Maid Cafe Opens in NYC

[Crezth]

Are you a meganerd who enjoys Japanese culture (no offense intended)? It would explain an awful lot

Hahaha, well I originally applied for an internship in Seattle. When I was turned down for that, I was really discouraged at first but then I wanted to set my sights even higher, so I decided to try for Tokyo instead.

 

[Darkflight]

I have no understanding of this at all. When I go out to eat or drink I want food/drink. As long as the place is clean and the staff isn't horribly impolite I really don't care about them at all.

 

[JollyRoger]

I have no understanding of this at all. When I go out to enjoy the subservience of costumed women I want subservience/costumes. As long as the food and drink doesn't kill me, I really don't care about it at all.

 

[Formaldehyde]

How is sexual subservience as practiced by the Japanese any different than that followed by many Christians, especially the more fundamentalist ones? Lack of maid restaurants in major cities, at least so far?

Also somewhat relevant due to all the references to Hooters:

Hooters party for middle school football team goes on as planned even after coach got fired

A middle school football team in Oregon spent Saturday afternoon celebrating the end of its season at a Hooters restaurant, in the conclusion to a week of controversy.

Randy Burbach, a volunteer football coach for Corbett Middle School in Multnomah County, Oregon, drew national attention when he announced plans to take the team of 12- to 14-year-old boys to Hooters, a restaurant known for female waitresses in tight tank tops and short shorts, for an end of the season party.

The story exploded when Burbach was fired for his choice of venue. The school district's athletic director had asked him to change the location, reported OregonLive, but Burbach was "unyielding and emphatically said 'no.'"

In a letter posted on the district website, Corbett athletic director J.P. Soulagnet announced the end of Burbach's career coaching the team:

"...We will lose coaches that did a great job turning a group of middle school boys into a cohesive, affective football team. I'm very supportive of the time and effort that they have put in and contributed towards Corbett Football but cannot further support them in coaching roles here at Corbett based on the unwillingness to change the location of this event to a more appropriate spot."

But then, Hooters decided to take matters into its own hands. Picking up on the national attention the story was getting, the chain decided to cover the cost of the party, which Burbach planned to go ahead with despite being let go. Hooters sent this message to BuzzFeed on Wednesday:

"The Corbett Middle School football players, coaches and their families have earned the right to celebrate a successful, hard-fought season. This Saturday, Nov. 9, Hooters is picking up the tab for an awesome end-of-season football party to honor the team's gridiron success. To top it all off, Hooters will donate $1,000 along with 20 percent of Saturday's Jantzen Beach location sales to Corbett Youth Football so that the entire community can join in celebrating the team's winning season."

When the team finally showed up in a stretch limousine for the party on Saturday, they were greeted by two cheering rows of Hooters waitresses, a crowd of hooting and hollering well-wishers, and a row of video cameras, reports OregonLive.

The 23 member team was not fully in attendance, with eight players absent due in some cases to moral concerns about the venue.

"We've been cast in a negative light by some," Burbach said. "I'll take it. I don't care, but the kids and the community are showing what we're about."

He added that he respected those who didn't attend because they were standing up for their values just like he was.

Constantine Leontescu, father of a linebacker on the team, told OregonLive, "It's unfortunate that it came to this," about the media attention and Burbach's firing.

He had originally decided not to let his son go to the party, but changed his mind after having a family discussion about respecting women.

 

[BvBPL]

How is sexual subservience as practiced by the Japanese any different than that followed by many Christians, especially the more fundamentalist ones?

Lots of ways. For example, many Christians, especially the more fundamentalist ones, don't see rope bondage as a form of art.

 

[Formaldehyde]

Are you claiming that most Japanese do?

I doubt you will find much difference in the numbers of sadists and masochists or bondage and dominance fetish adherents in either group. If anything, it is just that more Japanese likely aren't quite so hung up about publicly admitting it.

 

[Crezth]

Lots of ways. For example, many Christians, especially the more fundamentalist ones, don't see rope bondage as a form of art.

You don't want to play the scoreboard game because you will go nowhere fast.

 

[Perfection]

I have no understanding of this at all. When I go out to enjoy the subservience of costumed women I want subservience/costumes. As long as the food and drink doesn't kill me, I really don't care about it at all.

For me there are three relevant factors, food, costumes, subservience. For me to be interested I need at least 2. They got costumes down but I'm not convinced on the subservience, so they need to make up for it with food.

 

[Darkflight]

I have no understanding of this at all. When I go out to enjoy the subservience of costumed women I want subservience/costumes. As long as the food and drink doesn't kill me, I really don't care about it at all.

I have no understanding of why people would enjoy subservience except if they lack a solid sense of self-esteem.

 

[NovaKart]

The news story mentioned that cat cafes are also big in Japan. Not in the sense of waitresses dressed as neko-girls, but actual cats roaming (or sleeping) around the restaurant.

I suppose the US will have trouble getting these, due to sanitation worries. However, a similar cafe in Austria was able to overcome those hurdles (after much perseverance.)
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2146121/Cat-cafe-Austria-leave-purring-pleasure.html

I would frequent a cat cafe, although I think I would avoid the maid cafe. The latter is very cute, perhaps too cute. I would avoid Hello Kitty cafes, too. Cute overload is hard to take.

I worry a bit for the safety of the young women in the NYC maid cafe. I wonder if American men might be less respectful of personal boundaries, than are Japanese men.

There are a lot of cat cafes in Turkey and Iraq, except they're not intentionally cat cafes, they just happen to have a lot of stray cats hanging out there.

 

[Valka D'Ur]

Why aren't people allowed to have cats in apartments in Japan?

 

[IglooDame]

I have no understanding of why people would enjoy subservience except if they lack a solid sense of self-esteem.

You're correct, in that you have no understanding.

I'll try a parallel. You know how some people are introverts and some people are extroverts, and many people are just somewhere in the middle? It's not self-esteem, it's just nature/nurture/prenatal-chemistry, or something. It's the same with dominance and submission: lots of people fall roughly in the middle, but there's a fair percentage that lean significantly one way or the other. They tend to be most visible in the BDSM community, but that's certainly not the only place to find them.

 

[Crezth]

Why aren't people allowed to have cats in apartments in Japan?

Landlords in Japan are utterly convinced that cats will claw everything to shreds. Everything.

 

[Valka D'Ur]

Landlords in Japan are utterly convinced that cats will claw everything to shreds. Everything.

Haven't they heard of nail clippers and scratching posts? I trim my cats' claws myself and keep plenty of things around for the cats to scratch on - cardboard boxes, scratching posts, etc.

 

[Crezth]

Beats me. If you want to own a cat in Japan it's not that difficult if you're Japanese or familiar with the culture/language. I get the feeling most people who report that you can't have cats in Japanese apartments are foreigners who couldn't find a landlord who accepted well-groomed noble mammals as well as white people.

 

[JollyRoger]

I have no understanding of why people would enjoy subservience except if they lack a solid sense of self-esteem.

Rumor is, those into power games hunker down in a fetal position in their igloo or sloop during time periods without it.

 

[Borachio]

Apparently, the most frequent clients of dominatrices are those who hold substantial power in their day jobs.

So they play at subservience to compensate. In some way.

I can't say I understand it.

Still, that's not the issue with waitresses of just any ilk, I'm guessing.

But I can't say I understand that either. Being a waiter never appealed to me.

 

[householder]

There are a lot of cat cafes in Turkey and Iraq, except they're not intentionally cat cafes, they just happen to have a lot of stray cats hanging out there.

The owners of those cafes have good taste. If their food tastes nearly as good, surely they meet with success.

 

[IglooDame]

Apparently, the most frequent clients of dominatrices are those who hold substantial power in their day jobs.

So they play at subservience to compensate. In some way.

I can't say I understand it.

Still, that's not the issue with waitresses of just any ilk, I'm guessing.

But I can't say I understand that either. Being a waiter never appealed to me.

The most frequent clients of masseuses (sp?) are also those who hold substantial power in their day jobs. I suspect it is correlation rather than causation: people who don't have significant paychecks can't afford dominatrices (or private masseuses).

 

[IglooDame]

Rumor is, those into power games hunker down in a fetal position in their igloo or sloop during time periods without it.

I'm not sure about fetal positions, but certainly the quality of food goes to hell quickly.