Mathalamus
Emperor of Mathalia
oh god my military sucks!
um, we ask new England if they can be annexed.
um, we ask new England if they can be annexed.
Marians: Sons of Mars
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Duke Blackstone
John Marchman
We ask the Caribbean for war aid, and the Aztecs to pay back the gold we loaned them.
Tani Coyote
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They wanted revolution originally, but were opportunists and accepted vassalage... now they're opportunists again.
Well, I suppose word has spread of the war of aggression... you don't need direct contact to know of things going on in distant lands; the Romans knew of silk didn't they?
But hey, bring it. This game was getting slow anyway
As you wiiiish!
(All NPCs up to Kamchatka have their orders in, so let's move onto the SA nations)
Patagonia earns 26 income.
5 armies are recruited, and all 6 march to retake Patagonia's lost lands.
2 12 - Patagonian army destroyed!
20 7
12 7
2 24
2 12 - Patagonian army destroyed!
1 21
Only 2 victories, but it's the start of a reversal; 2 of Amazon's 10 armies are retired.
Hoping for better luck, the Argentines decide eliminating the Amazonian army in Patagonia would be the best first step. They only collect 14 income(having paid tribute earlier), but combine this with their treasury to bring their total armies to 6.
10 14
20 23
16 29 - Army destroyed!
19 14 - army destroyed!
29 11
12 11 - Morale makes Amazon win.
2 victories, again.
Guyana's memories of Amazon's constant attempts to bully them into submission aren't easily forgotten. Guyana has chosen to interfere upon hearing word that a distant land is under siege.
Having 6 armies after recruitment, Guyana launches a full scale assault.
5 8 - army destroyed!
22 12
30 5
5 19
1 17 - army destroyed!
25 10
3 victories! Amazon now has a net loss of 1 province this turn.
Maracaibo recruits 7 armies!
8 armies are put on the offensive against Amazon. Once 3 Amazonian forces are defeated, Maracaibo can walk freely into the Amazon.
26 10
24 15
16 16
29 14 - Defending army destroyed!
Maracaibo takes 7 territories.
The Amazon has lost a net of 8 territories this turn, but its foes have paid the price in blood - 6 enemy armies killed easily.
New England accepts!
It'll be up to Lighthearter to approve both.
Lighthearter
President of the United States
I will not send war aid but the Aztecs will pay back their loans!
Now who are you fighting again and why?
-L
Now who are you fighting again and why?
-L
GhostWriter16
Deity
Deal!
This turn, spend half gold on Civics, half on Diplo.
Duke Blackstone
John Marchman
It originally was the nation to the west of Argentina, but now its every NPC on the continent.
Duke Blackstone
John Marchman
They wanted revolution originally, but were opportunists and accepted vassalage... now they're opportunists again.
Actually, you said they revolted because they wanted to decentralize the government, and they accepted vassalage because they wanted to still be under the Amazonian crown. No twisting history for your own empirical devices GM
Well, I suppose word has spread of the war of aggression... you don't need direct contact to know of things going on in distant lands; the Romans knew of silk didn't they?
But did they attack China? I think not.
Anyway, I ask Inca to join the war, pointing out that not only do they now have a CB against.. Well everyone, and this would be a good chance for them to get their own vassals. Also, our combined income would be almost double my enemies. I use my royal marriage to help persuade them.
Omega124
Challenging Fate
Invest in Infra.
Tani Coyote
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I believe the amount was 10 gold?
He launched a war of aggression against Patagonia, so the entire bloody continent sans the Incas has decided to launch an Operation Payback.
Actually, you said they revolted because they wanted to decentralize the government, and they accepted vassalage because they wanted to still be under the Amazonian crown. No twisting history for your own empirical devices GM
Well the logic was they could be decentralised with nominal rule from the Amazonians, not because they still wanted to be under Amazonian rule.
It also made their revolution possible...Argentine News:
In the midst of the South American War, the duke of Argentina and his closest supporters have all been rounded up and executed by the revolutionary Republican government. The Argentine Republic says that the Duke was nothing more than a snake, who would change sides whenever it benefitted him. By contrast, the Republican faction is nationalist, and staunchly opposed to any suzerainty.
The Inca don't have a CB on any of the powers, since you launched a war of aggression, giving your neighbors a CB on you.
Inca'd have a CB on YOU if anything, but their royal marriage prevents them from using it(since it keeps them at -1 relations, when they must be -2 or below to consider war)The Inca will keep an eye on the situation, however, and offer shelter to the Amazonian crown in the event it becomes necessary.
(Say, if things do go sour, do you intend to take over an NPC and start anew? There are several major power NPCs after all...)
Duke Blackstone
John Marchman
I can?? Then definitely. Haha good, provided I cant turn this around next turn ill switch. Normally I would just ride it out, but theres no point getting further behind. Now, if you want to have everyone accept a white peace, and everything jump back the way it was before the war...
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The Chinese War
Na-Na-Nine earns 42 income, which recruits 9 armies.
With a massive 37 armies, Na-Na-Nine is ready to press the attack. Na-Na-Nine gets +4% to all offensive rolls.
10 armies are kept on the defense, while 27 are sent to combat the Qin, who have 31 armies.
2 30 - Army destroyed!
12 17
21 5
22 23 - Army destroyed!
13 16
3 victories.
23 24 - Morale lets N-N-N win.
3 22
12 11
9 21
8 3
3 victories!
12 19
23 19
2 20
20 2
30 6
3 victories again.
17 10
23 22
28 5
8 29
27 11
4 victories!
17 5
17 25
14 26
5 23
5 19
1 victory!
20 20
23 6
2 victories.
The Qin have been forced to retire 16 of their armies, while Na-Na-Nine can proudly boast of having reclaimed 16 provinces.
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Qin earns 7 income, which recruits 2 armies when combined with treasury. Na-Nine gets -2% to all defensive rolls. The Qin have 13 armies to use. They default to Korea, however, using them to retake provinces.
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Korea, after recruitment, has 6 armies, all of which are sent against Na-Na-Nine.
19 6
7 13
3 15
3 13
25 10
3 13
Korea's status as a meat shield gives the Qin back 2 provinces.
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The Qin then send their 13 armies against their enemies.
16 12
28 8
12 2
30 9
18 17
4 victories!
2 12
21 15
14 23
5 4 - Morale lets N-N-N win.
4 28
1 victory!
12 20
28 20
26 3
2 victories. Na-Na-Nine has only 1 army left to protect it.
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Japan now has 54 income it can donate to the Qin. It does so on the condition that if the Qin are victorious, they give Hong Kong and Macau to the Japanese Empire. The Qin accept.
30 1. 10 provinces are overrun!
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The Pakistani Emir desires more territory of his own, and sees opportunity. He converts his country to Confucianism. 1 revolt breaks out, but 6 provinces have a 50% chance of converting. 5 provinces convert!
Crushing the rebels, the Emir sends 5 armies to overrun western Na-Na-Nine.
Na-Na-Nine earns 42 income, which recruits 9 armies.
With a massive 37 armies, Na-Na-Nine is ready to press the attack. Na-Na-Nine gets +4% to all offensive rolls.
10 armies are kept on the defense, while 27 are sent to combat the Qin, who have 31 armies.
2 30 - Army destroyed!
12 17
21 5
22 23 - Army destroyed!
13 16
3 victories.
23 24 - Morale lets N-N-N win.
3 22
12 11
9 21
8 3
3 victories!
12 19
23 19
2 20
20 2
30 6
3 victories again.
17 10
23 22
28 5
8 29
27 11
4 victories!
17 5
17 25
14 26
5 23
5 19
1 victory!
20 20
23 6
2 victories.
The Qin have been forced to retire 16 of their armies, while Na-Na-Nine can proudly boast of having reclaimed 16 provinces.
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Qin earns 7 income, which recruits 2 armies when combined with treasury. Na-Nine gets -2% to all defensive rolls. The Qin have 13 armies to use. They default to Korea, however, using them to retake provinces.
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Korea, after recruitment, has 6 armies, all of which are sent against Na-Na-Nine.
19 6
7 13
3 15
3 13
25 10
3 13
Korea's status as a meat shield gives the Qin back 2 provinces.
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The Qin then send their 13 armies against their enemies.
16 12
28 8
12 2
30 9
18 17
4 victories!
2 12
21 15
14 23
5 4 - Morale lets N-N-N win.
4 28
1 victory!
12 20
28 20
26 3
2 victories. Na-Na-Nine has only 1 army left to protect it.
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Japan now has 54 income it can donate to the Qin. It does so on the condition that if the Qin are victorious, they give Hong Kong and Macau to the Japanese Empire. The Qin accept.
30 1. 10 provinces are overrun!
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The Pakistani Emir desires more territory of his own, and sees opportunity. He converts his country to Confucianism. 1 revolt breaks out, but 6 provinces have a 50% chance of converting. 5 provinces convert!
Crushing the rebels, the Emir sends 5 armies to overrun western Na-Na-Nine.
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Patagonia and Argentina sign a trade agreement!
Maracaibo and Guyana sign a trade ageement!
Austria and Serbia - trade.
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Every human's got their orders in, so all orders locked pending update.
Maracaibo and Guyana sign a trade ageement!
Austria and Serbia - trade.
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Every human's got their orders in, so all orders locked pending update.
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Turn 18
Incidents
Axum had 3 revolts - radical Confucians who desire to turn the entire country Confucianist.
Events
No events this turn.
Succession
No succession events.
Religious Events
Catholic Christianity
Iberia:
Sweden:
Russia: 4
Germany:
Austria: 2
Albion:
Kiev:
Serbia: 2
Gain - 8
Confucianism
Ormus -
Persia -
Hedjaz -
Pakistan -
Mesopotamia - 1
Na-Na-Nine -
India - 4
Axum - 4
Nubia - 1
Gain - 10
Buddhism
Carthage - 1
Iberia - 3
Germany - 1
Austria -
Gain - 5
Taoism
Aztecs - 1
Deseret -
Canada -
Caribbean - 1
Amazon -
Antilles -
Colombia - 4
Maracaibo -
Gain - 6
Sunni Islam
Iberia -
Carthage -
Morocco -
Canada - 1
Mali -
Nubia - 1
Germany - 3
Austria -
Albion -
Kiev - 1
Russia - 5
Total Gain - 11
Announcement:
Orthodoxy has been founded in Russia. In the depths of the Catholic regions, some have openly questioned the authority and legitimacy of the Pope in Stockholm. They've gone so far as to claim themselves the true legitimate church of Jesus Christ, and as such, have established a new, Orthodox Church. Russia has endorsed the faith, despite Swedish and Kievan concerns.
Obviously, Catholicism loses 1 province. Now the chance of conversion is calculated... Every province has a 45% chance of revolt! Yikes. 59 provinces...
28 provinces rebel against the Russian Empire, mostly Jewish.
Of the 31 that didn't revolt, 1 already turned Orthodox. That leaves 30 provinces to convert... First, pagan Estonia. None convert despite the region's suicidal support for the crown.
Next, Moscow, which remains loyal to the government. 45! 2 provinces so far.
Next, the 4 Catholic provinces, which have a 10% chance. 1 converts, making 3 provinces. There are 20 provinces left. 6 Islamic provinces next, of which 1 converts; 14 provinces left, all pagan. 10 convert!
Net totals: Catholicism has lost 2 provinces, Islam 1, and Orthodoxy has gained 14 provinces, and a state of its own: mighty Russia.
The Russian rebels will possess 12 armies, to represent the revolt percentage that spawned them. You can support either side in the war provided you have contact with the actual Russia. The regime you support will obviously have a better opinion of you if you support them.
Consideration: if the Russian rebels win, they will turn Russia into a Jewish state, benefiting the already-large Jewish faith, but making it increasingly likely Judaism will dominate, start to form coalitions, and destroy non-Jewish countries. If the Russian government wins, Orthodoxy will triumph in the region, but maybe you can hammer out some deals regarding other faiths...
Incidents
Axum had 3 revolts - radical Confucians who desire to turn the entire country Confucianist.
Events
No events this turn.
Succession
No succession events.
Religious Events
Catholic Christianity
Iberia:
Sweden:
Russia: 4
Germany:
Austria: 2
Albion:
Kiev:
Serbia: 2
Gain - 8
Confucianism
Ormus -
Persia -
Hedjaz -
Pakistan -
Mesopotamia - 1
Na-Na-Nine -
India - 4
Axum - 4
Nubia - 1
Gain - 10
Buddhism
Carthage - 1
Iberia - 3
Germany - 1
Austria -
Gain - 5
Taoism
Aztecs - 1
Deseret -
Canada -
Caribbean - 1
Amazon -
Antilles -
Colombia - 4
Maracaibo -
Gain - 6
Sunni Islam
Iberia -
Carthage -
Morocco -
Canada - 1
Mali -
Nubia - 1
Germany - 3
Austria -
Albion -
Kiev - 1
Russia - 5
Total Gain - 11
Announcement:
Orthodoxy has been founded in Russia. In the depths of the Catholic regions, some have openly questioned the authority and legitimacy of the Pope in Stockholm. They've gone so far as to claim themselves the true legitimate church of Jesus Christ, and as such, have established a new, Orthodox Church. Russia has endorsed the faith, despite Swedish and Kievan concerns.
Obviously, Catholicism loses 1 province. Now the chance of conversion is calculated... Every province has a 45% chance of revolt! Yikes. 59 provinces...
28 provinces rebel against the Russian Empire, mostly Jewish.
Of the 31 that didn't revolt, 1 already turned Orthodox. That leaves 30 provinces to convert... First, pagan Estonia. None convert despite the region's suicidal support for the crown.
Next, Moscow, which remains loyal to the government. 45! 2 provinces so far.
Next, the 4 Catholic provinces, which have a 10% chance. 1 converts, making 3 provinces. There are 20 provinces left. 6 Islamic provinces next, of which 1 converts; 14 provinces left, all pagan. 10 convert!
Net totals: Catholicism has lost 2 provinces, Islam 1, and Orthodoxy has gained 14 provinces, and a state of its own: mighty Russia.
The Russian rebels will possess 12 armies, to represent the revolt percentage that spawned them. You can support either side in the war provided you have contact with the actual Russia. The regime you support will obviously have a better opinion of you if you support them.
Consideration: if the Russian rebels win, they will turn Russia into a Jewish state, benefiting the already-large Jewish faith, but making it increasingly likely Judaism will dominate, start to form coalitions, and destroy non-Jewish countries. If the Russian government wins, Orthodoxy will triumph in the region, but maybe you can hammer out some deals regarding other faiths...
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Having become the foremost economy in the known world(for Iberia), the Emperador delivered a message outlining new foreign policy motives. Some notable excerpts:
-Iberia supports the Orthodoxists in Russia, believing that every government has the right to determine its own affairs; the rebels should sit down with the Czar and discuss a compromise. Iberia is toying with the idea of pledging financial support if necessary.
-Iberia is eager to expand its opportunities, and so Iberia will now be donating 10 gold per turn to missionary efforts. All states with pagan populations and in contact with Iberia(that means Morocco, Nubia, and Mali really at the moment) are encouraged to request aid from Iberia if they desire Islam to spread to their nations.
-Iberia must meet more nations, and so Diplomacy must re-assert itself as a prime area of investment - better fleets are needed to expand communications and protect trade routes, in particular.
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Iberia claims 2 provinces in Africa; our financial moves will come upon seeing the world's decisions.
-Iberia supports the Orthodoxists in Russia, believing that every government has the right to determine its own affairs; the rebels should sit down with the Czar and discuss a compromise. Iberia is toying with the idea of pledging financial support if necessary.
-Iberia is eager to expand its opportunities, and so Iberia will now be donating 10 gold per turn to missionary efforts. All states with pagan populations and in contact with Iberia(that means Morocco, Nubia, and Mali really at the moment) are encouraged to request aid from Iberia if they desire Islam to spread to their nations.
-Iberia must meet more nations, and so Diplomacy must re-assert itself as a prime area of investment - better fleets are needed to expand communications and protect trade routes, in particular.
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Iberia claims 2 provinces in Africa; our financial moves will come upon seeing the world's decisions.
GhostWriter16
Deity
Claim the 5 territories closest to me (Yep, we're nabbing up as much of the empty African land as possible, this time we'll connect our borders by ship)
Give half our income the Camroon as promised, put one-quarter into Civics, one-quarter into Diplo.
)Give half our income the Camroon as promised, put one-quarter into Civics, one-quarter into Diplo.
Duke Blackstone
John Marchman
All income into armies yet again. Attack the weakest NPC at war with me, using as many units as needed to destroy them. Any that are not used stay home to defend my land.
Mathalamus
Emperor of Mathalia
finally new england let itself to be annexed. i bet they did it just to shut us up.
anyway, we put all gold into infrastructure. and we move the capital to new york, a s planned several years ago.
anyway, we put all gold into infrastructure. and we move the capital to new york, a s planned several years ago.
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Treasury and income together buy 13 armies. With 38 armies, Amazon is more powerful than ever.
The traitorus Argentines are the weakest coalition power, with only 18 provinces. They only have 5 armies to fend off the Amazons... and given Amazon's bonuses of +2.3 morale, and +12% being added onto that(Quality + Offensive), it will be brutal.
24 28
11 5
9 27
11 23
28 9
That's 2 Argentine armies down.
12 8
27 27
11 7
22 26
16 6
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Ulp! That's it for Argentina. The Amazon overruns all 13 remaining provinces. They still have 15 armies to defend their lands... whatever the coalition accomplishes - if anything - will determine the outcome of the war. All of Argentina's armies are disbanded, naturally, sans 1.
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The Patagonians go first. Patagonia now has 10 armies; their goal is to free one of Argentina's provinces, which will allow the Argentines to resume operations.
4 5
26 5 - Argentina is reborn!
23 8 - 1 Patagonian province re-conquered. Amazonian army destroyed.
8 8
16 20 - This Patagonian army destroyed.
23 29
29 16 - Patagonia kicks Amazon out of their country.
29 23 -
7 12
30 24 -
net changes: Argentina regains one province; Patagonia takes their 2 occupied provinces AND seizes 3 Argentine provinces.
Argentina, while practically having lost its independence to Patagonia, puts last turns' tax revenue to good use, recruiting 4 armies. Now with 9 armies, it gives the order to attack Amazon, which only possesses 8 armies to defend itself.
20 10 - Amazonian army destroyed.
29 23
19 27
19 23
12 16 - Argentine Army destroyed
17 18
9 10
28 20
24 14
That amounts to 4 losses for Amazon.
Guyana, nervous to being encircled by Maracaibo, makes the next move.
9 armies raised, they attack the remaining 4 armies that protect the Amazonians.
17 8
11 1
4 6
2 24 - Army destroyed.
3 29 - Army destroyed.
2 armies beaten, 2 more to go...
26 28
11 5
24 15
That finishes Amazon's defenders; Guyana gets 1 free territory.
After recruitment, Maracaibo has 15 armies, which means 15 Amazonian provinces!
Amazonia is down to 16 provinces of its own and 15 occupied provinces. It would seem the Twilight of the Amazon has come... But perhaps they have some Werewolves to counter?
You're in luck; Norway's Jewish and you're Pagan so you already have a religious casus belli whenever you're ready.
