they are outside range of all units
since we are making lots of cash.. and have a huge reserve, I raise lux to 30% so I can fire some specialists
IBT:
Germany and france embargos us
France and India allies vs Iroquois
Greece declares on Egypt
Australia lands some units in neutral lands (we are not at war with them)
Songhai lands a cav in our lands
Watch aztecs and iroquois fight
Buenos Aires: Infantery -> infantery
Cordoba: Gaucho -> Gaucho
Argh.. New La Plata flips to Aztecs.. and it was just 1 turn away from culture expansion I think
Concordia: settler -> settler
Reconquista: settler -> settler
La Plata: Cathedral -> Gaucho
Porto Alegre: settler -> settler
Parana: Infantery -> infantery
Santigo del Estero: Gaucho -> Gaucho
Santa Rosa: Gaucho -> Gaucho
Buenos Dias: Settler -> settler
comodoro Rivadavia: court -> settler
1425AD, turn 10:
according to the trade screen iroquois has 8 workers for sale.. how nice since I intend to race their capital this turn
settle New Ushuaia
connect dyes
kill a rifle in New La Plata and recapture the town
redline 2 infantery and 2 rifles in Salamanca
kill the top 3 defenders with 2 armies
loose a 4/4 cav, but kill last defender with the 2nd cav
raze Salamanca with Oracle (worthless except for the Tourism)
get 13 slaves and 2 cannons
redline 4 infantery in Philadelphia
2 knight armies kill them all.. raze the city.. get 5 workers
Settle Buenos Aires 2 and Cordoba 2
kill the cav the songhais landed while I remember
redline 4 inf in Grand River
cav army kills first 2 units
4/4 cav kills next unit
5/5 cav kills last unit and raze Grand river
get 5 slaves and 2 artillery
hurt 4 infantery in Mauch Chunk
kill top 2 defenders with a cav army
mdi/sword army kills the last 2 redlined infantery.. raze city.. get 5 workers and 2 artillery
use 2 infantery and capture 3 more slaves
We are now at 83 native workers and 255 slaves (78 native and 135 slaves at beginning of my turns)
There are a few spread iroquois infantery inside our borders.. most of them are right west of washington
I have yet to see infantery attack fully healed infanteries in either cities or onflat ground
Do not move the movable armies with full moves left in the inherited turn.. several of them will heal up in ine IBT if not moved
I was using Bahia Blanca as a staging point.. so hurt units are mainly healing there (unless they ended up a place where a city was buildt ontop of them)
Bad part is I was using up settlers faster than I was producing them, so next player only have 3 settlers available at beginning of turn.. however most of the remaining cities in north america is tundra towns now
Australia landed a settler pair next to horses on the west coast.. if you like you can settle on the horses to avoid them building a town there
you can move a settler to NW,NW,W or SE,SE,S or SE,S,S of Centralia to settle there next turn to get that city in artillery range.. after that town is gone we would have no culture pressure, and could make peace with iroquois if they like.. the rest of their lands is pretty much just tundra.
Iroquois has a city in scotland, so we cant easilly elliminate them sadly
Take out the Aztec island city of Cempoala asap.. it has huge culture pressure on New La Plata and San Fransisco..
Easiest is prolly to let the galleon in San Fransisco complete, then steal combustion and upgrade it to transport and ship a couple armies over
Dont forget to Cancel the MPP with india (unless you want to keep if up untill you plant spy and steal techs)
Some of the cities in North america is buildt a bit tight, but I did not want to disband them yet so the Ais would be able to use roads and rails in neutral territory
Oh yeah.. I more or less emptied south america of infantery.. Marines is not around yet (only china and india has combustion yet, and there is no way china should have gotten marines so fast)
I needed all the infantery I could to cover the long fronts in north america
we have more than 80k gold.. the richest AI is india with 1225gold..
SPHQ will complete in the first IBT.. which should fix some of the growing corruption I was getting due to all the new cities
CIA will complete in 3 turns
Note I did not MM in the last turn.. so you can do that.. or wait till after the SPHQ completes.
Tech Situation:
North America:
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Switch Tucuman to CIA
Switch Irown Works to SPHQ
Settle New Concordia
redline iroq rifle and infantery that is blocking rails
kill them with 2 elites.. no leaders
redline 4 infantery in Niagara Falls
cav army kills the first 2 units
a 2nd cav army kills the last 2 defenders, and raz the town
get 11 more slaves and an artillery
redline 2 defenders in size 2 detroit (Iroq)
I plan to capture and abandon it so I can reach Tonawanda this turn too
loose a 4/4 gaucho, but 2 more capture the town
I sell off all the improvements for 65gold
bring up a settler and abandon Detroit
Found New Reconquista
redline 3 infantery in Tonawanda (iroq)
kill the defenders with 2 knight armies.. raze it.. get 5 slaves
bring up a settler and found New Santa Rosa One tile east..
Found New Tigre.. this will give as dyes as soon as workers connect them next turn
Wow.. I see an unescorted Iroquois settler
kill a rifle and an inf and capture 2 workers with hurt armies before they go to heal
sword army kills the iroq settler
bombards venezuelan mdi and 2 LB
kill with 3 elites.. no leaders
redline and kill iroq inf in annoying spot
the normal movement and make sure all artillery and workers and cities are protected unless they are outside range of all units
since we are making lots of cash.. and have a huge reserve, I raise lux to 30% so I can fire some specialists
IBT:
Germany and france embargos us
France and India allies vs Iroquois
Greece declares on Egypt
Australia lands some units in neutral lands (we are not at war with them)
Songhai lands a cav in our lands
Watch aztecs and iroquois fight
Buenos Aires: Infantery -> infantery
Cordoba: Gaucho -> Gaucho
Argh.. New La Plata flips to Aztecs.. and it was just 1 turn away from culture expansion I think
Concordia: settler -> settler
Reconquista: settler -> settler
La Plata: Cathedral -> Gaucho
Porto Alegre: settler -> settler
Parana: Infantery -> infantery
Santigo del Estero: Gaucho -> Gaucho
Santa Rosa: Gaucho -> Gaucho
Buenos Dias: Settler -> settler
comodoro Rivadavia: court -> settler
1425AD, turn 10:
according to the trade screen iroquois has 8 workers for sale.. how nice since I intend to race their capital this turn
settle New Ushuaia
connect dyes
kill a rifle in New La Plata and recapture the town
redline 2 infantery and 2 rifles in Salamanca
kill the top 3 defenders with 2 armies
loose a 4/4 cav, but kill last defender with the 2nd cav
raze Salamanca with Oracle (worthless except for the Tourism)
get 13 slaves and 2 cannons
redline 4 infantery in Philadelphia
2 knight armies kill them all.. raze the city.. get 5 workers
Settle Buenos Aires 2 and Cordoba 2
kill the cav the songhais landed while I remember
redline 4 inf in Grand River
cav army kills first 2 units
4/4 cav kills next unit
5/5 cav kills last unit and raze Grand river
get 5 slaves and 2 artillery
hurt 4 infantery in Mauch Chunk
kill top 2 defenders with a cav army
mdi/sword army kills the last 2 redlined infantery.. raze city.. get 5 workers and 2 artillery
use 2 infantery and capture 3 more slaves
We are now at 83 native workers and 255 slaves (78 native and 135 slaves at beginning of my turns)
There are a few spread iroquois infantery inside our borders.. most of them are right west of washington
I have yet to see infantery attack fully healed infanteries in either cities or onflat ground
Do not move the movable armies with full moves left in the inherited turn.. several of them will heal up in ine IBT if not moved
I was using Bahia Blanca as a staging point.. so hurt units are mainly healing there (unless they ended up a place where a city was buildt ontop of them)
Bad part is I was using up settlers faster than I was producing them, so next player only have 3 settlers available at beginning of turn.. however most of the remaining cities in north america is tundra towns now
Australia landed a settler pair next to horses on the west coast.. if you like you can settle on the horses to avoid them building a town there
you can move a settler to NW,NW,W or SE,SE,S or SE,S,S of Centralia to settle there next turn to get that city in artillery range.. after that town is gone we would have no culture pressure, and could make peace with iroquois if they like.. the rest of their lands is pretty much just tundra.
Iroquois has a city in scotland, so we cant easilly elliminate them sadly
Take out the Aztec island city of Cempoala asap.. it has huge culture pressure on New La Plata and San Fransisco..
Easiest is prolly to let the galleon in San Fransisco complete, then steal combustion and upgrade it to transport and ship a couple armies over
Dont forget to Cancel the MPP with india (unless you want to keep if up untill you plant spy and steal techs)
Some of the cities in North america is buildt a bit tight, but I did not want to disband them yet so the Ais would be able to use roads and rails in neutral territory
Oh yeah.. I more or less emptied south america of infantery.. Marines is not around yet (only china and india has combustion yet, and there is no way china should have gotten marines so fast)
I needed all the infantery I could to cover the long fronts in north america
we have more than 80k gold.. the richest AI is india with 1225gold..
SPHQ will complete in the first IBT.. which should fix some of the growing corruption I was getting due to all the new cities
CIA will complete in 3 turns
Note I did not MM in the last turn.. so you can do that.. or wait till after the SPHQ completes.
Tech Situation:
North America:
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Glad to see we have actually killed a civ. With America gone the Pyramids are locked in for us. 
I can't wait until we have 3 natural luxuries from this continent.
While I haven't look at the game, the report gives me the impression it is time to start building a navy for the shuttle between Alaska and Siberia. It will take awhile to put this together.
Signed up:
LKendter
Gyathaar
Microbe (currently playing)
M60A3TTS (on deck)
Romeothemonk (skip until June 20)
Greebley
Remember 5 to 10 turns per round - STRICT 24 hours got it, total 48 hours to at complete. Once the game starts dragging 48 hours to at least report a status update.
This game continues to be a royal pain to import luxuries...
I can't wait until we have 3 natural luxuries from this continent.
I love seeing this level of worker gain. The front is moving so fast I suspect a lot of workers are tied up in rail-net to the front.
I would capture the small Tundra cities.
While I haven't look at the game, the report gives me the impression it is time to start building a navy for the shuttle between Alaska and Siberia. It will take awhile to put this together.
Signed up:
LKendter
Gyathaar
Microbe (currently playing)
M60A3TTS (on deck)
Romeothemonk (skip until June 20)
Greebley
Remember 5 to 10 turns per round - STRICT 24 hours got it, total 48 hours to at complete. Once the game starts dragging 48 hours to at least report a status update.
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