Mario or Sonic?

[amadeus]

Mario:
• defends a reactionary government
• has blonde girlfriend but never intimate
• always wears a hat

Sonic:
• gotta go fast
• collects golden rings
• arch enemy has a big mustache and huge land army

 

[Angst]

both are boring.

sonic is less timeless, is kind of a construct of Cool 90s Corporate Design, and it's aged poorly.

mario is a lamp

but if choose? mario, i guess. due to his blankness, he still holds up.

i yell GOTTA GO FAST in games a lot tho

 

[Tee Kay]

I didn't read the poll question before voting, but I still say Sonic by a small margin, just because I think he'd possibly fall for the Nazis' faux-environmentlist aesthetic.

 

[AmazonQueen]

Never played any games with either featured

 

[Gorbles]

Man, this is difficult. They're both Brands™, and neither are even my favourite. Both have a lot of meme culture around them (from the amusing to the straight up terrifying at times, as you'd expect).

But heck, Mario. Just because Luigi is a cool dude.

 

[Hygro]

Looooooooool amadeus

 

[Chukchi Husky]

I feel like I need to post this. It's from one of the Sonic comics.

 

[Chukchi Husky]

I've been thinking about this for a while. In the game mechanics of most Sonic games, Sonic the Hedgehog starts in a tropical natural landscape and ends in some kind of industrial landscape, sometimes a Blade Runner style city, sometimes a large manufacturing complex, sometimes a large Death Star style battle station, to finally face against Doctor Eggman. As he progresses through the game, the effects of industrialisation and urbanisation become more clear, including chemical plants, casinoes, mines, theme parks, printing presses. Everywhere are robots that when smashed reveal an animal trapped inside. Sonic the Hedgehog is trying to free the animals from being used as a power source for these robots. He is trying to emancipate the animals from being exploited by the machine of industry that's all under the control of a single authority figure, Doctor Eggman.

 

[Plains-Cow]

Mario:
• defends a reactionary government
• has blonde girlfriend but never intimate
• always wears a hat

Sonic:
• gotta go fast
• collects golden rings
• arch enemy has a big mustache and huge land army

Italian food is soooo good. Chili dogs are meh-tier.

 

[AmazonQueen]

I've been thinking about this for a while. In the game mechanics of most Sonic games, Sonic the Hedgehog starts in a tropical natural landscape and ends in some kind of industrial landscape, sometimes a Blade Runner style city, sometimes a large manufacturing complex, sometimes a large Death Star style battle station, to finally face against Doctor Eggman. As he progresses through the game, the effects of industrialisation and urbanisation become more clear, including chemical plants, casinoes, mines, theme parks, printing presses. Everywhere are robots that when smashed reveal an animal trapped inside. Sonic the Hedgehog is trying to free the animals from being used as a power source for these robots. He is trying to emancipate the animals from being exploited by the machine of industry that's all under the control of a single authority figure, Doctor Eggman.

So Sonic is a proto eco-guerilla

 

[Takhisis]

Is this even a question?

Sonic. Sometimes you just need your speed.

Wait. You have a different question. This isn't a fan thread. Sonic's an anarchist so he wouldn't join the Waffen-SS and their technological horrors.

Mario's even Italian!
Crazy thread.

 

[Qactus]

I feel like I need to post this. It's from one of the Sonic comics.

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Stumbled across this reference a couple times already on CFC. There's nothing wrong with it obviously, but just in case here's a link to the original poem by German pastor Martin Niemöller, reflecting on whether he (or the protestant church in general) should have opposed the Nazis much earlier:

First they came ... - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Kaitzilla]

Italian food is soooo good. Chili dogs are meh-tier.

I think the idea of the chilli dog is what is so captivating.

Everyone has had a best hot dog in their life, and everyone has had a best chilli in their life, but no one has had both at the same time.

 

[Plains-Cow]

I think the idea of the chilli dog is what is so captivating.

Everyone has had a best hot dog in their life, and everyone has had a best chilli in their life, but no one has had both at the same time.

I hope that someone carves this on the wall of a modern Pompeii.

 

[amadeus]

The people not reading the question provided an unintentional additional source of amusement for me and others.

Anyway, in answering the question I felt Sonic had more of a fascistic vibe to it, Mario being more fantasy but also at the same time more grounded in reality. Another good and previously oft-overlooked game is MOTHER, which the creator Itoi Shigesato based on his impressions of America; the sequel game EarthBound as it became released in the West expanded on this a little bit, but I find the original game to have more “charm” in capturing the perception of America from the outsider’s view—note too that Itoi was not famous as a game developer, but as a copywriter who had notoriety even before becoming involved in game development.

Now I’m not one of these undergraduate liberal arts students (not anymore!) that will say there was an intentional volkisch allegory put into the games, but the pure and pastoral world set versus the mechanic and industrial Robotnik (as he was then known), I feel like parallels can be drawn to the Third Reich and its caricature of modernity and of the Jewish. Again, to say this would be some kind of intentional narrative set up by the SEGA development team I think would border on crazy, so I don’t think that.

 

[Takhisis]

Anyway, in answering the question I felt Sonic had more of a fascistic vibe to it, Mario being more fantasy but also at the same time more grounded in reality.

Naze!?

 

[amadeus]

Naze!?

I get out of the Sonic universe there is a striving for “purity,” some kind of ill-defined concept the Nazis fetishized.

Or maybe I’m just at the bottom of the barrel scraPING AS usual.

 

[Zardnaar]

Sega fan boy SONIC.

 

[Gorbles]

The people not reading the question provided an unintentional additional source of amusement for me and others.

I mean, oops.

But also still Mario. The Italian plumber, after all.

 

[Chukchi Husky]

In one of the Mario games Mario is hired by one of the Toads to prevent the other Toads from forming a union and going on strike.

In one of the Sonic comics, Sonic volunteers to help a kingdom with a monarch that believes in the divine right of kings to stop a pro-democracy protest by putting all the protestors in prison (including Tails).