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namliaM
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Do we have elephants near? => SoZ
Otherwise I would say rush Pyramids in Bangalore, its the most corrupt and the granaries will do growth good....
Otherwise I would say rush Pyramids in Bangalore, its the most corrupt and the granaries will do growth good....
Calcutta is most corrupt, but that point is moot. We should rush Pyramids in next available city. Don't waste shields already in bin.
Did Lahore build warrior, now building worker? If so, we can rush Pyramids there as soon as worker is done.
Did Lahore build warrior, now building worker? If so, we can rush Pyramids there as soon as worker is done.
Trying to catch up on everything I missed:
-Im taking it that Delhi, Calcutta, Madras, and Bangalore are four of our culture cities? Im also assuming that our 5th city hasnt been built yet?
-I would suggest we irrigate Madras rather than mine so we can get it up to a more productive size.
-Same with Bangalore. We irrigate that grassland and under the forests well have some great production out of those hills and mountains.
Hopefully I didnt suggest something that has already been discussed. I went through the past posts and may have missed it.
-Im taking it that Delhi, Calcutta, Madras, and Bangalore are four of our culture cities? Im also assuming that our 5th city hasnt been built yet?
-I would suggest we irrigate Madras rather than mine so we can get it up to a more productive size.
-Same with Bangalore. We irrigate that grassland and under the forests well have some great production out of those hills and mountains.
Hopefully I didnt suggest something that has already been discussed. I went through the past posts and may have missed it.
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Turn 1(1475BC)- Both the workers that chop rushed the temple are done, that temple is done next turn. No BG is shown. Both start roads.
IBT- Bombay Settler->Worker. Bangalore Temple->Pyramids. Can be changed later.
Turn 2(1450BC)- Lower lux tax to 20%. Philo in 6 @ -1gpt.
IBT- Nothing.
Turn 3(1425BC)- Nothing
IBT- Bombay Worker->Worker
Turn 4(1400BC)- Found Karachi. It starts Temple.
IBT- Lahore Warrior->Worker.
Turn 5(1375BC)- Nothing
IBT- Bombay Worker->Worker.
Turn 6(1350BC)- Not much.
IBT- Nothing
Turn 7(1325BC)- ....
IBT- Philo->Republic. The SGL doesnt show up. Hopefully we'll get him soon. Im sorry about losing the save. Research Lit in 16 turns.
Turn 8(1300BC)- Attack a barbarian and win. Man that SGL thing is making me mad.
IBT- A warrior defends against 2 barbarian horsemen and wins. Colossus in. Start MoM.
Turn 9(1275BC)- Lose a warrior try to kill a barb encampment.
IBT- Bombay Worker->Worker. Lahore Worker->Barracks.
Turn 10(1250BC)- Nothing.
This really bummed me out that I lost a SGL for us. Believe me I did everything exactly the same, but didn't get him again. We might get him for Lit, but this might give us a better chance to get him later, when we can rush something like JS Bachs or something else. Once again sorry.
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IBT- Bombay Settler->Worker. Bangalore Temple->Pyramids. Can be changed later.
Turn 2(1450BC)- Lower lux tax to 20%. Philo in 6 @ -1gpt.
IBT- Nothing.
Turn 3(1425BC)- Nothing
IBT- Bombay Worker->Worker
Turn 4(1400BC)- Found Karachi. It starts Temple.
IBT- Lahore Warrior->Worker.
Turn 5(1375BC)- Nothing
IBT- Bombay Worker->Worker.
Turn 6(1350BC)- Not much.
IBT- Nothing
Turn 7(1325BC)- ....
IBT- Philo->Republic. The SGL doesnt show up. Hopefully we'll get him soon. Im sorry about losing the save. Research Lit in 16 turns.
Turn 8(1300BC)- Attack a barbarian and win. Man that SGL thing is making me mad.
IBT- A warrior defends against 2 barbarian horsemen and wins. Colossus in. Start MoM.
Turn 9(1275BC)- Lose a warrior try to kill a barb encampment.
IBT- Bombay Worker->Worker. Lahore Worker->Barracks.
Turn 10(1250BC)- Nothing.
This really bummed me out that I lost a SGL for us. Believe me I did everything exactly the same, but didn't get him again. We might get him for Lit, but this might give us a better chance to get him later, when we can rush something like JS Bachs or something else. Once again sorry.
BigNHuge = Friggen Idiot
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P.S. I started a Temple in Karachi, which can be changed whenever. I also didn't revolt because I was going to wait for the Colossus, but it finished and I didn't think to. Of course, the next player can revolt before turn 1. Sorry.
I don't see how CAII can remove your saves. Did you go through your C: drive manually and look for them? CAII shouldn't even affect your saves, other than look at them when the progrom is running.
namliaM
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Where are we building culture? I thought it was Bangalore, Lahore, Madras, Delhi and Calcutta??Game Rulez said:
If so, Why then are we building a temple in Karachi? And a barracks in Lahore? IIRC Lahore doesnt have a temple yet? Should that not be reverse?
@BnH Nice TS BnH, getting an SGL is RNG every tech. You might just as well (unlike as it is) gotten 2 SGLs. We will probably get one... Tho not getting one (i think) is actually better. I pray to the RNG-gods we dont get an SGL at all this game
We should try and get some vet archers/Horseman up ASAP to fight of them barbs effectively.
For the (near) future, When we get to the FP mark, do we want to use a MGL (plenty of these please RNG-gods). To rush it? If so where? Does Bangalore make sence?
If we want to rush it, do we use the first or second? If we use the first to make an army we can start on the HE for culture and/or prebuild.
If we dont rush it we will have considirably higher corruption for a longer period.
We have 1 lux allready and 3 more just out off reach... Thats verry nice 4 lux so early on...
I may be a little trigger happy, but will we be going for the Byzantine or Aztec first? Byzantine can still expand and may prove a bigger problem a bit later on. The Aztecs (Wheather they are N or S from Tlatelolco, seem to be boxed in) are occupying (or are going to) some good low-ish corruption city sites.
I think it would be a priority to settle 2 towns just S of Madras and 1 town 3 or 4 NE of Calcutta (or maybe 3 NE +1E, it would be on the river then probably)
But expanding SW looks to be needed too, Iron, Horses (tho we will have them near Calcutta soon enough..) and Gems.
Or ... in short... Expand like crazy?
Sorry for ranting so much....
Lahore = Culture; Karachi = No Culture
Lahore will be able to run 20+ shields per turn, very nice for MA wonders.
Swap the builds and have that worker near Lahore chop a forest as I suggested earlier.
FP: My first thought was Calcutta. Bangalore may be better, though, as there are more shields and commerce, so the net affect may be greater here.
I think Bombay needs to be at size 4 when we start running settlers again. We can build a warrior there to allow for growth, then continue with 2-turn workers.
Delhi needs to be growing faster. Mausoleum may be delayed a couple turns, but growth is more important. That said, I agree that we should irrigate around most of our cities. Some priority needs to go to roading worked tiles so that all worked tiles will benefit from the standard trade bonus of Republic.
Trades:
Inca still has monopoly on Math, several civs have HR, and there is over 200 gold out there. I would trade CoL to Inca for Math and as much of their gold as they'll give, then trade/sell to the others for HR and gold.
Lahore will be able to run 20+ shields per turn, very nice for MA wonders.
Swap the builds and have that worker near Lahore chop a forest as I suggested earlier.
FP: My first thought was Calcutta. Bangalore may be better, though, as there are more shields and commerce, so the net affect may be greater here.
I think Bombay needs to be at size 4 when we start running settlers again. We can build a warrior there to allow for growth, then continue with 2-turn workers.
Delhi needs to be growing faster. Mausoleum may be delayed a couple turns, but growth is more important. That said, I agree that we should irrigate around most of our cities. Some priority needs to go to roading worked tiles so that all worked tiles will benefit from the standard trade bonus of Republic.
Trades:
Inca still has monopoly on Math, several civs have HR, and there is over 200 gold out there. I would trade CoL to Inca for Math and as much of their gold as they'll give, then trade/sell to the others for HR and gold.
namliaM
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We could also move the palace to Madras, giving less corruption overall to our culture hoggers.
Then we can do the FP just about anywhere in them 5.
Looking back I think Karachi should/could have been 1 more sw. But we can still fit in the low corruption, 2 shield fishing town right on the tip sw of them fish...
Should we revolt ASAP? Or wait for MoM to finish (long wait)
Revolting will add food to growth due to the irrigated cows!
Just quoting the roster:
Mathias => Fixed my boboos
BigNHuge => Lost an SGL
and is a Friggen Idiot 
Methos UP
nerovats on deck
namliaM => Made some worker mistakes
Then we can do the FP just about anywhere in them 5.
Looking back I think Karachi should/could have been 1 more sw. But we can still fit in the low corruption, 2 shield fishing town right on the tip sw of them fish...
Should we revolt ASAP? Or wait for MoM to finish (long wait)
Revolting will add food to growth due to the irrigated cows!
Just quoting the roster:
Mathias => Fixed my boboos
BigNHuge => Lost an SGL
and is a Friggen Idiot Methos UP
nerovats on deck
namliaM => Made some worker mistakes
Whoops, guess I should have posted an 'I got it'.
I won't play until tonight so let's discuss.
We need to find out what is south of Madras and Bangalbore (sp?). As well as figure out where exactly to put our fifth city. Hmm, better reread past posts as this may have already been decided.
I've heard you mention this several times but am curious as to what exactly the trade bonus is?
I won't play until tonight so let's discuss.
We need to find out what is south of Madras and Bangalbore (sp?). As well as figure out where exactly to put our fifth city. Hmm, better reread past posts as this may have already been decided.
Mathias said:
I've heard you mention this several times but am curious as to what exactly the trade bonus is?
namliaM
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Methos,
We are building culture in 5 cities and all have been founded. They are Bangalore, Lahore, Madras, Delhi and Calcutta.
Karachi however is building a temple at the moment which it can not finish. Switch it to something else (Barracks?)
Also Lahore is currently building a barracks, That may be better off building something culture (temple?)
Trade bonus... In Republic (and democraty) you get an extra commerce on every tile that allready has commerce. This (I think) is what Mathias is refering to on the "trade bonus".
I think we need to revolt ASAP to Republic. Which means most your turns would be anarchy (sorry). In anarchy and republic there is no such thing as MP. So we can use the warriors to:
1) Finaly kick down that barb camp.
2) Kick back some fog.
Before revolting tho, we might want to let Bombay finish that Worker (or not?)
Edit to add all this:
Do we need MoM? It gives 3 content citizens and 2 cpt, where we allready have the Colossus at 3 cpt. + I think we want to try and fit Both newtons (6cpt) and Copes (4cpt) in there.
Oracle would (except for the culture) be not so helpfull.
I doubt us beeing able to finish Pyramids in time and/or Oracle for that matter. So unless they are prebuilds for something (Great lib? HG? Is Lighthouse usefull enough? Are we switching MoM to that?)
We might be building something more usefull in all 3 cities right now?
Note on the wonders: Due to the No culture outside of the 5 cities rule, we cannot build ToA and the Internet.
We are building culture in 5 cities and all have been founded. They are Bangalore, Lahore, Madras, Delhi and Calcutta.
Karachi however is building a temple at the moment which it can not finish. Switch it to something else (Barracks?)
Also Lahore is currently building a barracks, That may be better off building something culture (temple?)
Trade bonus... In Republic (and democraty) you get an extra commerce on every tile that allready has commerce. This (I think) is what Mathias is refering to on the "trade bonus".
I think we need to revolt ASAP to Republic. Which means most your turns would be anarchy (sorry). In anarchy and republic there is no such thing as MP. So we can use the warriors to:
1) Finaly kick down that barb camp.
2) Kick back some fog.
Before revolting tho, we might want to let Bombay finish that Worker (or not?)
Edit to add all this:
Do we need MoM? It gives 3 content citizens and 2 cpt, where we allready have the Colossus at 3 cpt. + I think we want to try and fit Both newtons (6cpt) and Copes (4cpt) in there.
Oracle would (except for the culture) be not so helpfull.
I doubt us beeing able to finish Pyramids in time and/or Oracle for that matter. So unless they are prebuilds for something (Great lib? HG? Is Lighthouse usefull enough? Are we switching MoM to that?)
We might be building something more usefull in all 3 cities right now?
Note on the wonders: Due to the No culture outside of the 5 cities rule, we cannot build ToA and the Internet.
namliaM
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India, yeah think we are.... That cool !
Yes we're religous. Just 1 turn of anarchy, mm to get as much food as possible that turn.
I'd change lahore to colossus, when we learn MM switch delhi to lighthouse, build MoM in Madras or Bangalore.
The decision which civ to take on first will have some time, since most of our current cities need to build culture first.
I'd change lahore to colossus, when we learn MM switch delhi to lighthouse, build MoM in Madras or Bangalore.
The decision which civ to take on first will have some time, since most of our current cities need to build culture first.
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