LuckNES2: The Fatal Balance

To Scandinavia and France
From HURI

With all respects, although we maintain friendly relations with both your nations, you must realise that by dismantling the German Reich completley you will severely ruin the balance of power in Europe for generations to come and condemn many young boys to deaths on the battlefields of our children, grandchildren and great-grandchildren.

Pope Pius XII
Head of State - Holy Unified Italian Republic.
 
The British government thanks the Holy Italian Republic for its support of a balanced peace. France and Scandinavia entered this war to punish Germany for whatever reasons. Germany has been punished and reparations are all that are nessecary. Even minor territorial concessions but the dismantling of a modern state is unnessecary. It is now like dismantling France or Russia. The Germans are a united people now and show just as much patriotism and bravory in defending their nation from overwhelming odds.

The British government also asks that we are not dismantled in your peace otherwise we will fight to the end and there will be no peace. We are willing to negiotate not unconditionally surrender and put the future of the British in your hands. We are proud of our island its empire and we will fight just as hard as the Germans did in their lands to defend it.
 
~Darkening~ said:
Wow, alex you just read my mind. Except, of course, I'm about to *sensored heavily. Story will bve up soon, and blam Symph for the char name.
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OOC: My my darkening, does being a hippie include defying spelling conventions? ;)

And sheep, farow, that statement by panda was an OOC one :p
 
OOC: My my darkening, does being a hippie include defying spelling conventions?
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Yeah- I've been talking to you too much lately. Starting to wear off.
 
Germany should not be divided
 
To French Repblic
From Kingdom of Mysore

We entered to war in support of our French allies which we have had good relations since the days of Napoleon. We ask that you include us and Punjab in the peace. Or if that is not possible, support us in securing a seperate peace treaty.
 
Treaty of Strasbourg​
ANNO DOMINI 1817

The Parties of the German theatre of the Second Great War, the Republic of France, the Republic of Scandinavia, and the German Reich, no longer seeing the need to extend the conflict, and instead seeking to resolve it, shall agree to the following terms of peace as per the unconditional surrender of the German Reich:

ARTICLE I.
The German Reich shall no longer exist as a sovereign state. The titles of the Kaiser are to be dissolved, and the Hohenzollern family shall henceforth deny any pretentions to power in the former land of the German Reich.

ARTICLE II.
The German Reich shall be dissolved, and its territories partitioned between the Republic of Scandinavia, the Empire of All Russias, and the Republic of France.

ARTICLE III.
The Military of the German Reich is to be dissolved accordingly aswell – though soldiers of the former Reichsheer shall be allowed participation within the armies of either Scandinavia, Russia, or France depending on region of residence. Officers of the former Reichsheer are to be dismissed from service honorably, and are to be given pensions for their past services.

ARTICLE IV.
The Republic of France shall receive the regions of the Rhineland, Baden, Württemberg, Bavaria, and Bohemia from the territories of the former German Reich. These newly received territories are to be completely incorporated into the Republic of France, and shall be governed as the Republic sees fit.

ARTICLE V.
The Republic of Scandinavia shall receive the regions of Brandenburg (including Berlin), Oldenburg, Mecklenburg, Prussia, and Silesia from the territories of the former German Reich. These newly received territories are to be completely incorporated into the Republic of Scandinavia, and shall be governed as the Republic sees fit.

ARTICLE VI.
The Empire of All Russias shall receive the region of Poland from the territories of the former German Reich. The Tsarine of Russia will also receive the title of Queen of Poland, and Poland is to be incorporated into the Empire as a subservient Kingdom.

ARTICLE VII.
The Republic of Scandinavia, upon the receiving the territories of the former German Reich allotted to it, shall transform itself, in name, to the Greater Baltic Union, reflecting the change of state to within the Scandinavian nation due to the inclusion of new regions.

ARTICLE VIII.
Any violation of the above terms will result in the annulment of this agreement, the Treaty of Strasbourg.​


Signed,
_________________
Napoleon Bonaparte, Consul of the French Republic

_________________
Karl Jahon, President of the Greater Baltic Union

_________________
Maria I, Tsarina of the Empire of All Russias, Queen of Poland

_________________
Frederik Wilhelm III, Kaiser of the German Reich

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Treaty of Rouen​
ANNO DOMINI 1817

The Parties of the British theatre of the Second Great War, the Republic of France, the Greater Baltic Union, the Ottoman Empire, the United Kingdom of Great Britain, the Sultanate of Mysore and the Kingdom of Punjab, no longer seeing the need to extend the conflict, and instead seeking to resolve it, shall agree to the following terms of peace:

ARTICLE I.
The United Kingdom shall relinquish the islands of Falkland and South Georgia, and the island of Jamaica, the island of Ascension, and the island of Saint Helena to the Republic of France. The United Kingdom shall relinquish all claims to said islands. The United Kingdom shall further relinquish all land still controlled on the African continent to the Republic of France and shall relinquish all claims to all territory it once held on the African continent. Finally, the United Kingdom shall relinquish all claims to all islands and territories it once held in the vicinity of the Caribbean Sea.

ARTICLE II.
The United Kingdom shall further relinquish the islands of Shetland and Orkney, and the island of Bermuda, to the Greater Baltic Union. The United Kingdom shall relinquish all claims to said islands.

ARTICLE III.
The United Kingdom shall relinquish the territory of British Persia to the Ottoman Empire. The United Kingdom shall relinquish all claims to said territory.

ARTICLE IV.
The United Kingdom shall relinquish all claims to all territories it holds on the Indian subcontinent. These territories shall be divided among Indian states as determined by future treaty.

ARTICLE V.
The United Kingdom shall reduce the size of its army to 40 divisions. The United Kingdom shall not increase the size of its army beyond 40 divisions or the size of its navy beyond 40 squadrons, sufficient for the defense of all territories remaining to the United Kingdom.

ARTICLE VI.
The United Kingdom shall sign Non-Aggression Pacts of ten years' duration with the below-listed nations:
The Republic of France
The Greater Baltic Union
The Ottoman Empire
The Sultanate of Mysore
The Kingdom of Punjab

ARTICLE VII.
Any violation of the above terms will result in the annulment of this agreement, the Treaty of Rouen.​


Signed,
_________________
Napoleon Bonaparte, Consul of the French Republic

_________________
Karl Jahon, President of the Greater Baltic Union

_________________
Selim III, Emperor of the Ottoman Empire

_________________
George IV, King of the United Kingdom of Great Britain

_________________
Tipu, Sultan of Mysore

_________________
Ranjit Singh, Maharaja of Punjab



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Erm... did Germany actually agree (It says Kaiser Wilhelm...) to the Treaty of Strasbourg... and Britain to the Treaty of Rouen... :(

Whoever said the French would rule the world wasn't kidding...
 
HURI critisizes the treaties offered for their high-handed nature, but notes as it retains friendly relations with the Republic of France that it will do nothing but critisize.
 
The Major said:
Erm... did Germany actually agree (It says Kaiser Wilhelm...) to the Treaty of Strasbourg... and Britain to the Treaty of Rouen... :(

Whoever said the French would rule the world wasn't kidding...
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Germany has surrendered unconditionally, so it has no say in the Treaty of Strasbourg. Britain may respond to the treaty, and we will take her response into account; the Treaty of Rouen is only currently a treaty proposed for the British by France and her allies. Britain might be reminded that she is far outclassed in her war and will certainly lose her most valuable holdings in South America, Australia and the East Indies if the war continues. (Most of the territories relinquished are either of piddling difference [flyspeck islands] or already lost to Britain; the only exceptions are Persia and India.)
 
Cuivienen said:
Germany has surrendered unconditionally, so it has no say in the Treaty of Strasbourg. Britain may respond to the treaty, and we will take her response into account; the Treaty of Rouen is only currently a treaty proposed for the British by France and her allies. Britain might be reminded that she is far outclassed in her war and will certainly lose her most valuable holdings in South America, Australia and the East Indies if the war continues. (Most of the territories relinquished are either of piddling difference [flyspeck islands] or already lost to Britain; the only exceptions are Persia and India.)
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The orkneys are a mere 10 miles from the scotish coast, it'd be lunacy to allow a foreign power so close. It would make an invasion or naval operations against britain far too easy.

Restrictions on army sizes inevitably lead to further wars as well, just saying.

Besides this is the Napoleonic war again; if Britain can maintain the naval advantage then all the continential hordes are effectively meaningless. Pity Farow wasn't really doing that...

All this is OCC by the way, though I suppose it could be IC as "Highly Placed Government Offical Considers Treaty of Rouen has Flaws"
 
HURI does not support the Treaty of Rouen. France far outclasses Britain in economy and we question why France then would need the further advantage of imposing military restrictions on Britain after such a short war. Futhermore we echo statements already said, the Orkaneys is far too close to the British coast to be owned by Scandinavia.
 
The British government will not sign the treaty and will continue to fight. Like we said the dissolution of our empire will not happen. Your treaty would give us the same outcome if we were to fight on. Our country is still willing to negiotate a peace but we will fight for a fairer treaty.

OCC: Disenfranchised, I was working on my navy and quickly catching up with France. They started out with a fleet about 3 times larger then mine with professional training. I still did manage to beat them in the English Channel and I still have a lot of fight left within me.
 
Cuivienen said:
(Most of the territories relinquished are either of piddling difference [flyspeck islands] or already lost to Britain; the only exceptions are Persia and India.)
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:lol:

I can see the next treaty already:

(Most of the territories relinquished are either of piddling difference [flyspeck islands] or already lost to Britain; the only exceptions are England and Scotland.)
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shortguy said:
:lol:

I can see the next treaty already:
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Well, you know, that may be very well be the result.

TO: The United Kingdom of Great Britain
FROM: The French Republic

That is a pity; we did not wish to have to truly dismantle the British Empire.
 
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