Zardnaar
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Captured vehicles apparently.
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banzay13
King
Exactly. And Asad regime is simple bad, while other much worse. Well, there also Kurds, who are at big part communists (and, surprise, US is fine with it, well, like and jihhadist from En-Taf also fine) , but no one let them make a real state. US support them only for their oil control
Snowygerry
Deity
Well it should create problems for both Russia and Iran, so it may have some strategiic advantage, too soon to tell.
From our correspondent in Aleppo, reception by the population is mixed.
“Rebels” are well equipped, trained and professional, although obviously still Islamists.
Apparently Syrian army is no match for them.
From our correspondent in Aleppo, reception by the population is mixed.
“Rebels” are well equipped, trained and professional, although obviously still Islamists.
Apparently Syrian army is no match for them.
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Zardnaar
Deity
ISIS 2.0 or diet cole version?
Snowygerry
Deity
No, don’t think so, IS was all about the Caliphate, they started beheadings and slave markets wherever they went, these guys are actual soldiers, including night fighting capabilities, something the Syrian army apparently lacks.
Their beards are shorter too, that was probably the PR effort rt was talking about
Their beards are shorter too, that was probably the PR effort rt was talking about
Snowygerry
Deity
Well from what I hear the is idea to have those Syrians that are now in Turkey return to the liberated territories.
Par for the course in the ME. Apparently those coming into Aleppo are those that were driven out some years ago.
Par for the course in the ME. Apparently those coming into Aleppo are those that were driven out some years ago.
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awright , Halep has kinda sorta fallen . With the cutting of the roads from the seperatist zones . No doubt inside Halep stuff is expected . A next "Kobani" . Which was and is actually Ayn el Arab and better known as the Kurdish Stalingrad where the depiction of impending genocide provided some very slow response by the US that netted the Kurds the right to ethnically cleanse the pipeline route that was ethnically cleansed by ISIL as the preliminary work .
coup in Damascus turns out to be 4 drunken men against "regime supporting Beşar's brother's 4th Armoured Division" . No , the jihadists did not stop their advance with a reminder of Damascus '13 battles with MiG-29 CAS . Something has to be given to New Turkey , superbly cheated once again . This becomes some of the seperatist held areas West of Euphrates . Which justifies UAE , Saudi Arabia and Egypt siding with Beşar against the so called Ottoman invasion , which by the way is nothing of the sort . No need for MiG-29s , you see , they will deploy a couple of people and Qatar will rein their proxies and that will be all . Beşar's family is the UAE , he is back in Damascus .
new Turkey was following American orders to kiss with the seperatists and become brothers . Due to the cyclical nature of this and they are naturally speaking about elections in which the PM's own laws do not let him to run this time but he will because new stuff will happen , things might have happened . Qatar claimed it would carry out a small attack to redraw some control lines so that Russians would not be able to attack the jihadist controlled areas . Which of course turned out to be an ISIL type advance which like defies the conventional military mindset . (Which of course is BS in this case , but anyhow . Nobody ever likes the truth) .
first reports . The shot down plane turns out to the kamikaze drone the jihadists themselves launched . Now , does this prove Doge il Muskelli is right ? With FPV drones actively hurting Iranian and Syrian reinforcements in Central Syria today . Which the Russians of course claim are either being used by Ukranians on the ground or Kiev supplied some numbers with training or whatever . This funny claim is important as the losses in Syria will be added to the bill the West will eventually force Kiev to pay . Doge il Muskelli while discussing this , will not say anything about New Turkey's F-16s loaded with AMRAAMs patrolling against Syrian L-39s and helicopters which might have hit the usual Toyota convoys on the highways . Nor the Russian FPV operators with the direct war experience and sent to warmer climes fof R&R . One captured and tied to a tree or whatever ...
anyhow , on the day Halep was conquered and stuff , some Turkish speaking Arab guy made the videos . Name patch catching my interest . F-116 arabic script 16 or something like that . No , we are not discussing the Western equivalent to that and that might be his unit description or something in the first place .
echo chamber has the guy who says America is an enemy and we should work with London . Which helps us with the F-24G and the engine . This internet guy will of course not tell it has taken 5 years to launch the F-24G in F-110 size , before the actual studies . 414 size is direct RR territory and the Korean KF-21 would be the first distraction , with all resistance to the Korean meaning there would be none when the F-24 issue was terminated and the British jet bought .
the pre-emptive strike . By people who set up web service algorythms . So that a CFC member randomly finds it . All set up against this .
the other guy is Atatürk . It should be the summer of 1938 as he was dying . He still took a tour of the South inspecting Army units to pressure France for Hatay . Paris understood easily enough that he wasn't joking . Syrians have always hated this . As if they didn't have enough Christians and Armenians and historically important sites and cities . PM run a canteen during his military service ; as a democratic figure he only wears flight jackets with sun glasses and it is the uniform the top Goverment General gets to wear . The flag is not Turkish . Like for some reason . And it is not a New Turkey victory that the Beardies celebrate to the South of the border . But , hey , this is complicated , right ? They have taken Halep before New Turkey could drive to the city limits of Halep in a Karabagh style thing . Happened twice to the hapless Armenians after all .
it has been said PM's "own TV channel" said secularism was good and Esad should remain while it was org_smic in the New Turkey edition of CNN . If you read that thread for whatever reason , you will see there has been ample New Turkey preparation for Caliphate and suitable Ottomans . The supposed gay Ottoman is actually the nephew of a political cartoonist in New Turkey newspapers . Ottomans to accept the superiority of a person because the Lebanese were the first to say they utterly hated the Ottomans and there was no way they would accept a second one . New Turkey is not working for a new Ottoman Empire . Arabs , foremost Qatar , has assured it will be an Umeyyad state , despite the extreme smartness of New Turkey . Which was the superpower of its day , from Maghreb to Mashreq . They would even capture China and India but got stuck in Central Asia . Those rich merchant families who had suddenly found themselves an equal of Ceazars and Shahinshahs (because of the Religion brought by Muhammed whom they had utterly failed to kill) had already became unbelieving tyrants . Abbasids were what they got , out of the frictions of their "war on terror stuff" . The "usurpers" would eventually fail even more by losing control to Turkish mercenaries . Arab statesmen of the 21st Century can not be actual friends to Turks , they are not stupid . Like 1275 or so years , afterall .
the kids picture shows when people search Ottomans online , they will not see politically approved people . In case New Turkey follows its fantasies , which are daily mocked in gold covered Arabian palaces and residences and tries to do something impressive in Syria , as what should be its proxies steal the thunder of a thunder run .
american Special Forces , who are Marxist-Leninists because they like wearing seperatist patches very much , as if we are exploding in place because we can't do anything ? They are safe and sound ... West of Euphrates was set aside for New Turkey to play for the time being . Pentagon's Kurds will eventually beat Langley's Jihadists and clear the way to the sea . No problem for USAF or USN bombing New Turkey's proxies so that they couldn't make it to Halep . It is already forgiven for the concubines they have taken . Nor an issue for Arabs . Istanbul when cleared of its millions of Turks will be sweeter .
and like the actual reason ? Disagreement over oil prices . PM's trolls , because they are supposed to work for the PM have been attacking the Azeris lately . Because PM needs military success . He has always boasted of power . The photoshop picture up above shows his face of 5 or 10 years ago . No election campaign picture ever shows his now grey hair . He , for political reasons boasted that he had liberated Karabagh from the Armenians . Aliyev , whenever he needs to be a vassal , becomes a vassal of only Putin and he has estensive Israeli support anyhow . It is reported to be some crisis . Anyhow 50 odd percent of Israeli oil is Azeri in origin . With some 20 more from Kazak exports . A dollar and twenty seven cents is paid officially for each of 700 000 barrels that flow in the pipeline . The seperatist politicians attacked PM as a supporter of the Israeli genocide by allowing Azeris and Kazakhs export oil . They claimed 80 cents a barrel for the PM . The so called ceasefire deal had involved the PM promising something about opening the way for the seperatists . This somehow strangely related to diplomatic talks with South Cyprus to let into NATO , too . The Kurdish route to the sea has been cracked a bit more , without New Turkey . Nobody ever likes the Turks is the moral of this post ...
say , those we can't kill because of surrender can easily become mayors of their towns in a decade .
much happiness for similar images in this country . They will soon call Trump all sorts of names for acting on it . No , he would never stop supporting the seperatists in the first place .
coup in Damascus turns out to be 4 drunken men against "regime supporting Beşar's brother's 4th Armoured Division" . No , the jihadists did not stop their advance with a reminder of Damascus '13 battles with MiG-29 CAS . Something has to be given to New Turkey , superbly cheated once again . This becomes some of the seperatist held areas West of Euphrates . Which justifies UAE , Saudi Arabia and Egypt siding with Beşar against the so called Ottoman invasion , which by the way is nothing of the sort . No need for MiG-29s , you see , they will deploy a couple of people and Qatar will rein their proxies and that will be all . Beşar's family is the UAE , he is back in Damascus .
new Turkey was following American orders to kiss with the seperatists and become brothers . Due to the cyclical nature of this and they are naturally speaking about elections in which the PM's own laws do not let him to run this time but he will because new stuff will happen , things might have happened . Qatar claimed it would carry out a small attack to redraw some control lines so that Russians would not be able to attack the jihadist controlled areas . Which of course turned out to be an ISIL type advance which like defies the conventional military mindset . (Which of course is BS in this case , but anyhow . Nobody ever likes the truth) .
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first reports . The shot down plane turns out to the kamikaze drone the jihadists themselves launched . Now , does this prove Doge il Muskelli is right ? With FPV drones actively hurting Iranian and Syrian reinforcements in Central Syria today . Which the Russians of course claim are either being used by Ukranians on the ground or Kiev supplied some numbers with training or whatever . This funny claim is important as the losses in Syria will be added to the bill the West will eventually force Kiev to pay . Doge il Muskelli while discussing this , will not say anything about New Turkey's F-16s loaded with AMRAAMs patrolling against Syrian L-39s and helicopters which might have hit the usual Toyota convoys on the highways . Nor the Russian FPV operators with the direct war experience and sent to warmer climes fof R&R . One captured and tied to a tree or whatever ...
anyhow , on the day Halep was conquered and stuff , some Turkish speaking Arab guy made the videos . Name patch catching my interest . F-116 arabic script 16 or something like that . No , we are not discussing the Western equivalent to that and that might be his unit description or something in the first place .
echo chamber has the guy who says America is an enemy and we should work with London . Which helps us with the F-24G and the engine . This internet guy will of course not tell it has taken 5 years to launch the F-24G in F-110 size , before the actual studies . 414 size is direct RR territory and the Korean KF-21 would be the first distraction , with all resistance to the Korean meaning there would be none when the F-24 issue was terminated and the British jet bought .
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the pre-emptive strike . By people who set up web service algorythms . So that a CFC member randomly finds it . All set up against this .
the other guy is Atatürk . It should be the summer of 1938 as he was dying . He still took a tour of the South inspecting Army units to pressure France for Hatay . Paris understood easily enough that he wasn't joking . Syrians have always hated this . As if they didn't have enough Christians and Armenians and historically important sites and cities . PM run a canteen during his military service ; as a democratic figure he only wears flight jackets with sun glasses and it is the uniform the top Goverment General gets to wear . The flag is not Turkish . Like for some reason . And it is not a New Turkey victory that the Beardies celebrate to the South of the border . But , hey , this is complicated , right ? They have taken Halep before New Turkey could drive to the city limits of Halep in a Karabagh style thing . Happened twice to the hapless Armenians after all .
it has been said PM's "own TV channel" said secularism was good and Esad should remain while it was org_smic in the New Turkey edition of CNN . If you read that thread for whatever reason , you will see there has been ample New Turkey preparation for Caliphate and suitable Ottomans . The supposed gay Ottoman is actually the nephew of a political cartoonist in New Turkey newspapers . Ottomans to accept the superiority of a person because the Lebanese were the first to say they utterly hated the Ottomans and there was no way they would accept a second one . New Turkey is not working for a new Ottoman Empire . Arabs , foremost Qatar , has assured it will be an Umeyyad state , despite the extreme smartness of New Turkey . Which was the superpower of its day , from Maghreb to Mashreq . They would even capture China and India but got stuck in Central Asia . Those rich merchant families who had suddenly found themselves an equal of Ceazars and Shahinshahs (because of the Religion brought by Muhammed whom they had utterly failed to kill) had already became unbelieving tyrants . Abbasids were what they got , out of the frictions of their "war on terror stuff" . The "usurpers" would eventually fail even more by losing control to Turkish mercenaries . Arab statesmen of the 21st Century can not be actual friends to Turks , they are not stupid . Like 1275 or so years , afterall .
the kids picture shows when people search Ottomans online , they will not see politically approved people . In case New Turkey follows its fantasies , which are daily mocked in gold covered Arabian palaces and residences and tries to do something impressive in Syria , as what should be its proxies steal the thunder of a thunder run .
american Special Forces , who are Marxist-Leninists because they like wearing seperatist patches very much , as if we are exploding in place because we can't do anything ? They are safe and sound ... West of Euphrates was set aside for New Turkey to play for the time being . Pentagon's Kurds will eventually beat Langley's Jihadists and clear the way to the sea . No problem for USAF or USN bombing New Turkey's proxies so that they couldn't make it to Halep . It is already forgiven for the concubines they have taken . Nor an issue for Arabs . Istanbul when cleared of its millions of Turks will be sweeter .
and like the actual reason ? Disagreement over oil prices . PM's trolls , because they are supposed to work for the PM have been attacking the Azeris lately . Because PM needs military success . He has always boasted of power . The photoshop picture up above shows his face of 5 or 10 years ago . No election campaign picture ever shows his now grey hair . He , for political reasons boasted that he had liberated Karabagh from the Armenians . Aliyev , whenever he needs to be a vassal , becomes a vassal of only Putin and he has estensive Israeli support anyhow . It is reported to be some crisis . Anyhow 50 odd percent of Israeli oil is Azeri in origin . With some 20 more from Kazak exports . A dollar and twenty seven cents is paid officially for each of 700 000 barrels that flow in the pipeline . The seperatist politicians attacked PM as a supporter of the Israeli genocide by allowing Azeris and Kazakhs export oil . They claimed 80 cents a barrel for the PM . The so called ceasefire deal had involved the PM promising something about opening the way for the seperatists . This somehow strangely related to diplomatic talks with South Cyprus to let into NATO , too . The Kurdish route to the sea has been cracked a bit more , without New Turkey . Nobody ever likes the Turks is the moral of this post ...
say , those we can't kill because of surrender can easily become mayors of their towns in a decade .
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much happiness for similar images in this country . They will soon call Trump all sorts of names for acting on it . No , he would never stop supporting the seperatists in the first place .
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Syria's dictator Assad and his family is supposedly in a Moscow hotel atm, which means he's in Russia begging for military aid, while the Russian Minister of Defense is in North Korea begging for more weapons and ammo. Will Iran send someone to Moscow too in the not so distant future? Or would they have better luck in Pyongyang?
Zardnaar
Deity
Hmmn capturing a major city in 3 days.
Snowygerry
Deity
Idk. I did not even know he was in Moscow, I just heard a report from Aleppo.
(edit, radio news here this morning confirmed he was indeed in Moscow, and was flown back as this affair started.)
Hard to see what Syria could offer Korea or vice versa.
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Fall of Mosul - Wikipedia
4 days . A week after the ISIL leader is killed . Sunni soldiers join . Kurdish soldiers run to save Kerkük which wouldn't be in any danger if Musul was held . 4000 Shia soldiers in a mass grave . New Turkey TV channels org_smic that ISIL is 20 kilometers to Baghdad . Basra next week . Didn't turn out that way , did it ?
Zardnaar
Deity
Hama has fallen apparently.
Akka
Moody old mage.
The speed of advance is pretty impressive. I wonder if Assad regime will find another way to bounce back or if it'll crumble.
Klaus Hergersheimer
King
Maybe so, if Assad falls. Though where would they go first? Iraq? Israel?
But so far I maintain my position that I dearly hope for both sides to lose.
Zardnaar
Deity
Russia.
Home becomes semi critical otherwise coast is cut off. That's Alawite territory iirc.
Aleppo is understandable but losing Hama seems more regime collapse.
Thorgalaeg
Deity
They are pushing for Homs it seems, cutting Assadland in half and isolating the Russian naval base in Tartus. Will be funny to see those bearded guys taking over there. The new Russian wannabee empire is crumbling fast, shortest 'empire' in history.
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