MAGA How Many?

[Zardnaar]

Well I did the progressive version here's the other side. How much of the USA population is MAGA?

Politically engaged about a third vote GoP but not all are true believers. If USA was proportional however I think there's more of them than progressives perhaps 2-1.

Initial guess is about 1/3rd max most likely less.

 

[Voidwalkin]

Nah, it's a bit higher, like 40%. Republicans fall in line, as they say.

 

[Klaus Hergersheimer]

And as before with "progressivism", what is "MAGA" really? I know what some of its outlooks are...being part a weird fascination with isolationist tendencies (if that means putting-down foreign entities considered ingrateful) yet also striving for unilateral action when the situation [e.g. "prestige"] warrants. But few of those prove consistent with any known philosophy that any professors studied, as it all seems more in line with the idea that: it's whatever Donald Trump decides to do at any one moment.

But I will say that, much like with "liberals", "conservatives" as a brand in the US are probably not as large as what many political scientists have told us, and they only incidentally latch themselves on to those respective and much older political movements, and they tend to fluctuate very often with time and whichever person is running for office.
So I have little doubt in my mind that, say, 15 years ago the "MAGA" people were the Rep. Ron Paul people, and before then the Pat Buchanan people, etc. Sort of like how everyone on the Left before Barack Obama was all goo-goo-gaga for Dennis Kucinich, if anyone remembers him...

 

[GoodEnoughForMe]

Based on polls/people who try to persuade registered GOP voters/etc., I think probably about 40-50% of GOP voters are MAGA, although that ranges from “Trump is good at business and tough and will protect America” to “I would murder for a chance to lick his shoe”

The other half are people who in general just lean conservative and mostly just vote for whoever leads the ticket.

My experience is that “true believers/ideologues” in most stripes are badly over represented in our collective consciousness, although it gets tricky with Trump because it’s less about actual politics and ideology with him and more about celebrity worship and cult building. And he is unfortunately good at that.

Like I would guess that amount of Bush-heads was probably actually like 20% of GOP voters back in the day.

 

[Hygro]

It's definitely a loose third. It's literally just the majority of people with rightwing authoritarian (personality (disorder)).

Right-wing authoritarianism - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

25% in 2021 had a "high" RWA scores and an addition 13% had low RWA.

The middle third of course think Biden is BORING and Trump made a dope fist and chanted "fight" after his ear took shrapnel so let's invade Greenland (you know, to lower egg prices).

 

[GenMarshall]

But I will say that, much like with "liberals", "conservatives" as a brand in the US are probably not as large as what many political scientists have told us, and they only incidentally latch themselves on to those respective and much older political movements, and they tend to fluctuate very often with time and whichever person is running for office.

I’ve heard that “it’s all about vibes” and such.

So I have little doubt in my mind that, say, 15 years ago the "MAGA" people were the Rep. Ron Paul people, and before then the Pat Buchanan people, etc. Sort of like how everyone on the Left before Barack Obama was all goo-goo-gaga for Dennis Kucinich, if anyone remembers him...

I’d figured the MAGA crowd was a carry over from the Tea Party during Obama’s administration.

 

[Narz]

MAGA is a spectrum. My mom is Republican, she finds Trump distasteful but has been absorbing crap like New York Post & Jewish World Review for decades & decades so basically allergic to anything 'left' at this point.

I doubt many of the women & hispanics who voted Trump are particularly MAGA (altho some certainly are), they just weren't impressed by Biden & didn't like Harris (likely most Harris voters felt the same, I know I did).

Lets make up numbers, 40% Trump voters Maga, 40% republicans who just dislike the left & 20% just bored, want to see things burn.

And keep in mind more people didn't bother to vote than voted for either candidate.

 

[Akka]

Nah, it's a bit higher, like 40%. Republicans fall in line, as they say.

"falling in line" doesn't mean "being a MAGA at heart" though. Just like people voting Democrats can be a lot of things, often incompatible, but who votes just because they are the only alternative.

 

[Ordnael]

I think there are more Biden/Harris, bored/pissed of/discontent voters than fanatical MAGA adepts!

 

[Klaus Hergersheimer]

I’ve heard that “it’s all about vibes” and such.

I’d figured the MAGA crowd was a carry over from the Tea Party during Obama’s administration.

I forgot to guess numbers:

40% of Americans I'm thinking are independent and/or unaffiliated. They tend to decide the elections: they disliked Trump in 2020 yet disliked the Biden-Harris switcheroo in 2024 too.

60% total presumably are your typical "Left" or "right" wing...As once believed. But in the last few years I doubt this has been the case.
More accurately I think about close to half of each of those really do bend with the wind, and their politics are very slippery depending on which personality power vs. who wants to be in power. They have strong views but have no grounding.

So of those I think the I-support-whatever-Trump-does type "MAGA" is probably 10-15 percent of America.

[I would say it is similar to the numbers of those who really thought Barack Obama would smooth over race relations in America (lol). Very loopy types like that.]

 

[Archon8]

I'm someone who believes that human nature stays consistent throughout history, so I would say the proportion of Americans who are MAGA is the exact same as the proportion of Romans who supported Julius Caesar.

 

[Akka]

I wouldn't really compare Caesar and Trump, though.

 

[Archon8]

More than a few people (mostly men, probably) see Donald Trump as the next coming of Julius Caesar and Barron Trump as the new Augustus Caesar. And, just speaking for myself, I am completely onboard for this.

 

[Ordnael]

Trump reminds more of Nero!...and a deranged Leto II.

 

[Voidwalkin]

When the legions of Caesar refused to attack the enemy because of overdue backpay, Caesar felt this impugned Roman honor to a sufficient extent that he personally charged, to compel his men to follow.

In contrast, Trump claimed bone spurs, and sat sipping diet Coke while the rioters he inspired haphazardly attempted a disorganized coup.

 

[Angst]

I'm someone who believes that human nature stays consistent throughout history, so I would say the proportion of Americans who are MAGA is the exact same as the proportion of Romans who supported Julius Caesar.

whats your degree

 

[Archon8]

whats your degree

What?

 

[Klaus Hergersheimer]

whats your degree

Krav MAGA

 

[Archon8]

although it gets tricky with Trump because it’s less about actual politics and ideology with him and more about celebrity worship and cult building. And he is unfortunately good at that.

Do you see Trump going to Swannanoa, NC today and meeting with ordinary citizens who lost their homes in Hurricane Helene? Trump let several of them speak to tell their stories while he listened, asked questions, and sympathized with them. He pledged to kick FEMA in the ass to get them to actually provide funding while also praising private charities who had been active with recovery. Now if you're a resident of North Carolina, and FEMA under Biden was actively avoiding houses with Trump signs, and illegal immigrants were getting more housing than citizens who lost everything in a storm, wouldn't you be mad? Then Trump comes to your town, listens to your story and shakes your hand, and promises to your face that he will help you. Who would you support? Is this a case of Trump being a cult leader? Or is it just him being a decent person and a good leader, and people seeing that and becoming loyal to him out of appreciation?

 

[Kilroy Was Here]

FEMA under Biden was actively avoiding houses with Trump signs, and illegal immigrants were getting more housing than citizens who lost everything in a storm, wouldn't you be mad?

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