Lockerbie guy - when is he going to kick the bucket?

[Skwink]

Every day that goes by without his crime being duplicated by someone else tends to deflate your point there.

He is a convicted criminal. He belongs in jail. He killed about 200 people.

 

[Ziggy Stardust]

He is a convicted criminal.

Yes he is.

He belongs in jail.

He sure does.

He killed about 200 people.

See, and there is where it gets icky when a review board ruled in 2007 that there might have been a miscarriage of justice. All you can say is: he is convicted of killing 200 people. I find it rather suspicious that he had to drop his second appeal to be released. It smells of not wanting to bring this miscarriage of justice out in the open. It leaves me wondering about deals being made. It doesn't make him innocent, but it introduces reasonable doubt. This is unacceptable.

This is not how justice is supposed to work. He should have stayed in jail and his release should have been dependent on the ruling off his second appeal.

 

[Emperor_Jackal]

Hey, the UK doesn't have to pay for his healthcare any more.

 

[ParadigmShifter]

Nor his incarceration.

It's cheaper to send someone to Eton (really posh private school) than it is to keep someone in prison here.

 

[JollyRoger]

He is a convicted criminal. He belongs in jail. He killed about 200 people.

He is apparently law abiding now, so why not use that jail space for someone who has more recent evidence of not being law abiding?

 

[Skwink]

He is apparently law abiding now, so why not use that jail space for someone who has more recent evidence of not being law abiding?

So by your thinking, if a man is on death row, but never does anything bad in prison, he should be let free?

 

[luiz]

He is apparently law abiding now, so why not use that jail space for someone who has more recent evidence of not being law abiding?

Punishment is as important a part of the Penal System as rehabilitation and prevention of future crimes. A terrorist who killed 200 innocents should never walk free again.

 

[ParadigmShifter]

It's all relative.

George W Bush is walking around free and Tony Blair is a Middle Eastern Peace Envoy.

 

[Skwink]

But Mr. Bush never blew up a plane.

 

[ParadigmShifter]

He did kill a whole bunch of people based on lies though.

 

[luiz]

It's all relative.

George W Bush is walking around free and Tony Blair is a Middle Eastern Peace Envoy.

They never ordered the deaths of innocents. And if you think they did, you might as well close all your jails and let all murderers and rapists walk free, to be consistent.

 

[JollyRoger]

So by your thinking, if a man is on death row, but never does anything bad in prison, he should be let free?

Jesus was briefly on death row.

Punishment is as important a part of the Penal System as rehabilitation and prevention of future crimes.

He received punishment, is apparently rehabilitated, and no one has copied his crime since his release. Mission accomplished on three objectives. Jeeze, Luiz, you should look at this as a triumph of the system of justice, not a failure.

 

[Skwink]

Yes he was, then he was killed. But Jesus didn't really commit a crime. Even Pilate didn't think so. The Bomber killed many.

 

[JollyRoger]

Yes he was, then he was killed.

Should he have been let free?

 

[ParadigmShifter]

They never ordered the deaths of innocents. And if you think they did, you might as well close all your jails and let all murderers and rapists walk free, to be consistent.

It would be more consistent to bomb all of our jails because there may be bad people hiding there.

But we should make sure it is on visitors day when there are large amounts of innocent women and children there, just to be safe.

 

[Skwink]

Should he have been let free?

If he did, it would make my religion pointless.

Shifter- Civilians getting killed has been in every war.

 

[JollyRoger]

If he did, it would make my religion pointless.

So your religion is pointless without an innocent man being executed? I am starting to see your point of wanting to be defensively armed when you worship.

 

[luiz]

He received punishment, is apparently rehabilitated, and no one has copied his crime since his release. Mission accomplished on three objectives. Jeeze, Luiz, you should look at this as a triumph of the system of justice, not a failure.

My point was that the punishment did not fit the crime. Killing 200 innocents takes away your right to freedom forever.

It would be more consistent to bomb all of our jails because there may be bad people hiding there.

But we should make sure it is on visitors day when there are large amounts of innocent women and children there, just to be safe.

I am not talking about being consistent with what Bush and Blair did, but rather about your subtle suggestion that if we let Bush and Blair free we might as well let the Lockerbie bomber free as well.

 

[Skwink]

So your religion is pointless without an innocent man being executed? I can see your point of wanting to be defensively armed when you worship.

You don't know anything about Christianity.

 

[ParadigmShifter]

If he did, it would make my religion pointless.

Shifter- Civilians getting killed has been in every war.

But a pointless war costing trillions for no apparent reason apart from bollocks made up by sexed up documents?

Is that civilised behaviour?