Most evil person in history

[Masada]

The most evil people are the ones who do not even attempt to rationalize or justify why they did what they did. It's one thing to hide behind ideology and world view. Its another thing to do horrible things... for no discernible reason.

Correction from before: Jesus Christ is the most evil person in the world. His religion caused the era of European domination of the globe, and it was during this era that more people died, more wars were fought, and more knowledge and culture was lost that in any other. Because of his actions we have Hitler, Stalin, Mao, and any other bad guy you can think.

Whut? You might as well blame the Jews, Zoroaster, the Middle East, the Levant and carpentry for that one... How exactly did "His Religion" cause the European domination of the world? Seriously?

Heck by that token lets blame sedentary farming... I mean seriously we wouldn't have had religion if it weren't for that...

 

[Dachs]

Correction from before: Jesus Christ is the most evil person in the world. His religion caused the era of European domination of the globe, and it was during this era that more people died, more wars were fought, and more knowledge and culture was lost that in any other. Because of his actions we have Hitler, Stalin, Mao, and any other bad guy you can think.

So which of those wars were actually fought because of Christianity? Have you any idea of the knowledge and culture that was saved or generated by that religion? And why the devil are you connecting three non-Christian dudes with Jesus?

 

[LightSpectra]

Correction from before: Jesus Christ is the most evil person in the world. His religion caused the era of European domination of the globe, and it was during this era that more people died, more wars were fought, and more knowledge and culture was lost that in any other. Because of his actions we have Hitler, Stalin, Mao, and any other bad guy you can think.

Woop woop! Angstheist alert!

 

[Tee Kay]

But the high end for the amount of people Mao killed sometimes goes up to 80 million. I, myself, would argue for a figure closer to 60 million, and some people would go lower than that. But it's not some outrageous claim.

Most of the deaths was due to famine though. More idiotic misrule than evil.

 

[Virote_Considon]

I'd say Pol Pot. He killed people for wearing glasses, just because they looked "too clever".

 

[Huayna Capac357]

Correction from before: Jesus Christ is the most evil person in the world.

No he's not and here's why:

His religion caused the era of European domination of the globe,

No, agriculture and domestication, leading to sedentary peoples, and thus high population density, writing and other technology, and centralized states, which lead to guns, epidemics, and steel weapons and industrial states arising first in West Eurasia is the reason for European domination. Jesus had nothing to do with it.

and it was during this era that more people died, more wars were fought, and more knowledge and culture was lost that in any other.

I'll give you the first two (however, these have nothing to do with Jesus), but I would argue, as would any real historian and/or person who had any history education at all, that the years of 1500-now have produced the most technology and culture than any other time. We went from telegrams to the Internet in but 150 years, we went from bleeding people to today's medicine in 120 years, we went from the Dark Ages to the Industrial Age in only around 300 years and mapped the entire Western Hemisphere in only around 200 years. We went from minstrels and ballads to Shakespeare in the blink of an eye, we saw the eruption of representative democracy throughout the world right in the midst of the age of absolutism, in the 1500s-1600s we saw physics, chemistry, astronomy, and modern mathematics burst forth from mythology and in the 1700s we saw the humanities, sociology, economics, linguistics, anthropology, and the modern study of history transform the way we see humanity and the universe around us. Modern religions, such as Protestantism, Sikhism, Deism, Agnosticism, and Atheism, formed and caused debate that continues to this day. Emancipation, human rights, ideas based on the Enlightenment, swept over the world, so that few nations have slaves and none have so many as the CSA. Painting went from painting 2-D Madonnas and Child to beautiful 3-D expressions of human feeling and every aspect of the human experience straight to today's conceptual and abstract art, which challenges man's brain and makes himself consider his place in the universe. In this period, we went from a pre-industrial, backwards planet to one that can reach the moon.

Because of his actions we have Hitler, Stalin, Mao, and any other bad guy you can think.

Unless one believes that Jesus is the creator of all humans, then this sentence has no meaning. Not to mention none of these men were Christians, especially Mao. Jesus preached a message of love, forgiveness, kindness to the poor, and of rejecting greed and material wealth. These megalomaniacs had none of these qualities, and none of them are Jesus's fault.

 

[RedRalph]

IMO it's a close call between Hitler and Stalin. But counted by just the number of victims Stalin wins easily.

BTW, saying Hitler personally is solely responsible for WW II is historically incorrect. He intended to start war, yes; but he could have been stopped earlier than after 6 years of world war.

no, he dosent. hitler killed more people.

 

[Huayna Capac357]

You didn't read my epic post! (Though I've far longer)

 

[appian]

If we're just arguing pure numbers then that's easy - Mao Zedong killed a flipping 40-80 million.

If we're talking about some abstract "most evil," that's much more difficult. There are people who were by far more sadistic than Hitler ever was like (at least Hitler liked the Germans), say, Dr. Marcel Petiot or any number of other serial killers. Some members of Hitler's own administration were more sadistic than he. To say which one of these is most evil is too subjective to call.

If you want to combine the "subjective" psychotic/deranged/evil factor with the numbers factor then probably Hitler.

 

[Bugfatty300]

Yawn.

Why is it that people always look at body counts and statistics? Evil shouldn't be defined by how many people you kill (through your ideology, orders, whatever). It's a personal characteristic, albeit an abstract one but it's mostly to do with lack of empathy for other living things. Not even Hitler was very remarkable in that regard. I'm sure Stalin and Mao were capable of love and compassion at times.

There are some people through history (classical and recent contemporary) who didn't have even the slightest shred of empathy for anyone but themselves and truly benefited emotionally from causing direct suffering and pain of others. Elizabeth Bathory for example. Mao, Pol Pot, Stalin and Hitler, ect. Pretty bad guys who where responsible for a lot of deaths. Where they the most "evil" human's who ever lived? Probably not.

 

[Azale]

If we're just arguing pure numbers then that's easy - Mao Zedong killed a flipping 40-80 million.

Where did you get those numbers? I thought the high end estimates were around 30 million.

Still, I would not place Mao near Stalin or Hitler on the "evil scale". I would place him slightly above Stalin and below Hitler on the "general incompetence scale" however.

Also, Jesus Cristobal. This thread got Jesus'd before the second page. I lost my bet

 

[MagnusImperious]

Correction from before: Jesus Christ is the most evil person in the world. His religion caused the era of European domination of the globe, and it was during this era that more people died, more wars were fought, and more knowledge and culture was lost that in any other. Because of his actions we have Hitler, Stalin, Mao, and any other bad guy you can think.

Wow people. Flip out about Jesus why don't ya?
I don't think Jesus is actually the most evil person in the world. I was just joking.
I really think there is no evilest person in history because one non evil action can cause a chain of events that results in the most evil action imaginable. So there is no evilest person in the world. There is simply a fusion of many evils that is released at the same time under the right circumstances.

 

[bestbrian]

Hmmmm, I've got an ex-wife I'm not all that fond of.

 

[Cheezy the Wiz]

Correction from before: Jesus Christ is the most evil person in the world. His religion caused the era of European domination of the globe, and it was during this era that more people died, more wars were fought, and more knowledge and culture was lost that in any other. Because of his actions we have Hitler, Stalin, Mao, and any other bad guy you can think.

LOL.

Whether you the name you insert is Muhummad, Jesus, or whatever is irrelevant. Wars are very rarely fought because of religious zeal, there are always practical political motives that far outshadow any religious motivation.

 

[RedRalph]

LOL.

Whether you the name you insert is Muhummad, Jesus, or whatever is irrelevant. Wars are very rarely fought because of religious zeal, there are always practical political motives that far outshadow any religious motivation.

But religious motivation often has justified wars that otherwise would not have been fought.

 

[carmen510]

I will not argue religious figureheads are indeed evil in any sense, only the extremists that follow such religions zealously. More casualties does not equal more evil. If that was true, the United States would be one of the evilest nations in the world.

I believe evil should be those who enjoyed killing or torturing for the sake of torture. I think that life-long torture is a far worse crime than killing. This would include psychological torture, such as that of a rape victim.

Having said that, Stalin and Mao should be excluded from the list. We must also eliminate such casualties not directly due to a person's hand, such as Hitler and World War Two. Hitler indeed caused the war, but he did not directly kill every single person. Americans, British, Soviets, etc did so too. That is not to say any of these people were evil, but we must look for the evilest. I've read some various accounts of eviler people, but I cannot recall such a name as of yet.

 

[Dachs]

But religious motivation often has justified wars that otherwise would not have been fought.

Got an example?

 

[generalstaff]

Well, by body count alone it is either going to be Hitler, Mao, or Stalin (depending on which death's you count as being purposeful), however, the reason why the general opinion why one of them is the most evil in my opinion is because they managed to gain a high position of power.

In my opinion, the most evil person probably is not a world leader, but a common mass murderer or serial killer (there are too many to choose from for me to settle on one).

 

[say1988]

Hitler, Mao, Stalin, not really evil. Bad, horrible men, but from my knowledge they all killed for a reason, not the for the sake of killing. While many of their reasons are flimsy, horrible, and despicable, or the number of deaths is exorbitant as compared to their goals, they had reasons beyond simply killing.

Even most serial killers aren't truly evil. They have their reasons, be they insane or whatever. I can't think of any for certain off the top of my head, but the few truly evil people kill just to kill and for the pleasure of killing.

 

[generalstaff]

Even most serial killers aren't truly evil. They have their reasons, be they insane or whatever. I can't think of any for certain off the top of my head, but the few truly evil people kill just to kill and for the pleasure of killing.

Well, there are serial killers who do gain pleasure out of killing and torturing, just watch the Most Evil show on ID Discovery if you get that channel, it is pretty good.