[MODMOD] Legacy of Erebus: Nuova Alba

[Valkrionn]

Only trait I dislike, would be that proposed for the Sheiam. It basically forces you to play AV... That might be the best religion for them, but I still dislike forcing players to do that.

 

[Opera]

I could easily tweak it (being python only) so that the "auto convert" part is only applied to the AI. And it could still be able to convert to another religion after.

 

[sputnik323]

Idea for the Amurites trait: Arcane units would gain XP according to the number of mana resources owned by the civilization.

By the way, any thoughts on the civilization traits?

Really like them... a lot, and think it would be cool to have any religion spread fast for Sheaim.

I like the Amurites trait - very fitting. - If Amurites + ever gets incorporated into orbi it would be cool to have a civ trait that lets them have less mages required for rituals and allow all civs to do channeling rituals

Thought of one for the Calabim: Blood letting = +1 per population. Hey when they use each other for food it makes sense

Lanun: Pirates' bounty = all ships get the bounty promotion

Belsaraphs: Odd discontent = unhappy population give +1

Ill try to think of more later...

 

[Opera]

I don't think the Sheaim would be "fast-spreaders" of any other religion but AV. I think I'll let the Sundered trait as I've tweaked it for know, waiting for feedback in order to tweak it again.

I'm not sure I like those Rituals from Amurites+. I mean, this is an interesting idea but 12 wizards to cast one spell not that powerful seems a bit much.

I thought of adding civtraits to all civilizations but I don't know if I should...

 

[Valkrionn]

Personally, I agree on Amurite+, though for different reasons. I love the idea, but it's something the AI could never use... Which is something I don't like.

Adding civtraits to all civs is a major balance issue, which is why I haven't tried yet... Mostly, I'd add them to weaker civs, and avoid the strong ones.

 

[Opera]

Which civs are weaker/stronger in your opinion, Valkrionn?

@Jabie: Would you have a pedia entry for your leader? And an idea of his personality?

 

[Jake the Peg]

IIRC, the Sidar hate undead so there should be a negative modifier for Calabim and Scions of Patria. I don't remember if the feeling is mutual, I think not.

 

[Valkrionn]

Which civs are weaker/stronger in your opinion, Valkrionn?

@Jabie: Would you have a pedia entry for your leader? And an idea of his personality?

That would be something I can't answer. Haven't played enough Orbis.

 

[Opera]

That would be something I can't answer. Haven't played enough Orbis.

And outside Orbis? Any thought?

 

[Valkrionn]

Hmm... Maybe Amurites, Luchuirp definitely, Kurios and Khazad as well... I also like the ones you proposed for the Sidar and Elohim.

 

[Jabie]

@Jabie: Would you have a pedia entry for your leader? And an idea of his personality?

Yes, I have a definite idea but i have to write it first. I may need to rope in one of the minor leaders from the Hippus to make it work.

As for personality, Talos, moreso than Verrochio, thinks and talks like a machine. Indeed he may be one. This is reflected in his lack of grammar. He states objects and verbs but won't necessarily bother with words he considers unimportant such as "the" and "is" For instance, a typical declaration of war might read: _TaRgEt NaTiOn ReQuIrEs ElImInAtIoN, aCcOrDaNcE tO pRoJeCt PrOtOcOl._

I'm thinking that every question in the diplomacy thread (e.g. offer of trade) ought to end Y/n

 

[Opera]

Yes, I have a definite idea but i have to write it first. I may need to rope in one of the minor leaders from the Hippus to make it work.

As for personality, Talos, moreso than Verrochio, thinks and talks like a machine. Indeed he may be one. This is reflected in his lack of grammar. He states objects and verbs but won't necessarily bother with words he considers unimportant such as "the" and "is" For instance, a typical declaration of war might read: _TaRgEt NaTiOn ReQuIrEs ElImInAtIoN, aCcOrDaNcE tO pRoJeCt PrOtOcOl._

I'm thinking that every question in the diplomacy thread (e.g. offer of trade) ought to end Y/n

What would you want to do with a minor Hippus? I have some ideas of who is Ilithiridan, so... I could see if she would fit or not

Go ahead and write Talos' diplotext too. I will add it

When I talked about personality, I was more thinking of how it could be reflected in game with the diplomacy mechanics, like how much he dislikes people who have his hated civic (which is?), how much he dislikes close borders, etc.

BTW, I would need his:

• Favorite Civic (how many + points?)
• Hated Civic (how many - points?)
• Favorite Wonder
• Alignment
• Quote for defeated popup

 

[sputnik323]

For some civ traits it seems like the work has already been done for many civs... For example - Illians getting food from snow and tundra - could just give it a name and call it a civ trait - or Hippus already get horselord promotions and bonuses to plains in their improvements. Like Valkrionn said, just give more of a boost to weaker or less flavored, less unique civs.

 

[Darksaber1]

I'm not Jabie, butMaybe he could have a penalty for any religeon? He is a Priest.

 

[Opera]

@Jake the Peg: I think I forgot to answer you... Are the Calabim really undeads? Otherwise, Sidar<>Scions is a good idea

@Sputnik: Yeah, I'll surely modify only weak civs...

@Darksaber: Don't agnostics like Cassiel already give a diplomalus to civs following a religion?

 

[Jake the Peg]

@Jake the Peg: I think I forgot to answer you... Are the Calabim really undeads? Otherwise, Sidar<>Scions is a good idea

I'm not quite sure actually, I don't think I've ever actually played Calabim and learned what they're really like. But back before I started playing Orbis and was introduced to Scions, I always thought Sidar's hatred of undead referred to Calabim, since they're vampires and use necromancy to summon skeletons.

 

[Ahwaric]

Vampires are not undead in FfH, just use a different way to prolongue their lives than Sidar.
I do not think summoning skeletons justifies diplo malus - it is already covered in death mana modifier (do sidar have any?)...

 

[Opera]

Yeah, that's what I thought. But the Sidar not liking Scions makes sense.

Anyway, I have added a new goodie. It's a tiny thing, yes, but I'm happy...

My mod is updated to 0.23. I just need to finish my new leaders personalities and I'll upload it. I postponed the RandomCompactLeaders component to .2, though.

 

[Seon]

Hated civic being Despotism is somewhat disagreeable (especially for the Bannor). And that also happens to be everyone's starting civic :s. Gotta watch out for him now

 

[Opera]

In fact, it's a test thing. I just decided I would use Despotism has test because it's the first civic you get, so I could easily see if it worked. I didn't change it yet, so it's still in for this screen...

Anyway, even if it were his Hated Civic, you wouldn't have to worry at first. A leader can't give you a "Your government is despicable" for a civic she's herself using. Hence, in the case of Sabathiel, at the start, since he would use Despotism too, he wouldn't be . .. .. .. .. .y about it