Mafia/NOTW Statistics

[choxorn]

Next up, Doctor Who Mafia.

I'll count the Cybermen as mafia, and the Neutrals as Innocent, as they had the same VC, and there was no difference between the Neutrals and Innocents aside from whether or not they could become Cybermen. Two had an alternate VC they could use, but both became Cybermen. The unconverted General Olaf and Double A also had an alternate VC, so I guess I could count them as both Townies and Neutrals, but I'd say Townies makes more sense in this situation.

Won: 3 (Kennigit, Jarrema, choxorn)

Lost: 15 (General Olaf/Optical, mgsmuhammad, Save Ferris, Camikaze, bestrfcplayer, GamezRule/MusicLord, landlubber, Red Spy, civplayah, CivGeneral, Takhisis, Verarde, sirtommygunn, Earthling, Double A)

Town: 15 (General Olaf/Optical, mgsmuhammad, Save Ferris, Camikaze, bestrfcplayer, GamezRule/MusicLord, landlubber, CivGeneral, Takhisis, sirtommygunn, Earthling, Double A, KaiserElectric, Darth Caesar, traitorix)

Mafia: 6 (Kennigit, Jarrema, choxorn, civplayah, Red Spy, Verarde)

Survived: 4 (Kennigit, Jarrema, Takhisis, General Olaf/Optical)

Replaced: 1 (KaiserElectric)

WoG'ed: 2 (Darth Caesar, traitorix)

 

[choxorn]

The next game to finish was Jarrema's Mafia Wars, but I didn't want to count it for anything a year ago, and my position on it hasn't changed.

After that is Archetype Mafia. I'll do it later; right now I'm too tired. And then comes long pauses in every type of game (Small, Large, Clue, Mini, and NOTW). Small Mafia was because Jimmy Neutron took three months to play, Large because Simpsons took a month to get signups and another two to play, Clue because of insane start delays in a game, Mini because nobody was hosting, and NOTW because nobody was signing up.

Seriously, Archetype Mafia ran from the beginning of August to September 12, and the next game after that to end was Jimmy Neutron, two months later.

On the bright side, this means I only have 5 games (Archetype, Jimmy Neutron, Social Experiment, Simpsons, Termite Sailors) left to do in 2011, meaning I can soon say I'm no longer stuck in a previous year.

 

[Jarrema]

The next game to finish was Jarrema's Mafia Wars, but I didn't want to count it for anything a year ago, and my position on it hasn't changed

I like your decision. It wasnt really a mafia game, but something else

 

[Jarrema]

On the bright side, this means I only have 5 games (Archetype, Jimmy Neutron, Social Experiment, Simpsons, Termite Sailors) left to do in 2011, meaning I can soon say I'm no longer stuck in a previous year.

Well, does it mean you will show us some stats? Up to end of 2011?

 

[Verarde]

Yeah, after Archetype (a great game) and Simpsons (great game, but looooong), mafia activity took a bit of a nosedive around here until Catharsis and I ran a couple small games...and look where we are now!

 

[Zack]

Nice humblebrag, but you're omitting the small game I hosted (and Jarrema's) between the two games you just mentioned, as well as the fact that it was Team Fortress 2 that re-sparked activity, not two small games from half a year ago.

 

[Turquoiside]

Next up, Doctor Who Mafia.

Perfect!



Yeah, what saved Mafia was definitely Catharis stepping in and hosting a PYP in the middle of that trainwreck Jimmy Neutron game. On that note, I definitely agree with not counting Mafia Wars, but I think you also should ignore that Skwink's clue game and obvioisly think Jimmy Neutron should be ignored. I played in neither, but I'll never understand how Skwink could start sign-ups in one month, abandon the game for another, and then be disappointed when someone didn't show up to play it another month later. And Jimmy Neutron's reasons should be obvious.

 

[choxorn]

Well, I can't ignore a game just because one of the important players vanished, or ignore a game solely because it's balanced poorly, I already have several that are one or both of those.

I can, however, ignore a game if I don't know what the alignments of surviving players are, which I don't know in Jimmy Neutron's case. On the other hand, I'm not sure if the Neutrals and Innocents were much different, but the only thing that suggests they were similar was Earthling's post.

So, unless bestrfcplayer shows up and tells me about the game set-up, I'm not counting Jimmy Neutron. I will count Social Experiment, though.

 

[choxorn]

And now for Archetype Mafia.

There were a couple of non-scums with "kill x red faction" as a goal, but going with what we already said, I'll count them as town. Except the three semi-masonic semi-SK's; I'll count them as neutral. And the Blue Scums, are, obviously, mafia.

And then there's the two Rogues, TheLastDays and Skwink, who both had a "Do this and you escape and win..." VC... I guess I'll count them as town? And TheLastDays as having won, since he did escape?

 

[Kennigit]

yeah I'd count things that way; got lazy in final write up (never wrote complete who finished their faction goals or whatever, at least not in thread. The GM qt should have everything though if you want to dig partial victories). The one serial killer faction is serial killers (neutral is good way to have it, as a SK is individual), scum be scum, and everyone else town.

TLD won and one scum faction won in the final write up.

 

[Visorslash]

Ahh simpson's mafia. That game was hilarious because I got to laugh at TLD (and I was a crap townie that game). Now he's gone.

 

[choxorn]

Alright then, Archetype Mafia:

Won: 6 (Autolycus, Darth Caesar, Jukar-C, Yoshiegg737, Lord OST, TheLastDays)

Lost: 31 (Zack, Save_Ferris, landlubber, red_spy, skwink, civplayah, nedimnapoleon, camikaze, gamezrule, takhisis, verarde, bestrfcplayer, choxorn, taillesskangaru, General Olaf, Jarrema, BSmith1068, classical_hero, sirtommygunn, SouthernKing, joecoolyo, civgeneral, robbiecon, johnhughthom, renata, romanichine, mechaerik, backwards logic, The Bake, mgsmuhammad, Turquoiside)

Town: 26 (Save_Ferris, landlubber, red_spy, skwink, civplayah, camikaze, gamezrule, takhisis, verarde, choxorn, taillesskangaru, classical_hero, sirtommygunn, SouthernKing, joecoolyo, johnhughthom, renata, romanichine, mechaerik, backwards logic, mgsmuhammad, Turquoiside, TheLastDays, ollie95, remake20, HarkonnenII)

Neutral: 3 (NedimNapoleon, CivGeneral, General Olaf)

Mafia: 11 (Autolycus, Darth Caesar, Jukar-C, Yoshiegg737, Lord OST, Zack, bestrfcplayer, BSmith1068, robbiecon, Jarrema, TheBake)

Survived: 2 (Jukar-C, taillesskangaru)

Replaced: 3 (ollie95, remake20, HarkonnenII)

 

[choxorn]

As of this game, there are now finally 20 players who have played 5 games as mafia, getting rid of that weird statistical bug.

Now I just have to live with the other weird things, like the fact that there are only 20 5-games-as-mafia players means some of them have as-mafia winning percentages around .200, or the 21-way tie for 10th place on the "Most Games Won as Mafia" category. And that's only counting people that have played 10 games, as I don't bother putting them on the "Best Of" List until then.

Anyway, Jimmy Neutron Mafia is up next; I'll give bestrfcplayer some time to respond to my query about player alignments and give me a good reason why I should count it, and in the very likely event that he says nothing, I'm going to not count it.

 

[Takhisis]

I've always played as Mafia.

 

[topsecret]

I've always played as Mafia.

Because I haven't hosted a game with you in it yet

 

[Takhisis]

I should amend my above statement, because I've also played NotW where I was never the mafia.

 

[choxorn]

And... I've given bestrfcplayer enough time. I officially declare Jimmy Neutron Mafia not counted towards official statistics, although I'll count it for historical purposes and as a mafia victory and game hosted for bestrfcplayer.

 

[choxorn]

Social Experiment:

Won: 14 (bestrfcplayer, Camikaze, Jarrema, Kennigit, classical_hero, Red_Spy, General Olaf, cpdwane, SouthernKing, Landlubber, Civplayah, Mayor, GamezRule, Verarde)

Lost: 2 (BigTin, jukar-C)

Town: 14 (bestrfcplayer, Camikaze, Jarrema, Kennigit, classical_hero, Red_Spy, General Olaf, cpdwane, SouthernKing, Landlubber, Civplayah, Mayor, GamezRule, Verarde)

Mafia: 2 (BigTin, jukar-C)

Survived: 12 (Camikaze, Jarrema, Kennigit, classical_hero, Red_Spy, cpdwane, SouthernKing, Landlubber, Civplayah, Mayor, GamezRule, Verarde)

 

[Takhisis]

12 out of 14 mafia survived? What the-?

 

[choxorn]

And in this edition of choxorn's interesting past statistical tidbits, I find that both landlubber and civplayah survived for the 11th time in this game, which is more than anyone else has survived. Congratulations, lurker brothers.

They were all townies, Takhisis.