Modern Misogyny

[Formaldehyde]

Unlike how Nancy Pelosi and Hillary Clinton are treated...

 

[classical_hero]

Or even Angela Merkel. I have not heard any of these three women complain about "misogyny". It is part of politics that the opposition to you will be going at you, of either sex.

 

[Quackers]

She fell over in India, i lold.

 

[NinjaCow64]

Or even Angela Merkel. I have not heard any of these three women complain about "misogyny". It is part of politics that the opposition to you will be going at you, of either sex.

It is also part of politics for the government to discredit the opposition in any way possible. If complaining about misogyny gets you more votes, then of course people are going to do it.

Although I think Tony Abbot did set himself up for this and he really did deserve it.

 

[classical_hero]

Although I think Tony Abbot did set himself up for this and he really did deserve it.

How? A man that regular gives time and money for women's charities. Surely that means he hates women.

 

[NinjaCow64]

How? A man that regular gives time and money for women's charities. Surely that means he hates women.

But the parts where he asks the question whether the amount of pay differences between men and womene a bad thing? Even if he isn't a sexist, it wasn't a very smart thing to say.

 

[Leoreth]

Or even Angela Merkel. I have not heard any of these three women complain about "misogyny". It is part of politics that the opposition to you will be going at you, of either sex.

Using someone's sex to attack them is at least sexism (that's like the definition of the term), and certainly not proper. Certain personality types react by ignoring the crap, others by pointing it out. I can see reasons for both options depending on the circumstances.

 

[Glassfan]

Mses. Pelosi, Clinton, Merkel and Gillard, as leaders of political factions, may be individually hated by opponents without reference to their gender or misogyny.

 

[classical_hero]

So you can't refer to a woman and a "she or her", so then we must use the impersonal "it" when speaking in public.

 

[NinjaCow64]

So you can't refer to a woman and a "she or her", so then we must use the impersonal "it" when speaking in public.

I'm really not sure what point you're trying to make here. Also, I'm pretty sure most women would get insulted by calling them it.

 

[Borachio]

No, we need a new gender neutral pronoun like s/he (no, that doesn't work), shim (I quite like).

How about heesh?

 

[Arwon]

Don't worry too much, c_h is being petty and local again.

 

[Borachio]

Well, maybe. But it's an interesting point that Ursula le Guin wrote about, amongst other things, quite well in The Dispossessed. The degendering of the language is tricky. But of course just because there are gendered pronouns and nouns in a language doesn't automatically mean those using them are sexist.

 

[Farm Boy]

Don't worry too much, c_h is being petty and local again.

I think that's probably not true. If we really want to fight misogyny we honestly could do better than to create petty and weak versions of the vagina monologues.

 

[classical_hero]

Don't worry too much, c_h is being petty and local again.

You haven't heard some of the complaints when the term "she" and "her" have been used.
http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politics/shortsighted-see-hate-at-every-turn-20121015-27mx9.html#ixzz29P2SFGbG

I agree with Summers it is ''terrible'' to call the Prime Minister a liar. However, when I asked her if she had expressed such a view when Howard was called a liar, she declined to answer the question. Summers also takes offence that, on occasions, Gillard is referred to as ''she'' or ''her'' and maintains that ''previous prime ministers were accorded the basic respect of being referred to by their last names''.

This is manifestly not so. Moreover, last Thursday Gillard used the words ''he'' and ''he's'' in one sentence when referring to Abbott.

This is normal conversation.

 

[NinjaCow64]

You haven't heard some of the complaints when the term "she" and "her" have been used.
http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politics/shortsighted-see-hate-at-every-turn-20121015-27mx9.html#ixzz29P2SFGbG

This isn't Gillard saying it though. It seems like it is one of her more extreme supporters saying it. I'm pretty sure Gillard isn't stupid enough to think that the word "she" is offensive...

 

[Visorslash]

You haven't heard some of the complaints when the term "she" and "her" have been used.
http://www.smh.com.au/opinion/politics/shortsighted-see-hate-at-every-turn-20121015-27mx9.html#ixzz29P2SFGbG

How the hell is the word she and her offensive? Can someone please explain this to me?

Also, the C-word is often used at least from my experience. I actually hear it not as a insult most of the time though.

I certainly won't be voting for Gillard or Bligh.

 

[NinjaCow64]

How the hell is the word she and her offensive? Can someone please explain this to me?

I have no idea. It's just stupid people being stupid.

Also, the C-word is often used at least from my experience. I actually hear it not as a insult most of the time though.

In my circle, we mainly use it to make fun of bogans. You know, saying "fully sick cs" in a stupid voice.

I certainly won't be voting for Gillard or Bligh.

Over this? If you're going by stuff like this, Abbot loses big time. In every other department as well.

 

[Rashiminos]

There's no easy way to say this guys: Australian accents are just *cringe*

Compared to most British accents I find Aussie/Kiwi accents to sound like sweet music. Some British accents remind me of the sounds of nails on chalkboards.

 

[kochman]

Compared to most British accents I find Aussie/Kiwi accents to sound like sweet music.

Agreed.