Multipolarity III - Game Thread

The Iron Alliance


"The Republic of Romney is proud to announce the formation of the "Iron Alliance", a military Union dedicated to strength, unity, and international influence. We shall stand strong, together!

Members include the Blood Empire, The Romney Republic, Tropico, and Algeria."

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And so the division of the world into blocs begins... :mwaha:

@ Ravus:

The 14th, yes. Or if I get orders from everyone. Whichever comes first.
 
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"Romney demands that both the Papacy and Namibia lift their embargoes from Manx. We won't sit idly by while your trade partner is unjustly deprived of income due to religious concerns.

Do it. Or else."
 
Jung Dynasty

The Jung Emperor and his cabinet have been arrested by several military leaders. The monarchy wields vast power and the capability to use it for the good of all, but has only enriched the few. As such, several of the monarchy’s leaders are due to face trial for their crimes, and possibly face execution. The Emperor is not to be executed so as to avoid creating martyrs, and shall live under house arrest in “The Block,” a rundown slum on the outskirts of the capital, where he shall be the sole resident. Let his new palace reflect the lifestyle he cast so many of his subjects into.

The Republic of Shanghai has been declared. The values of democracy, responsible government, and nationalism are to be enshrined. The blind loyalty to the Papacy is hereby discontinued; while good relations will still be sought with the Holy See, it is to be treated as another state and not the arbiter of morality that it once was.

OOC: Kinich has dropped due to lack of interest. Jung has ruptured.

Guangdong

Dragon Emperor Spike has declared that Guangdong is to now be known as the Long Dynasty of China, with Spike I as the Emperor of China.

Wuhan

King George has proclaimed himself Emperor George I of China. Obviously only a human is worthy of the title of Emperor.

Tsingtao

Agreeing with Wuhan's argument, Queen Regina II has declared herself Queen of China, as there can only be an Empress in Japan. Only sane humans deserve to be the monarch of China.

Lanzhou

Great Philosopher Ma Fei has reluctantly agreed to take on the title of Emperor of China at the suggestion of his advisors. The other three claimants are of questionable sanity and moral fiber.
 
Lanzhou

Great Philosopher Ma Fei has reluctantly agreed to take on the title of Emperor of China at the suggestion of his advisors. The other three claimants are of questionable sanity and moral fiber.

"Ma Fei does not seem to be eager to rule, and lacks a trait called "ambition". His request to be Emperor of China has been denied.

His advisors are to be executed immediately."

Wuhan

King George has proclaimed himself Emperor George I of China. Obviously only a human is worthy of the title of Emperor.

"I, Romney, am a human, therefore human = good. Romney backs Wuhans emperorness."

Tsingtao

Agreeing with Wuhan's argument, Queen Regina II has declared herself Queen of China, as there can only be an Empress in Japan. Only sane humans deserve to be the monarch of China.

"Awww, how adorable. King George and Queen Regina II. Romney approves a Queen (who is obviously subservient to man, given that God has allowed Mormons, his Preferred race, to have multiple wives), and may the two lovebirds prosper evermore."

Guangdong

Dragon Emperor Spike has declared that Guangdong is to now be known as the Long Dynasty of China, with Spike I as the Emperor of China.

"Spike is not a human, and his dynasty reeks of promiscuous, sexual connotation. Such a creep and pedophile is not fit to rule. In addition, Spike approves of bestiality, a sin that grants automatic access to the fiery infernos of Hell."
 
Lanzhou

General Ma Feng warns that if Romnesian forces set foot in Lanzhou territory, they will be the only ones who end up reintegrating with the Dao. And Lanzhou's alliance with Romnesia might be... damaged.

Lanzhou, being a sovereign - if not suzerain - state, will continue to assert the Emperorship.

Regina Ferrum - Tsingtao

Yuck! I will never be that George guy's wife. Also, I'm a Queen Regnant. Tsingtao also declares an embargo on Romnesia for sexist ideologies until such a remark is apologized for.

Handmade sympathy cards are accepted.

Spike - Long Dynasty

Dear President Romney, you will notice we have declared your say in our politics illegitimate. We are also the foremost of the states proclaiming themselves Emperor of China. Might making right, and Dragons being symbolic of the Emperor, it is obvious that I am the best choice.
 
Regina Ferrum - Tsingtao

Yuck! I will never be that George guy's wife. Also, I'm a Queen Regnant. Tsingtao also declares an embargo on Romnesia for sexist ideologies until such a remark is apologized for.

"Here is my apology card:"

Spoiler :
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"I am thinking of a number 1 through 4. Winner gets to be China. Pick away!"
 
... Why is she boiling water with nothing in it?
 
Responses to Shanghai and Romnesia

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To the Republic of Shanghai

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Although we are dissapointed at the nature of the Jung Dynasty's otherthrow and at its intention of ending the close relationship that existed between the Holy See and the nation, the Holy See sees no reason not to continue good relationships with Shanghai so long as the Catholic truths upheld by its people are respected and affirmed. As has been the constant teaching of the Church temporal government is separate from the ecclesiastical. Furthermore we agree with the new regime that good governance and patriotism are praiseworthy values when properly expressed.

To the new leaders and to the Catholic populace however, we would reaffirm that as Catholics and members of the society of Christians they remain bound by the authority of the Supreme Pontiff in matters concerning the Church, in accordance with the infallible dogma's previously expressed in the dispute with the Emperor of Mann. As such although Shanghai like all states is free to engage in its own policies, its leaders, and its people are morally compelled as christians to uphold the teachings of the faith in their actions, and where they stray the Church and most pertinently the Holy Father have the solemn duty as pastors of souls to provide fraternal correction.

sincerely

Pope Pius XXV

To President Romney

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The Holy See rejects absolutely Romnesian pretension to dominion over all that exists, and reaffirms its soveriegn right to engage in whatever temporal actions it wishes against those nations that engage in acts contrary to our interests. Furthermore the Divine Law of the Eternal and Everliving God transcends all mortal enterprises and artifacts, obedience to God transcends the vagaries and evershifting allegiances of the earthly realm.

The Holy See however would clarify that after the death of the Emperor the onus on whether the temporal chastisement of the Holy See remains on the Imperium of Mann rests upon that nations leadership, just as the fate of your own soul rests upon whether you enter into the Catholic Church, communion with which is necessary for salvation.

sincerely

Secretariat for Relations with States.
 
We warn Romney to not mess with Far Eastern matters as he does not want anybody to mess with West African matters. Japan will protect by any means necessary the sovereignty of the many Chinese nations, and we are disgusted at your disrespect of women and most importantly the leader of our close trade partner Tsingtao.
 
I, Prince Bishop Nicolas Gell of Peel, is by directive as regent to His Imperial Majesty Magnus Flanagon and as temporal Chief Imperial Advisor to thee… I decree to respond to concerns around the world which the Imperium must take account of. In memory of Gilmore we of the Imperium are reflective of ourselves. Hence we are in a state of grand peace seeking, as even Gilmore from his critics point of view had attempted to follow the peaceful path, in confession without consideration of maintaining the peace I must add.

As to His Holiness’s request… I am confessing that I as an individual did enjoy the idea of Gilmore’s antipope policy for myself. Let now I see the error of my power lust and now summit myself to the moral judgement of the Pope. As for the other contributors our secret police will locate all and commence them to give repent or be stripped of all titles, with a ticket to a labour camp. The new Emperor Magnus has declared that we will not follow the crimes of the father. The Imperium will be made pure, its crimes cleaned with holy fury as we set to make those who dishonour the Imperium repent. The Imperium itself will set the confessions. We will in the end see all guilty party repent or face punishment. This along with the investigations into the assassination of Gilmore will secure the moral willingness of Magnus as he will lead us fully when he comes of age next year. Whatever the case the Imperium will redeem itself as we give to God what is God’s, as Caesar is given what belongs to Caesar. The moral authority of the Papal States will be maintained. The Imperium will earn its forgiveness. May I be condemned if I fail to guide His Imperial Majesty to your moral considerations. We have rejected the sins of Gilmore, including his plans for unholy alliances with infidel forces of blood and of the heretic disrespect to papal ways. The Imperium repents for its sins.

The Canadian government: are you serious that war hungry?! As we have pointed out a lot the Imperium has made Newfoundland an important colony, with its population benefiting from the collective wealth of the Imperium, seeing new infrastructure being deployed within Newfoundland that came about thanks to the gas, oil and steel industries. Your plans to “reunite Canada” had involved threatening also Solitude. Hence we would suggest you do not take the rhetoric road of foolish ideological zeal but instead take the realpolikal path of realising the virtue of content over Newfoundland’s current ownership notions, with you realising us as trade partners. We refused to sell Newfoundland: threatening us with war will let not haste us to sell. If you think we would give up gold that can gained via produce from Newfoundland then you are seriously not aware of a subject called economics. We are also aware that you seem to be willing to kill off your own people by setting them into a pointless war. Your ideology only destroys you. I suggest you do consider peace or you will force our hand. Once our hand is forced their will be no telling of what form of punishment you will receive. I am a man of peace by the Pope’s teaching. His Imperial Majesty as also been set to moral principle, as well as the military lessons provided to him and the political skills supplied by Lonan Nelson of Rushan, who I say I wonder where he is now. We of the Imperium want peace but peace is logically set out with our owning of Newfoundland, for we never faced threat when we began to colonise the isle back in 2500. Hence you should take the road of peace and life with Newfoundland as Manx. We are not enslaving the population of Newfoundland but defending and enriching them greater than your war focused economy could. We will not give up what we developed! You will accept peace or you may learn that invading a country often risks the result of being overwhelmed by a counterattack. Hence accept peace as we desire peace.

Dear Mr Romney… I am in issue you want peace but we are not interested in selling Newfoundland, especially at the miserable price that you in an odd state of misjudgement purposed. We can only stop war convincing the Canadians to stop taking their ideological zealot ways to aggressive high, with our plans of deterrence set with the formation of the likes of the Order of Sovereigns, which we will open to you and the Papal States if they wish to join. As for your Iron Alliance we are wondering of its notion with the Papal States. I personally suggest all Catholic nations should follow the Papal States’ example and join the Order of Sovereigns. As for Romney we suggest he seeks good terms with the Papal States, for they will have grand influence. Consider this for as we continue our grand trade with you.

To El Presidente of Tropico I have a declaration. The Emperor has declared we must bond closer. Magnus will need a wife for when he is 16. He has taken note of Gilmore’s idea of seeking marriage with your family El Presidente. Seeing you as a fellow Catholic power that respects order and capitalism. Hence we suggest one of your female relatives, someone around 15 or 14 (the Emperor is currently 15 and will be 16 over the early course of next year) to become weeded with Magnus. Then the Imperial family and El Presidente’s family will be closure, while securing that there will be heirs to Magnus. We also suggest your consideration to the Order of Sovereigns and of preparing your defend of a fellow Catholic power in line with Canada’s continued aggression against us. Non Catholic powers may join of course as long as they are of order. God bless you El Presidente! Just be sure not to upset the Pope by making the wrong alliances with powers the Pope does not approve of!

To the loyal Spammers. We thank you for the spice. As a Catholic thanks we will invite you to the Order of Sovereigns. You are a loyal friend to us. We cannot describe our thanks to you. Shame Lonan has vanished or we would have him respond in honour to your name.

To Lonan Nelson… your disappearance before the assassination of Gilmore suggest questionable play. We wish to find out where you have gone. Reveal yourself and let your expression be set to your student on the throne! You are but among many subjects. It is naturally you turn yourself in. We are prepared to sell your barony on an auction if you remain vanished or have proven to have forsaken the ways of the Imperium. Magnus preys however that you are in good health and hopes your family well. As regent though I am prepared to do what I must to ensure the security of the Empire of Man. Magnus will judge me on the result. Such is my content to his service.

That is all I have to say. God bless Emperor Magnus Flanagon as he leads us to a new era!
 
On Relations With the Imperium of Mann

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The Holy Father, seeing the contrition and due repentance of the Imperium of Mann for the crimes of its Emperor, Gilmore Flanagan, and seeing its revokation of his apostate actions and works, sees fit to release the Imperium from interdict, and revoke its embargo. The Holy See leaves it up to its clients states authorities to discern the state of their relations with Mann.

The Holy See also lifts the excommunication of the Prince Bishop of Peel, however as due penance for his apostasy the Apostolic Signatura consigns him to a monastery, to do perpetual penance for his treason against the Church he pledged to serve. Emminent Inquisitor, Fr Leonardo Orsini, a native of the papal states is to serve as his replacement as Bishop of Mann. He shall incidentally serve as our representative on this Order of Sovereigns to ensure our interests and the interests of God, are not lost on this particular group.

sincerely

Secretary for Relations With States.

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OOC: My temporal actions against the Imperium are ended, the Excommunication on the Emperor naturally cannot be revoked, since he died unrepentant.
 
On Relations With the Imperium of Mann

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The Holy Father, seeing the contrition and due repentance of the Imperium of Mann for the crimes of its Emperor, Gilmore Flanagan, and seeing its revokation of his apostate actions and works, sees fit to release the Imperium from interdict, and revoke its embargo. The Holy See leaves it up to its clients states authorities to discern the state of their relations with Mann.

The Holy See also lifts the excommunication of the Prince Bishop of Peel, however as due penance for his apostasy the Apostolic Signatura consigns him to a monastery, to do perpetual penance for his treason against the Church he pledged to serve. Emminent Inquisitor, Fr Leonardo Orsini, a native of the papal states is to serve as his replacement as Bishop of Mann.

sincerely

Secretary for Relations With States.

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OOC: My temporal actions against the Imperium are ended, the Excommunication on the Emperor naturally cannot be revoked, since he died unrepentant.

To the Pope Pius XXV

The regent has gone in madness over your declaration to remove him from office. In consideration of this I have taken the liberty of arresting Nicolas Gell for conspiracy, especilly in this abuse of power as regent to His Imperial Majesty. We will release him to the monestery of your choosing after questioning. A new regent will soon be set, perhapes in the form of the Lord Mayor of Liverpool.

As to the replacement we are happy if you make the choice, although it must be noted by many of the nobles that we would like a more... Cetlic bishop. It is for the service of the flock. I would suggest one of your Irish cardinels personally. However you have the final judgement on the matter and Fr Leonardo Orsini could be accepted so long as he adapts to Manx culture.

May we be leaded to piety.

Duke Ultan Lennon of Munster, admiral of the Irish Guardian Fleet of the Imperium.
 
Shanghai

Shanghai may not share the religious zealotry of the prior government, but we are no enemies of worship. The cultural importance of Catholicism (and many other beliefs) in Shanghai's history cannot be denied, and free worship being one of the pillars of liberty, the belief is to be fully respected.

Our revolution has primarily been against the economic policies of the Jung (many a former elite is finding his lands confiscated following due process), and we hope to more or less maintain the status quo in foreign affairs.

While there is a sizable faction requesting review of any state grants of land or other wealth to the Catholic Church, no formal measure has been proposed to do such. Any privately-donated resources are of course, fully respected and recognized as rightfully Papal.

President Adolf Manchu eagerly awaits the Pope's hand in continued friendship.

Tsingtao

Tsingtao gives its thanks to the great Japanese Empire for its support, and reaffirms that the titles of Emperor and Empress are to remain reserved for the Japanese sovereign, where applicable.

Cascadia

Premier Pilgrim has announced that it will soon sell some of its territory to Canada to avoid a possible conflict; the new money shall be used primarily to settle Alaska and the American interior. Mr. Pilgrim requests that Cascadian rights to Alaska be respected; much of the land traditionally Cascadian would cause war with Canada if settled.

Netherlands-Scotland

The United Kingdom of the Netherlands and Scotland, accepting the Pope's temporal wisdom as much as spiritual, had agreed to embargo the Imperium of Mann until it returned to the fold. However, with news arriving that the new Emperor seeks reconcilation, we have issued decrees to our customs officials and trade ships to continue business as usual.

However, despite this rift with our Manx neighbors, we nonetheless send our condolences for Emperor Gilmore's untimely demise. We pray God will show his soul mercy.

Xinjiang

The Kingdom of Xinjiang does not join in the China claiming frenzy, but nonetheless embargoes Romnesia until it retracts its remarks regarding women.

Romania

Scientists have examined a volunteer from the Blood Empire. It has been determined that, the mythos aside, the vampires of Brazil are very different from the ones the Cullens have governed on and off for centuries. As such, Edward and Bella, first among equals of the Cosmopolitan Coven, have decreed that Romanian moral authority does not extend to them.

Though the vampires share some outward traits, internally it has been determined they are both very different, sharing the title due to the conceptions of mortals. It has been chalked up to convergent evolution, and it is hoped good relations may be maintained between Romania and the Blood Empire.

Romania is also formally declaring itself a Constitutional monarchy; the Cullen family have exercised indirect rule for centuries, but it feels a slightly more visible approach is necessary. The royal marriage with Amazonia has been formally announced as well, though the marriage took place close to five hundred years ago.
 
ooc: I wonder if tani knows that the japanese language term for their own Emperor is different from that used for foreign Emperors. Tenno = Heavenly Sovereign (Emperor of Japan) vs kōtei for the non-heavenly chinese Emperor.

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To Shanghai

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The Holy See is glad that the importance of the Divine and Catholic Faith is respected in Shanghai, and that the perennial and divinely granted rights of the Church will continue to be respected. We look forward to continuing good relations in the years ahead.

On another matter though, the Holy See would be willing to host the deposed imperial house in exile, as compared to executing them. Catholic teaching, although it recognises teh right of the state to execute, also upholds the sanctity of life. It would be a token of mercy and pleasing in the sight of God for such a clemency to be granted to those who have been deposed despite any transgressions on their part. After all God himself will be the final judge when their hour comes.

sincerely

Pope Pius XXV
 
I did not. :p

However, assuming all diplomats are speaking English as a matter of convenience, it is still nonetheless respectful, I think, for any vassal of the Japanese Emperor to not claim the title of Emperor... at least in English. :p

Though claiming the title of Queen is somewhat conspicuous (as in the Holy Roman Empire), it is not unreasonable, as an Emperor is supposed to be superior to a King in honor and rank...

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An updated map. Major NPC claims visible.
 
Just as a Pope is superior to an Emperor in honour and rank :p, a

nd I suppose in terms of the lingua franca it could be construed as a token of Tsingtaos respect for the dominion of its japanese suzerain, and as an effort to avoid misunderstandings, while still asserting its independence by its leader standing firm on her position as Queen Regnant. (as compared to being shackled to Japan like Victoria was shackled to Katterland ;) )

EDIT: Bosnia seems to have moved a province westward, it has two provinces bordering Romania, not one. The precise claims they made are obviously on their entrance page if you care to go back and check.
 
Until Jeffrey St. John came along, anyway. :mischief:

Fortunately there are no radically anti-faith states in this game apart from Namibia as memory serves...

Just a bunch of psychopathic NPCs with large armies.

Next few turns will be fun, kids.
 
King George has proclaimed himself Emperor George I of China. Obviously only a human is worthy of the title of Emperor.

I :lol:ed when I saw this. It seems that King George will never leave China.

from Namibia
To Manx:


We lift our embargo.

From Namibia
To Emperor George I of China:


Great Emperor George, we want trade and an defensive allaince.
 
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