Marians: Sons of Mars

[Tani Coyote]

Buddhism

How could I forget Buddhism? Buddhism teaches that simplicity and meditation are the paths to Nirvana, a plane of non-sensation and thus freedom from pain and suffering in mortal life.

Buddhism can only be founded in an area in contact with Hindus, or Hindu itself.

Buddhism has been founded in Lombardia. The Lombards switch to Buddhism naturally, and every province is given a chance to convert... 4 of 5 provinces convert, the other rising up. Monaco is now occupied by Hindu rebels.

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Buddhism will now spread:

France - 2
Iberia - 1
Italy - 1
Germany - 4
Austria
Carthage - 2

14 provinces have been claimed by Buddhism, the fifth major religion of the world.

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Religions left to go:

Abrahamic: Orthodoxy, Protestantism, Sunni Islam, Shi'a Islam

Dharmic: Taoism, Shintoism

Secular: Atheism, No State Faith

Specific details: Shintoism and Taoism can be founded anywhere; Orthodoxy and Protestantism must be founded in a Catholic province; Sunni Islam can be founded by anyone in contact with Judaism or a branch of Christianity; Shi'a can only be founded by Sunni provinces.

Atheism and No State Faith, due to not being religions per se, have special benefits. Atheism, due to not being a true faith, doesn't have a holy city. Instead, militant atheism on the part of the state means churches can be subject to taxation, increasing your revenue - you derive 0.25 gold for every religious province you control. No State Faith means you can't use a religious CB, but you not only don't derive any penalties from switching to it, but your RR drops by 10%.

Atheism and No State Faith will become available later on, as society advances and the concepts of the Enlightenment and/or there being no God become more mainstream.

 

[Mathalamus]

Canada asks Iberia to spread Catholicism somehow.

 

[Duke Blackstone]

Hmm... They sound interesting. What era would we be in do you think?

Edit: Please tell the Aztec to keep the gold, with our compliments.

 

[Tani Coyote]

Canada asks Iberia to spread Catholicism somehow.

We'd be Hindu if anything since 1/3 of our provinces are Hindu. In order for Hinduism to possibly spread to Canada without your input, you'd need us to convert to Hinduism(not gonna happen, since we'd have to add +20% to our RR for a single turn), or for half our provinces to turn Hindu.

Alternatively, you'd need to try and contact a Hindu state, which would require investing in a TON of diplomacy since the closest one is Carthage.

Hmm... They sound interesting. What era would we be in do you think?

Probably when techs start creeping into the double digits. Though since Europe's already starting to discover the Americas, we may be more advanced than it may seem...

 

[Mathalamus]

how about with input?

 

[Dumanios]

William I wishes for all availible Gold to be put into Military 2 (or is it 3?)

Still no new settlements.

Unrelated to my actions.

Spoiler :

Military 1: Hunting
Military 2: Stone Working
Mil 3: Bronze Working
Mil 4: Late Bronze Age
Mil 5: Iron Working
Mil 6: Metal Casting
Mil 7: Late Iron Age
Mil 8: Dark Ages
Mil 9: Early Middle Age
Mil 10: High Middle Age
Mil 11: Late Middle Age
Mil 12: Renaissence
Mil 13: 17th Century
Mil 14: 18th Century
Mil 15: Napoleonic Wars
Mil 16: 1815-1850
Mil 17: 1850-1895
Mil 18: 1895-1913
Mil 19: WWI
Mil 20: WWII
Mil 21: Atomic Age(IE 1945-1965)
Mil 22: Vietnam War
Mil 23: 1975-1990
Mil 24: 1990-2010
Mil 25: Next War(Civ 4)
Mil 26: 22nd Century(Empire Earth)
Mil 27: Alpha Centauri middle game
Mil 28: Alpha Centauri end-game
Mil 29: Star Trek
Mil 30: Star Wars-esque Superweapons

 

[Mathalamus]

how much gold do you need to invest in military 30 from 29?

 

[Tani Coyote]

Military 30's base cost would be 300 gold. Military 29's 290... and so on.

 

[Mathalamus]

300? for the gap between star trek and star wars (24,700 years at least) it should be 10,000 gold.

 

[Tani Coyote]

Put it into perspective Math. It'd take 7 turns to reach Army 30 at your current level.

JUST Army 30. Not including the other techs you must go through.

The base cost of a single tech branch, up to tech 30, is 4,650. Just one branch. All four branches would therefore be 18,600. Or 310 turns for me, at 60 income.

This game can last for a while, trust me.

 

[Tani Coyote]

Now that I've done NPC spending up to Hedjaz, we can get this party started. Persia and Astrakhan together wield 15 armies!

Hedjaz, meanwhile, wields 13. The war can go either way, but Persia-Astrakhan has a slight advantage due to Persia having a morale of 1.5.

Since the Hedjaz have fewer numbers, they decide to let the Astrakhan forces make the first move, due to defenders having an advantage.

Persia's 6 1.5 morale armies attack first.

16-22
24-16
1-9
11-25
22-9
6-12

Persia is humiliated and left defenseless.

Astrakhan's 9 armies will be used next. 3 are positioned to defend Persia against any Hedjaz strikes. The remaining 6 are ordered to march into Hedjaz Persia.

15-17.
17-22.
20-3.
1-6.
4-10.
13-22.

The Astrakhan-Persian forces have reclaimed only 3 provinces. They have 3 armies poised to defend Persia against 10 Hedjaz forces.

19-10.
10-8.
10-18.
15-3.

All Astrakhan forces have been defeated. 6 provinces are taken without battle. Net gain this turn? +6 for Hedjaz, -6 for Persia.

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Remember that if you are in contact with NPCs at war, you can elect to send aid to either faction... or just watch the fireworks.

 

[Omega124]

I am quite offended that America STILL doesn't have a religion.

Invest all in Infra 4, then Military 5.

 

[Tani Coyote]

With time, the faiths will start spreading to the Americas... or if you're lucky, maybe you'll get Shinto or Taoism.

Formula for Power:

(Net Income) + (Land morale * number of armies) + (value of tech + current research + Treasury)

This change in formula will prevent nations from lowering their power footprint by stashing cash in the treasury, where it would be counted as 1/4 its value.

Stats as of the end of Update 12

Tier One

India (71) + (3.3) + (401) = 475.3
Na-Na-Nine (62) + (2.1) + (411) = 475.1
Iberia (65) + (6.6) + (380) = 451.6

As a rule, remember that Tier One Powers cannot ally with eachother, but they CAN ally with other powers. In the event a power upgrades to Tier One status, any alliance between them is dissolved.

Tier Two

Singapore (57) + (-0.2) + (372.8) = 429.6
Nubia (54) + (17.6) + (347.4) = 419
Germany (59) + (5.6) + (339) = 403.6

Tier Three

Austria (53) + (1.2) + (345) = 399.2
Austronesia (51) + (-0.2) + (340) = 390.8
Amazon (48) + (4) + (335) = 387
Zululand (58) + (7.5) + (300) = 365.5


Tier Four

Canada (40) + (3) + (309) = 352
Rome (36) + (2.1) + (310) = 348.1
Caribbean (43) + (2) + (258) = 303
Kiev (60) + (1) + (242) = 303

Tier Five -

Japan (39) + (1.1) + (250) = 290.1
Carthage (55) + (3) + (220) = 278
Deseret (35) + (4.6) + (233.6) = 273.2

 

[GhostWriter16]

How are we NOT Tier 1? Is there something to it besides province count? Because we've been expanding like mad.

 

[Tani Coyote]

Your large military is hurting your income Soviet-style.

That turn you gave money to Axum probably set your research back a few dozen gold, so that hurts too.

 

[Arakhor]

Star Trek is actually more advanced than Star Wars - SW just went in for mega-damage weapons.

Are my people really trying to foster every religion??

 

[Tani Coyote]

Why yes, yes they are.

Judaism, Catholicism, Hinduism, etc. are all abundant... It's like the Reformation but far too early!

You can take over Germany next turn if interested; I've already entered their orders for this turn.

 

[Arakhor]

Colour me interested, yes.

 

[Tani Coyote]

Rebels, and Why They Suck

Lombardia attacks Hindu Monaco

5-25. Epic fail. Lombardia beseeches their lord Iberia to do the dirty work, and we agree... lousy vassals...

7-15.
18-3. Rebels vanquished!

Austria attacks Catholic Hungary

17-25.
4-16.
27-18.

Novgorod attacks Finns

22-15.

All orders locked pending update. Austronesia's income has been banked so it can be spent come next turn.

 

[Tani Coyote]

Turn 14

Incidents

Caribbean had a revolt in Puerto Rico.

Singapore had a revolt in Borneo.

Na-Na-Nine had a revolt in Xinjiang.

Canada had a revolt in Newfoundland.

India had a revolt in Bangladesh.

Kongo had a revolt in Angola.

Axum had a Great Yemeni revolt, covering 10 provinces!

Novgorod had a Finnish revolt.

Norway had a Catholic revolt.

Events

Serbia had an economic boom and will collect 1 extra income as a result.

Mongolia had an economic boom.

Pakistan had a botched meeting, and so has lost 3 points with India.

Argentina had a botched meeting, and so has lost 3 points with Patagonia.

Singapore had an economic crash! -6 income.

Succession

No dead monarchs.

Religious Events

Hinduism - Lombardia, Naples and Carthage (60%), Iberia(50% + 5% = 55%); Rome, Nubia, Germany, Austria and all countries in contact with Carthage are at 50%.

Iberia: 2
Rome:
Nubia:
Germany: 1
Austria:
France:
Carthage:
Mali: 1
Cyrene: 2
Albion: 2
Norway:
Poland: 1
Serbia: 1

Net gain - 10

Judaism - Kiev has 60%, Novgorod has a 55% chance, everyone else in contact with Kiev(Germany, Austria, Astrakhan, and Rome, Na-Na-Nine) has a 50% chance.

Kiev: 1
Novgorod: 3
Germany: 2
Austria: 1
Astrakhan:
Rome: 1
Na-Na-Nine: 2
Nubia:
Persia: 3
Hedjaz:
Norway: 1
Poland:
Serbia:

Net Gain - 14

Catholic Christianity

Norway: 3
Sweden:
Novgorod:
Germany:
Poland:
Austria:
Albion: 2
France: 2
Kiev:
Serbia:

Gain - 7

Confucianism

Ormus - 1
Persia - 2
Hedjaz -
Pakistan -
Mesopotamia -
Syria -
Na-Na-Nine -
India - 1
Axum -
Nubia - 2

Gain - 6

Buddhism

Carthage
Iberia - 2
France
Germany - 1
Austria - 6
Serbia
Rome

Gain - 9

Taoism

Taoism, another dharmic faith, places emphasis on harmony, balance, compassion, and the idea of a single force - the Tao - that runs through all.

Taoism has been founded in Deseret, and only claims one province. It's holy city will be located in Utah. While it has yet to be adopted as an official faith, Taoism will have a 50/50 chance in all countries in contact with Deseret.

Deseret - 1
Aztecs -
Canada - 1
New England - 1
Caribbean -

Net Gain - 3 provinces

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Announcement:

I've noticed the "minor" countries are actually starting to catch up to and even eclipse some of the major countries! Accordingly, I am giving you a "stimulus check" of sorts - 200 gold! We must re-establish the major powers. This credit cannot be banked or used for anything but technology. Choose how you wish to invest it.