LuckNES V

[germanicus12]

To: The French Empire
From: The Prussian Union

Because it is mutually beneficial for both of our nations to be able to look elsewhere than to our shared border, we would like to propose a two year non-aggression pact between the Prussian Union and the French Empire. You would be free to quash your various rebellions and look towards other enemies while Prussia would be free to continue its war in Russia. Consider the benefits of such a pact to yourself and your goals in other parts of the world.

While France shares this sentiment, France feels they are safe at their present borders with Prussia engaged with Russia.
So France kindly declines your offer and wishes you the best in your war.

Perhaps had your threat at the borders been real we might have accepted.

 

[Fuschia]

While France shares this sentiment, France feels they are safe at their present borders with Prussia engaged with Russia.
So France kindly declines your offer and wishes you the best in your war.

Perhaps had your threat at the borders been real we might have accepted.

You mistake the sentiment behind our offer. We hope to secure our position in our own minds, as well as allow France more freedom of movement. Threat level is of no purpose, and the NAP is simply a formality if you do not wish to declare hostilities with the Prussian Union.

 

[germanicus12]

Is the word of a Frenchmen not enough?

We shall consider this then, since we do not want to go to war against a nation that is potentially stronger than a few measly rebels.

But we have heard that you encouraged the rebel actions in Egypt, while we do not know if you did in fact supply weapons and ammo, but we are certain that you verbally encouraged the rebellion. And this is hurting your relations with us.

We shall give you a day to attempt to cover this up before we give you our response, again.

 

[Fuschia]

Is the word of a Frenchmen not enough?

Generally yes. That is why it is a simple formality. If the French Empire does not wish to go to war with the Prussian Union, than a non-aggression pact is nothing more than an unnecessary piece of paper. However, our generals and people would be much reassured by seeing that piece of paper.

But we have heard that you encouraged the rebel actions in Egypt, while we do not know if you did in fact supply weapons and ammo, but we are certain that you verbally encouraged the rebellion. And this is hurting your relations with us.

We have not supplied them with weapons nor encouraged them with words.

OOC: That little "*rushes off to support Egyptian rebellion*" was a joke. If I mean it to be IC, it will be either distinctly marked or in response to another post.

 

[Kal'thzar]

To Prussia, Russia
From British Empire

Since we are still trying to figure out the cassi belli for this war we would strongly like to advise all powers to return to the status quo ante bellum. So that we can come to the table to discuss these problems. Perhaps have talk here in London.


OOC:
Lucky still is Australasia didn;t send orders SA still contributed 3 eco or so to the Fund...could you add that?

 

[Fuschia]

To: The British Empire
From: The Prussian Union

We have already offered what we believe to be a reasonable peace treaty to the Russians. They have not agreed. We will continuing fighting until they do agree or they make a counter-proposal. That is all.

 

[silver 2039]

Luckymoose none of my research progressed during NPCage?

 

[Luckymoose]

OOC:
Lucky still is Australasia didn;t send orders SA still contributed 3 eco or so to the Fund...could you add that?

I did on one of the techs.

Luckymoose none of my research progressed during NPCage?

I didn't know how to spend it. I spent it on battleships so its okay.

 

[jalapeno_dude]

Kal, answer my diplo!!!

 

[Kal'thzar]

To Denmark
From Great Britian

We must decline, we cannot let hostile forces be based in the centre of our region of infulence, and for a power that is so easy to infulence and dominate on the continent this would not help our strategic situation.

 

[jalapeno_dude]

From: Denmark
To: Great Britain

We strongly disagree with your characterization of our nation as a "hostile force." As you would know had you bothered consulting with your advisors before contacting us, Denmark is entirely committed to the principle of neutrality. We had hoped that you would see that we wished only for good relations with your nation; it appears we overestimated your insights. We will not trouble you with further offers this year.

 

[jalapeno_dude]

Orders sent.

 

[Kal'thzar]

You appear to misunderstand what I said. I said that I cannot allow hostile forces to be placed in Iceland, I also said that your nation is too easy to infulence for the continental powers, the implication being that I think that when the possibility opens up someone will press you to let them place forces there, which you will be in no position to refuse.

 

[Disenfrancised]

There were no orders from Australasia.

I did post in thread to go along with anything britain orders.

From: Denmark
To: Great Britain

We would be greatly obliged if you would consider returning Iceland to Danish hands. While Iceland means little to your nation, it means a great deal to ours, and your generosity on this issue would place us in your debt.

Iceland was originally property of Norway, and this timeline does not have the Treaty of Kiel where Denmark nicked the atlantic holdings. You have no claim and the icelandics don't like the Danish government for historical reasons (they don't like the Brits either, but thats unrelated and the UK can subsidise them into complacenecy).

 

[Luckymoose]

I did post in thread to go along with anything britain orders.

Must have missed it.

 

[jalapeno_dude]

Iceland was originally property of Norway

Kingdom of Denmark
After being forced into the British sphere of influence in the Napoleonic wars, and its attempts to break free and ally with the French costing them Norway and other possessions. Later on with the loss of Schleswig-Holstein extensive reforms were undertaken and Denmark now maintains a position of armed neutrality and is a significant investor nation and tax haven, with ownership of a semi-corporate state in central Africa. Unlike Switzerland the strategic location and weaker natural defenses of Denmark may cause their neutrality to be violated if a power feels the need is great enough.
The tip of the Jutland peninsula and Copenhagen is one of the most developed and liberal states in Europe, prospering under a constitutional monarchy and light taxes. Although the labor movements are are very strong them are not overtly hostile as in many European countries.

Norway was originally property of Denmark.

It was my understanding that Iceland was part of Denmark ITTL (one of those "other possessions"), and I'm 95% sure I confirmed this with Luckymoose.

 

[Kal'thzar]

oh lucky submarines should be at 15/20 I spent 10 on it in my orders...

 

[Disenfrancised]

Norway was originally property of Denmark.

It was my understanding that Iceland was part of Denmark ITTL (one of those "other possessions"), and I'm 95% sure I confirmed this with Luckymoose.

Then ask for norway back, without them you don't have a claim. Yes Iceland was within the kingdom of Denmark-Norway, but it was Norways - when a marriage is broken you don't get to ask for your ex-wife's dog. (Note for this metaphor to be more accurate the dog also dislikes you, and its been 90 years since the divorce).

*Shrug* if Lucky told you that you have a serious claim, and that the icelandics want to return to you (or that your population cares about it), he's wrong .

 

[jalapeno_dude]

Lucky, can you clarify?

 

[Luckymoose]

Lucky, can you clarify?

I think I have the ability to make changes that are not life threatening. Dis already had his shot at TTL after all.