Modern Alliances

[aob86]

sorry completely blanked out thought I was in ww2.....

thought you were doing some island hopping in the Pacific uh? lol

 

[dacubz145]

thought you were doing some island hopping in the Pacific uh? lol

to make sure i get this right, were all of the countries at war at war with everone? so like was ottoman in war with france? were any only in war with some but not others?

also any ideas how to include this? america invaded mexico in 1914 which i was unaware of, the border wars lasted seven from years which was mostly just gorilla warfare but it seems like the battle of veracruz was a real battle, where america took a mexican city on the east coast. but i cant have them at war since thats overblowing it, i want to put it in tho since itll be kinda cool (america also invaded haiti in 1915, just for us to remember for future scenarios)

 

[aob86]

to make sure i get this right, were all of the countries at war at war with everone? so like was ottoman in war with france? were any only in war with some but not others?

also any ideas how to include this? america invaded mexico in 1914 which i was unaware of, the border wars lasted seven from years which was mostly just gorilla warfare but it seems like the battle of veracruz was a real battle, where america took a mexican city on the east coast. but i cant have them at war since thats overblowing it, i want to put it in tho since itll be kinda cool (america also invaded haiti in 1915, just for us to remember for future scenarios)

mmm i think they were all at war with each other but ud have to check that out but dont forget some didnt join until later
italy 1915
usa 1917
romania 1916
bulgaria 1915
greece 1917
portugal 1916

mmm, tough one, maybe give Veracruz to usa and put them on bad terms with mexico.
Mexican Revolution will need adding to the scenario in someway. i dont know much about it tho.
Haiti was part of the "banana wars" wasnt it?
something i missed off the map usa was occupying Nicaragua in 1914, also part of the banana wars.

 

[dacubz145]

mmm i think they were all at war with each other but ud have to check that out but dont forget some didnt join until later
italy 1915
usa 1917
romania 1916
bulgaria 1915
greece 1917
portugal 1916

mmm, tough one, maybe give Veracruz to usa and put them on bad terms with mexico.
Mexican Revolution will need adding to the scenario in someway. i dont know much about it tho.
Haiti was part of the "banana wars" wasnt it?
something i missed off the map usa was occupying Nicaragua in 1914, also part of the banana wars.

veracruz was part of the banana wars as well, i think alot of them were less usa owning it and them more having military there and influencing things, which i guess in civ is basically owning it. also there was a brazilian revolution diring this time period, if i remember right sounded similar to the mexican one, i think like 10,000 dead ofer 8 years?

 

[aob86]

veracruz was part of the banana wars as well, i think alot of them were less usa owning it and them more having military there and influencing things, which i guess in civ is basically owning it. also there was a brazilian revolution diring this time period, if i remember right sounded similar to the mexican one, i think like 10,000 dead ofer 8 years?

i didnt know if brazil was worth adding but if you want to add it then why not, make the scenario alot more accurate than the other ww1 ones ive tried

 

[dacubz145]

also i plan on taking off artillery and repeating rifles as techs for germany, since field guns and artillery are similar to trench infantry and infantry, trench infantry is WW1 and infantry is WW2 basically. Field guns are WW1 and artillery is WW2. Field guns are a tern thats generic, sort of like artillery. Field guns were used between 19th century and WW2, rarely used in WW2 and commonly used in WW1. All of the field gun UU are ww1 ones as well, and taking out repeating rifle because its to far advanced to have it with three techs required behind it, plus it really doesnt do anything important

 

[dacubz145]

i didnt know if brazil was worth adding but if you want to add it then why not, make the scenario alot more accurate than the other ww1 ones ive tried

I was thinking almost having a civ to represent the Rebels in Brazil, since it seems like all of south america is pointless, no wars or anything....

And ww1 scenarios? haha i havent even found taht many, yet alone havent played any. I got a feeling this will actually come out to be a pretty good scenario

I was thinking for that american/mexican battle, maybe have the city be under american control, but basically on the verge of culturally coming back to mexico (a revolution in the city as well as mostly mexican culture)

 

[aob86]

what scenario are you thinking of doing next?

 

[aob86]

I was thinking almost having a civ to represent the Rebels in Brazil, since it seems like all of south america is pointless, no wars or anything....

And ww1 scenarios? haha i havent even found taht many, yet alone havent played any. I got a feeling this will actually come out to be a pretty good scenario

I was thinking for that american/mexican battle, maybe have the city be under american control, but basically on the verge of culturally coming back to mexico (a revolution in the city as well as mostly mexican culture)

theres been a couple of ww1 scenarios and theres been a couple of ww1 mods, blood and iron was one of them.
i was thinking why not just some barbarian soilders in brazil, im sure you can find out where the rebel areas were.

 

[dacubz145]

what scenario are you thinking of doing next?

Id say 1915 or 1917, since it would be easy, 1917 because of thats when america joined

But beside WW1, probably something before WW2, because it would be easier and WW2 is all big, and it would make the conversion easier, and then WW2,

gonna try to complete1 914 in a couple weeks, and then we will see i guess

 

[dacubz145]

theres been a couple of ww1 scenarios and theres been a couple of ww1 mods, blood and iron was one of them.
i was thinking why not just some barbarian soilders in brazil, im sure you can find out where the rebel areas were.

Thats obvoiusly the smartest choice, but hmm seems like they would go away to quick. Plus barbarians are sort of pointless in my mod, i would delete them but if i do mod crashes

I honustly think a new civ is better now that i think about it. It would be unplayable, like a minor civ sort of, and wouldnt slow down game at all if we just place units, plus if they end up capturing a city, barbarians dont do much with it, having a civ will actually give brazil a lil competition

 

[aob86]

Id say 1915 or 1917, since it would be easy, 1917 because of thats when america joined

But beside WW1, probably something before WW2, because it would be easier and WW2 is all big, and it would make the conversion easier, and then WW2,

gonna try to complete1 914 in a couple weeks, and then we will see i guess

well something to bare in mind is i would still like to do 1920 and as for ww2, well its up to you but you can leave that to me for me as its one i know exactly what im talking about and should be able to do a pretty good job on it lol.

 

[aob86]

Thats obvoiusly the smartest choice, but hmm seems like they would go away to quick. Plus barbarians are sort of pointless in my mod, i would delete them but if i do mod crashes

I honustly think a new civ is better now that i think about it. It would be unplayable, like a minor civ sort of, and wouldnt slow down game at all if we just place units, plus if they end up capturing a city, barbarians dont do much with it, having a civ will actually give brazil a lil competition

that is a good idea but i good question with that is did the rebels actually capture any cities?

 

[dacubz145]

that is a good idea but i good question with that is did the rebels actually capture any cities?

Doubt it, atleast nothing major, it was mostly gorilla warfare, read up on it a while back, brazil is sort of interesting to me

anyway im redoing how you did the techs, since TV's really werent truly "invnented" (as in actually used) untill mid-late 20's i took out television and movie production. As well as submarines and a couple others. you have them be able to build submarines and not coastal submarines, which doesnt make much sence, im gonna redue it so it fits in more with the game and the techs aren't as randomly through the tech tree

 

[aob86]

Doubt it, atleast nothing major, it was mostly gorilla warfare, read up on it a while back, brazil is sort of interesting to me

anyway im redoing how you did the techs, since TV's really werent truly "invnented" (as in actually used) untill mid-late 20's i took out television and movie production. As well as submarines and a couple others. you have them be able to build submarines and not coastal submarines, which doesnt make much sence, im gonna redue it so it fits in more with the game and the techs aren't as randomly through the tech tree

i know i got tv wrong as it was invented in mid 20's but 1914 was in the middle of the silent film age so cant say there wasnt movies in 1914

 

[dacubz145]

well something to bare in mind is i would still like to do 1920 and as for ww2, well its up to you but you can leave that to me for me as its one i know exactly what im talking about and should be able to do a pretty good job on it lol.

Then you are welcome to do both of them. Im not sure what i will feel like doing when im finished. Im assuming i will be finished before you are ready to create again, so if i decide a WW2 one, i could do things like changing the cities (ex adding poland, of course if we do before polish invasion, assuming we start with that since between that and when the fighting with france happened not much switched so i think we should do both), and you could do the more complicated parts

 

[dacubz145]

i know i got tv wrong as it was invented in mid 20's but 1914 was in the middle of the silent film age so cant say there wasnt movies in 1914

Well movie production is more aimed toward "real" movies. Since the only thing it gives is lollywood (yess i plan on changing it to bolly wood) and hollywood, which both dont have much to do with nonsilent movies

 

[aob86]

Then you are welcome to do both of them. Im not sure what i will feel like doing when im finished. Im assuming i will be finished before you are ready to create again, so if i decide a WW2 one, i could do things like changing the cities (ex adding poland, of course if we do before polish invasion, assuming we start with that since between that and when the fighting with france happened not much switched so i think we should do both), and you could do the more complicated parts

Well i would say that we should do a few scenarios around ww2 and maybe even one just before start of ww2(for the west anyway). so i dont see why you cant be making a start on the first, even finish it if it comes to it, i can always make it accurate afterwards. it will save me alot of time if i just have to update 1939 rather than 1916. i think we should work together to make ww2 and save each other plenty of time.

 

[aob86]

Well movie production is more aimed toward "real" movies. Since the only thing it gives is lollywood (yess i plan on changing it to bolly wood) and hollywood, which both dont have much to do with nonsilent movies

i see what your saying but bollywood did make silent films and wasnt all the silent films made in hollywood then too?

 

[dacubz145]

Well i would say that we should do a few scenarios around ww2 and maybe even one just before start of ww2(for the west anyway). so i dont see why you cant be making a start on the first, even finish it if it comes to it, i can always make it accurate afterwards. it will save me alot of time if i just have to update 1939 rather than 1916. i think we should work together to make ww2 and save each other plenty of time.

I'll see what im in the mood for when i finish the 1914 one and ill tell you which one i plan on doing