Meritocratic currency.

Mouthwash

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What would the economy be like if, instead of spending money, we racked up points? The higher your score, the more you can afford during a certain time frame. Being "broke" would no longer be possible. When you earn something, you earn it for life.
 
You have capital, and could sell whatever you want. It's only a different monetary system.
 
How does this work with consumables such as food? Does earning food for life mean that you will be fed for life or that you will receive a ration of food which you may do with as you please?
 
The elephant in the room: How would those points be distributed?
I have been wondering myself weather the free flow of currency should be replaced by a designed flow of points, but didn't yet move beyond simply wondering. The other elephant in the room is the worry that this would be a bureaucratic nightmare with a lot of unintentional effects. So it really stands and falls with the design. The principle potential though seems interesting to me. Which I see in forcing the economy to be less about itself and more about humans while keeping universal competition and hence efficiency intact. An alternative to economic socialism as traditionally understood.
 
Alternative currencies always seem to boil down to the same currency we have now. Which is simply credit. I don't think there's anyway round it.

Even gift economies rely on credit, in the end.
 
You have capital, and could sell whatever you want. It's only a different monetary system.

How? Let's say I have 40 credits, and a table, and my my neighbor has 60 credits and no table. How do I sell my table to my neighbor?
 
Jasper Fforde explores this issue in his novel Shades of Grey.

I think he lays out an economic system of trading merits that might work.

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How? Let's say I have 40 credits, and a table, and my my neighbor has 60 credits and no table. How do I sell my table to my neighbor?

On credit.
 
The elephant in the room: How would those points be distributed?

It should be some sort of system where the least capable in society get the most credits and the most capable get the least. Obviously, being more capable means they will be able to make do with less by virtue of them being more capable. I suspect this isn't the sort of setup Mouthwash was thinking of, though.
 
Bad idea in my view. A credit currency would have to be electronic-based (or in a similar but more primitive manner, like keeping written records etc). Both of those are massively open to incredible amount of government abuse, much more than when you just have some material money around. The economy can still collapse and render your money meaningless, but in all other cases you are still able to buy stuff without any need to be monitored or depend on the government-run office for it.

Afaik some African (subsaharan) countries do have programs for an electronic currency, which are ongoing. I doubt it will lead to good.
 
It should be some sort of system where the least capable in society get the most credits and the most capable get the least. Obviously, being more capable means they will be able to make do with less by virtue of them being more capable. I suspect this isn't the sort of setup Mouthwash was thinking of, though.

This sounds like a variant of a negative income tax, which (truly, honestly) I think might be necessary as automation-induced unemployment becomes more pronounced. The truly handicapped are never punished. The strivers are rewarded. Win/win.
 
Bad idea in my view. A credit currency would have to be electronic-based (or in a similar but more primitive manner, like keeping written records etc). Both of those are massively open to incredible amount of government abuse, much more than when you just have some material money around. The economy can still collapse and render your money meaningless, but in all other cases you are still able to buy stuff without any need to be monitored or depend on the government-run office for it.

Afaik some African (subsaharan) countries do have programs for an electronic currency, which are ongoing. I doubt it will lead to good.

So I guess you're not familiar with BitCoin?
 
^ +1

I know (a bit) about bitcoin. While it is not the same as a government-nation backed official currency (as is planned in those states i mentioned), i still think it is not going to work in the long run.
 
This sounds like an idea that we came up with after watching the second episode of Black Mirror where all humanity was enslaved and racking up points on exercise bikes to the point where they could buy a golden ticket to go onto a reality talent show and try to escape.

I'm probably a bit predisposed against the idea after seeing that episode.
 
What would the economy be like if, instead of spending money, we racked up points? The higher your score, the more you can afford during a certain time frame. Being "broke" would no longer be possible. When you earn something, you earn it for life.

You might not be broke but you might still not have enough points to afford a meal.


And the existence of a currency doesn't guarantee the success of that economy nor the success of its backer.

E.G.:

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What would the economy be like if, instead of spending money, we racked up points? The higher your score, the more you can afford during a certain time frame. Being "broke" would no longer be possible. When you earn something, you earn it for life.

Why bother with all that? Why not just give things to people who need them, and can use them best?
 
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