Most despicable thing you have ever done to your or another civ

[capnvonbaron]

So, what I did to Hammi in this last game I feel kind of bad for, since Hammi and I usually get along very well in most of my games.

I start as Liz on a large continent with huge expanses of turf to the north and just a little bit of decent land to the south, with Hammi hanging onto the southernmost tip of the continent. After settler rushing a pair of fairly awesome spots south and west of me, and denying Hammi access to the rest of the continent with closed borders, Hammi ended up with only two cities on the main continent. He made the best of it, expanding two more cities into a small but lucrative island chain off his coast. Amazingly, he snagged TGLH and actually out-teched me to theology... or bulbed it maybe with a henge GP.

Anyway, I successfully whipped the GWall because barbs were storming in from the north, and built Oracle for CoL just because. Spread Confucianism to Hammi, and he actually became Friendly with me. The GWall unsurprisingly produced a GSpy which I settled into Babylon, then proceeded to steal half of Hammi's techs with 100% success... including the two tools of Hammi's soon-to-be demise.... IW and Construction. He had only bowmen... no metal/horses... but I did. A few rounds of whipping and I had a dozen cats and swords ready, and the spies went in to lead successful city revolts. Hammi's two mainland cities were mine in under a dozen turns with only a few suicide-cat losses... Babylon holding henge, TGLH, GLIB, an academy, and the AP... and Akkad was the Christian holy city.

Worse, Hammi was still Pleased with me after he sued for peace... giving me hundreds of gold, archery and meditation. I still didn't open borders with him either, lol. Sorry Hammi.

 

[SamSniped]

nice one! I played a very interesting game with Unrestricted Leaders. Long story short, I conquered my continent as Washington of Byzantium by ROFLstomping and backstabbing Survayaraman, Wang Kon, and Alexander repeatedly. I then turned my attention to the east, where Shaka (painfully backwards), Augustus, and Mansa were waiting. I nearly wiped out Shaka, but then Mansa joined in and-get ready to be shocked-SHAKA capitulated to MANSA. Shaka thought he was safe, but I waited a few turns for my SoD to heal, and then delcared war on Shaka/Mansa. Shaka died, Mansa capitulated, and Augustus was gone on a few minutes.

I seriously have to share that save some day

 

[JBryan314]

Actually, now that I think of it, I've not built the AP one time since switching to BTS from Warlords. But whoever does build it, gets that city razed by me shortly afterwards. A few minutes ago, Ghandi built it. So I took a galleon full of infantry and 5 frigates for overwatch protection of the galleon (I know, overkill). So I place the stack just outside of the waters of Delhi and use some privateers to wipe out his caravels. Then in goes the stack. The frigates bombard Delhi for two turns while the infantry land and wait for one turn then attack on the next. Ghandi was able to get a couple additional units over there but it was too late. I killed them too, razed Delhi, destroyed the ruins and the roads, jumped my infantry back on the galleon and sailed the whole stack right back out while my privateers cleaned up the last few caravels. Then I made peace and made him give me 450 gold just because. And he was still pleased. That is typically the sequence of events that happens to any AI who builds AP against me.

 

[oldskald]

Hmm. I suppose it was desthpicable! No, it was definitely desthpicable! Or at least Machiavellian.

On a far continent I noticed, during my travels, that Rameses was sandwiched between Toku and Ghengis. Each of them had a different religion (I forget which, but it doesn't matter), and were a similar size (about 10 cities). Come the early Industrial Age I loaded up the ships with rifles and cavalry and cannon and sailed them over to poor, peaceful Rameses and declared war. His cities soon fell to my veteran troops and I was faced with the maintenance costs for my new province. But not to worry - I had a plan. I progressively gifted all the ex-Egyptian cities, except one on a peninsular which I kept. They were given in turn to Toku and Ghengis, and where once they had no common border, they were now engaged in a culture war. The culture war soon turned into a hot war, as I had previously noticed that Toku and Ghengis were already worst enemies.

And I sat on my peninsular, reinforcing like crazy and ignoring their calls for help until I judged the moment correct. They had worn each other down, so I waited until the next time Toku wanted a chat - he was more than happy to accept anyone's help at that point - and I graciously accepted his invitation to join the war. My army stormed through Mongol lands, and I now kept my gains, only to then turn on Toku and I wiped him out too. A quick switch to State Property allowed the economy to function, and a short war later (with Bismarck, if my memory serves me right), and I had a domination victory.

Was I terrible? If you asked the Egyptians, Japanese and Mongols, I guess they'd say yes. But I just love it when a plan comes together.

 

[Sir Sam Vimes]

Sheer brilliance...

 

[rah]

I am like a few others that always feels (really momentarily ) that twinge of guilt when backstabbing your game-long BUDDY.

 

[s.bernbaum]

I am like a few others that always feels (really momentarily ) that twinge of guilt when backstabbing your game-long BUDDY.

I've actually let an AI win now and then that I could have back stabbed. It just goes against my grain to back stab a long time friend. However, if the AI in question has been a great buddy this game but did me dirt in a prior game….. they're toast.

 

[rah]

Using that rational, every civ is always toast.

 

[s.bernbaum]

^^^ for the most part true. But an AI that has not been a pain for a long time and is a buddy in my game, might get to win, if it manages to sneak in a culture victory, because I hate to back stab a true friend. I think it has happened twice.

 

[Manfred Belheim]

After nearly 6,000 years of peace and friendly relations with my neighbour, France, I got a bit fed up of his steadily encroaching borders strangulating my Western-most cities. So I launched a nuclear assault on him, rolled in my ground troops, and razed all his nearby cities to the ground just to get my land back. I suppose that was a bit harsh by real world standards Of course, if there'd been an option to have peaceful negotiations about border demarcations I wouldn't have had to do that.

Actually that was an interesting game all round. There were two continents with 5 or 6 civs on each. On my continent there had never been a war in the whole game (until then) and we were all on very friendly terms with each other, despite having different religions. The other continent was constantly warring amongst themselves from time immemorial, despite all having the same religion.

 

[Radio Noer]

Perhaps not too bad, but pretty cool.

I was playing the American Mod on an Earth 18 civs map and had let the game autorun for 400 odd turns. I decided that war was the final option to get rid of the Traitor Republic in North Europe, who were vassals of the Duthc. Well, the dutch didn't like that and landed a sizeable force of modern armors and marines near one of my cities, taking it and moving down the coastline. In a brilliant act of military strategy, I blocked his advance with a tank and a couple of helicopters while a large (20+) stack of mobile artillery waited. He took the bait, attacked the tank and his stack moved right into the range of the ranged bombardment of the Mobile Artilleries. One massive barrage later and I mopped up his stack with the remaining helicopters I had.

 

[Zx Zero Zx]

I razed every single city that the whole world built, and won the game with a whole 3 cities.

 

[Abegweit]

I razed every single city that the whole world built, and won the game with a whole 3 cities.

Next time try that as an OCC. I've pulled it off on Immortal.

 

[Zx Zero Zx]

Next time try that as an OCC. I've pulled it off on Immortal.

>.> OCC makes me go all herp derp mode and build all the wonders.

 

[Abegweit]

True dat. But you can finish it off with a huge tank rush. It was a lot easier back when tanks had collateral damage. But it can still be done in 3.19. Modern armour + mobile artillery =

 

[CocoIsKing28]

The most despicable thing I have ever done was when I was playing as the Romans. To my south, the large civ of Sury lay, and to my west lay the Vikings. By the time I discovered every civ, I was leading by a large gap. I wasn't the biggest civ, but was certainly the most advanced. I had developed good relations with other civs (like the Chinese and the Greeks), but Sury and Ragnar hated me. So, when I got nukes before everyone else, I started building up my nuclear forces. After I got a few(plus a bunch of marines) I declared war on Sury and obliterated him with my nukes. After one exploded, I would pump out another, and another, and another. After each of his 14+ pop cities where down to the lowest pop possible, I too them and razed them. After that, I was war hungry. I declared war on everyone, even my best friends. I blew the crap out of the Chinese, and razed the viking "empire". However, when all of my weapons and soldiers where gone, I retreated all of my men to my capitol. There I created a few nukes and bombed my other cities before anyone took them. Soon, I made peace with everyone, and LOST!

 

[Zx Zero Zx]

True dat. But you can finish it off with a huge tank rush. It was a lot easier back when tanks had collateral damage. But it can still be done in 3.19. Modern armour + mobile artillery =

I absolutely hate late game warring. >.> SO FREAKING MANY DUDES. Like holy I don't want to have to kill 6 stacks to take 1 city.

 

[r_rolo1]

>.> OCC makes me go all herp derp mode and build all the wonders.

Try OCC-AW

 

[uat2d]

I absolutely hate late game warring. >.> SO FREAKING MANY DUDES. Like holy I don't want to have to kill 6 stacks to take 1 city.

Really?

What I find really awful is when the AI's defenses consist of nothing more of a couple of archers. Civ3 was better in this aspect because it focused more on quantity than in quality, entire civilizations didn't disappear from the map just because of a small stack that attacked at the right time.

 

[capnvonbaron]

I love getting to flight and radio first, its usually not too hard on Monarch. Bombers+cavs+infantry vs. infantry at BEST (usually rilfes/grenadeers) = extremely quick wars