Monty won't stop!

[sbrylski06]

Monty launched the usual cross-continent attack on me in my latest Warlords game. (Monarch, Standard, I'm Mali.)

Luckily, the geography and his open border treaties basically funnelled him into attacking one city, so by concentrating all my troops right there I'm fairly easily fending him off with a decent stockpile of Skirmishers and Axemen. He can't do much at the city, and if he tries to dart past it, there's some open ground I can easily pick him off.

It's been like 35 turns, I've killed over 40 of his Jags, Axes, and Chariots, and he has barely made a dent on my military. Yet he shows no signs of stopping. There's 12 more units headed at my border.

I'm tired of it - I'm really starting to fall behind. How can I get him to stop this madness?

(He's cross-continent and in an area with a different religion. I don't have the open borders to launch an offensive.)

 

[Kuma_Pageworks]

Monty launched the usual cross-continent attack on me in my latest Warlords game. (Monarch, Standard, I'm Mali.)

Luckily, the geography and his open border treaties basically funnelled him into attacking one city, so by concentrating all my troops right there I'm fairly easily fending him off with a decent stockpile of Skirmishers and Axemen. He can't do much at the city, and if he tries to dart past it, there's some open ground I can easily pick him off.

Not seeing your geography - (can you post a screenshot?) - my only recommendation is to build a fortress on a hill, or get a castle and other defenses on a city, and post a siege engine there. You're playing defense, so play defense - get high, get walls, and try to keep him off you with as few units as possible.

If you have the choice, consider sacrificing a city to get a better defensive position. Also, work diplomacy on a powerful neighbor, and get your religion in line with either a powerful neighbor of Monty's, or his own. I recently got Egypt involved in keeping Monty at bay by switching religions and bribing the crap out of them with luxury resources. One declaration of war later, Monty suddenly had a two-front problem on his hands.

It's been like 35 turns, I've killed over 40 of his Jags, Axes, and Chariots, and he has barely made a dent on my military. Yet he shows no signs of stopping. There's 12 more units headed at my border.

I'm tired of it - I'm really starting to fall behind. How can I get him to stop this madness?

(He's cross-continent and in an area with a different religion. I don't have the open borders to launch an offensive.)

If he's not making that big a dent in your military, then is it really a problem? What's slowing you down?

 

[KMadCandy]

I don't have the open borders to launch an offensive.

you said he's in an area with a different religion so this probably won't work in your case. but i've heard that anybody you're in a mutual war with will sign open borders with you immediately. so if you could bribe one of his neighbors in, that would open a path, if it's true. i haven't tested it.

 

[sbrylski06]

Not seeing your geography - (can you post a screenshot?) - my only recommendation is to build a fortress on a hill, or get a castle and other defenses on a city, and post a siege engine there. You're playing defense, so play defense - get high, get walls, and try to keep him off you with as few units as possible.

If you have the choice, consider sacrificing a city to get a better defensive position. Also, work diplomacy on a powerful neighbor, and get your religion in line with either a powerful neighbor of Monty's, or his own. I recently got Egypt involved in keeping Monty at bay by switching religions and bribing the crap out of them with luxury resources. One declaration of war later, Monty suddenly had a two-front problem on his hands.

I'm doing fine fending him off, so defensive strategy is not really an issue for me right now.

If he's not making that big a dent in your military, then is it really a problem? What's slowing you down?

Well, I can't send workers to my two northern cities, so their just sitting there being nothings. My two main production cities are spitting out units, but I've got two others also providing the needed military support. Of these four core cities, two are unhappy and three are quite unhealthy. Its just a drain on everything to keep up the confrontation when the battles do essentially nothing for me - and I'm a little behind to begin with due to a small very early war for territory. Because of this, my only same religion neighbor on the war side is also not pleased with me.

I'm not sure there is a solution to this problem, other than just wait for him to stop. I'm capable of fending him off, but it just puts me in such a standstill. I'm not particularly well liked world wide, can't switch religions because only one is present.

 

[Bhruic]

Personally I'd have him keep at it. As long as he isn't doing any real damage, then it actually works in your favour. Because:
A) He's not attacking his neighbours and gaining more land/cities/power, and
B) He's get a lot of War Weariness from attacking you.

Both of those combined means he'll be falling farther and farther behind, and becoming less and less of a threat. And the last thing you want is a threatening Shaka. Ideally I'd keep it up until you (and the rest of the world) is pretty far ahead of him, tech wise, then end the war. You'll be able to easily bribe him to end it, even if he's unwilling to do so for "free".

Or, at that point you could take KMadCandy's advice and get someone else involved.

Bh

 

[joasoze]

Sometimes these situations can give you superunits with lots of xp. If he is attacking you without really killing anything, you dont need to produce new units.

 

[sbrylski06]

Finally, he stopped! What a weirdo too, right after he switched to my religion and now he's all buddy buddy.

And Bhruic was right, he's very far behind in tech now.

 

[KMadCandy]

two fairly reliable things there. can't always count on either one, but 8 times out of 10 or so.

• Monty being a crazy weirdo

• Bhruic being right

have fun!

 

[Airefuego]

I guess some other points here are: - try to avoid your situation "I'm not particularly well liked world wide" (easier said than done sometimes, i know)

Also consider giving up your religion and going back to paganism if you need to... although if you were running Theocracy for the 2XP with Monty coming at you, it would be a hard button to press...