Lockerbie guy - when is he going to kick the bucket?

When will he be dead by?

  • Thanksgiving

    Votes: 5 9.1%

  • Hogmanay

    Votes: 2 3.6%

  • Burning of the Clavie

    Votes: 2 3.6%

  • Up-Helly-aa

    Votes: 4 7.3%

  • Burn's Night

    Votes: 2 3.6%

  • Whuppity Scoorie

    Votes: 2 3.6%

  • Beltane's Day

    Votes: 1 1.8%

  • Braemar Gethering

    Votes: 2 3.6%

  • He will become immortal

    Votes: 35 63.6%
  • Total voters
    55
The point you continue to completely miss is that whether or not he is going to "live happily ever after" doesn't even enter into the equation. So you can stop with the completely absurd strawmen. :lol:

Disagree with some US foreign policy and you are "anti-American". Find it humorous that "law and order" reactionaries get so upset over some supposed miscarriages of justice while completely ignoring others and you are "pro-terrorist". :lol:
 
Formaldehyde said:
The point you continue to completely miss is that whether or not he is going to "live happily ever after" doesn't even enter into the equation. So you can stop with the completely absurd strawmen. :lol:
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I think he is going to live much happier ever after in the villa bought for him and his family by the Libyan government as opposed to the prison he was in.

Or do you want to argue that as well?
 
Formaldehyde said:
Yeah. They attacked on 9/11 because they hate your collective freedom. :lol:

I really don't care much either way about this dude, but I have to admit it gives me great pleasure watching all the "law and order" reactionaries get so irate over this supposed travesty of justice while blithely ignoring so many others. Let's see you raise a big stink about Lt. William Calley, for one, much less all the other US war criminals who received little or no punishment whatsoever. Or does your enmity only extend to those whom you want revenge instead of actual justice? :lol:
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Again, how would you feel if a plane with your family in it was blown? Would it please you to have the guy go free?

To MobBoss: I am glad to have someone here like you. A sensible person who knows right from wrong.
 
Skwink Caesar said:
Again, how would you feel if a plane with your family in it was blown? Would it please you to have the guy go free?
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Funny you should say that.

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE57J4SS20090820?pageNumber=2&virtualBrandChannel=11611

While the relatives of many American victims were convinced of Megrahi's guilt, the families of many of the Britons killed have questioned the quality of the evidence used to convict him, and some have campaigned for his release to die back in Libya.

"I am delighted. I don't think he had anything to do with it and I think he was effectively framed," Jim Swire, whose daughter Flora died in the bombing, told Reuters.
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Formaldehyde said:
If Megrahi gives so much apoplexy to so many ultraconservatives, may he live a long time.
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I don't care how much apoplexy he gives conservatives, may he rot in hell. The guy is a sick mass murderer.

But I too hope he does live a long time, in horrific pain and agony. Death is too good for him.
 
Skwink Caesar said:
Again, how would you feel if a plane with your family in it was blown? Would it please you to have the guy go free?
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The captain of the Vincennes walked free.

It is widely believed that Lockerbie was revenge for the shooting down of the airbus.
 
Skwink Caesar said:
That changes nothing about my question. The person I am arguing with is happy this murderer is going free. I would like to know what he would think if a man killed his family. Besides, if the page stated that everyone was not convinced, that would be way different. The Americans and jury decided he was guilty.
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The Americans are irrelevant to this case.
 
Skwink Caesar said:
That changes nothing about my question. The person I am arguing with is happy this murderer is going free. I would like to know what he would think if a man killed his family.
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Right, you are interested in what someone would think if a guy killed his family.
Besides, if the page stated that everyone was not convinced, that would be way different. The Americans and jury decided he was guilty.
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Ah cool. So who cares about the family of the victims who think he was framed right? Only the family of the victims who are, like you, convinced he was guilty are worth considering ...because they share your point of view.
 
Well that argument is about how that guy is happy that a murderer is going free because it makes conservatives angry. Also, the bomber was convicted. That means he was found guilty. So the Scottish gov't is letting a convict go free.
 
Ziggy Stardust said:
So who cares about the family of the victims who think he was framed right? Only the family of the victims who are, like you, convinced he was guilty are worth considering ...because they share your point of view.
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The families' opinions on his guilt/innocence are no more relevant than any random persons opinion. They're not witnesses, and they're not experts. Even if they were the plaintiffs (which they aren't; society in the form of "the people" or "the crown" is the plaintiff) they still wouldn't have the right, or the qualifications, to pass judgement.

The law isn't for the benefit of the victims; it isn't there to exact revenge on their behalf. It's there to protect society, and the victims do not have the right to waive that protection.
 
frekk said:
The families' opinions on his guilt/innocence are no more relevant than any random persons opinion. They're not witnesses, and they're not experts. Even if they were the plaintiffs (which they aren't; society in the form of "the people" or "the crown" is the plaintiff) they still wouldn't have the right, or the qualifications, to pass judgement.

The law isn't for the benefit of the victims; it isn't there to exact revenge on their behalf. It's there to protect society, and the victims do not have the right to waive that protection.
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Does it help protect society if a convicted terrorist is let free?
 
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