Myth01- Training Day- Regent

[Northen Wolf]

Great job Yahya!

Victory
Already said what I want - bloody struggle to be only nation in WORLD.

About conquest victory - nothing is sweeter than it is(exept space race), that's why I play domination off. Sweet to see one civilization to dominate over others.

RIOTS

About riots - I use thing called CivReplay (under that name I downloaded it) MapStat (one program that came with civreplay)- I have to press alt+tab in the end of every turn (or beginning of one) but it shows cities about to riot, things I can trade etc. Helps with riots BIG time, last turnset had 1 riot, in other SG had 0 riots


IROS
I'm not worried about iros city, it is small one and we can make "Age of Pirates" around iros small city. I would get this city thru peace deal tho. And I assume we need peace with them soon.

Iro galleys are moving towards Shaka-land = more iro towns. Burn few towns on same turn, then make peace. Ai offers cities for peace deal.

What are people thoughts of moving stack of 4 pirates and 1-2 frigates in same stack ? Frigate hides Pirates and Ai will not attack frigates (unless you are at war). +frigs have bombard ability. I once ended up with 17 pirates, but battleships started tearing them into pieces

Just noticed that this thread has 11k Pageviews. It is a long lasting game isn't it

Long lasting game - training game, we ask stupid questions+do mistakes.
Cbob + Lurkers&co do their best to answer them and make war plans, write long stories about one or two turns. But I like these

Questions
Now could anyone smarter than I am explain what makes AI afraid? I've personally noticed that AI is more afraid if in "one" turn he gets heavy losses (eg 5 cities or huge troop losses).

Does Ai ever give tech+city for peace?

Do we stay in republic until end of game or try something else (communism?)

 

[Aabraxan]

lurker's comment: Glad you're back, NW. Hope you had a nice recovery.

. . . . RIOTS

About riots - I use thing called CivReplay (under that name I downloaded it) MapStat (one program that came with civreplay)- I have to press alt+tab in the end of every turn (or beginning of one) but it shows cities about to riot, things I can trade etc. Helps with riots BIG time, last turnset had 1 riot, in other SG had 0 riots

Getting some "popheads" or "mood badges" from the download area will also help. I use them in my games so that happy citizens get a green badge, content citizens get a white one and unhappy citizens get a blue one.

Does Ai ever give tech+city for peace?

Yes, but there are certain techs to which it will cling as though its life depends on it. It values Monarchy and Nationalism very highly and generally won't give those up, almost no matter how badly you beat them up. I can't tell you how many times I've reduced a civ to an OCC, but they still won't give up those.

Do we stay in republic until end of game or try something else (communism?)

To be honest, I've still never tried communism. With that caveat, the "conventional wisdom" that I've always read around here is that communism works best when you plan for it from the beginning, and lay out the empire accordingly, with room for lots of metros. You have to research optional techs, go through a second anarchy, and if you've optimized your empire for Republic, then you haven't optimized it for communism.

 

[CommandoBob]

Northen Wolf, back so soon! That's good news.

I will be out of town until next Sunday night, so if you can take the next turnset that would be great.

MapStat will automatically refresh on the screen (no Alt + Tab needed) when I have it pointed to the directory where the game is saved. I have a separate folder for each game I am in and I have gotten into the habit of doing a manual save each turn. When I manually select a save game, MapStat will continue to point to that location. When I create a new save, it will do it's pop-up thingee and reload. It seems to take about 5 seconds for the reload.

@Aabraxan: which popheads do you use? I use Puppeteers; he doesn't have a content smiley, just happy/unhappy.

 

[Aabraxan]

@Aabraxan: which popheads do you use? I use Puppeteers; he doesn't have a content smiley, just happy/unhappy.

I use these.

 

[CommandoBob]

I use these.

I like those better; the white content face is really helpful.

I'll have to download those after I get home.

 

[Aabraxan]

Yeah, it really is. Where I used to get into trouble with happiness was actually smaller towns. If you're just browsing the F1 screen, all the faces are aligned to the left, so that an unhappy face in a town not yet hooked to luxes might be right under a content one in a hooked-up town.

 

[vmxa]

Lurker:

Those pop heads make it so much easier, even my old eyes can see them.

 

[darski]

I might have to switch to those popheads. I have the "halo' colours and they aren't quite as obvious as the smilies.

My first attempt at using a pop head did not work as I did not find all the places I had to change at first try. maybe this time I can get it right

 

[CommandoBob]

I might have to switch to those popheads. I have the "halo' colours and they aren't quite as obvious as the smilies.

My first attempt at using a pop head did not work as I did not find all the places I had to change at first try. maybe this time I can get it right

I only changed one file, since I don't play any of the Conquest scenarios. The thread I link to tells how to add them into the scenarios.

Just remember to rename the current file so that you can use it later. Don't delete it. If you discover you don't like the popheads and you've deleted the file, you've got to reinstall the game to get it back the way it was. Not pretty.

 

[vmxa]

Lurker:

Here is what note I have for it:

Inside this archive you'll find the following file to install:

popHeads15x15SmileySimpleConquests.pcx

Copy the file into your Civ 3 \Conquests\Art\Smallheads folder.
(By default: C:\Program Files\Infogrames Interactive\Civilization III\Conquests\Art\SmallHeads )
You will be replacing your popHeads.pcx with the pcx in the zip file so
be sure to back up your original popHeads.pcx so you can revert back to
the original if you want.
Then all you have to do is to change the name of the file
popHeads15x15SmileySimpleConquests.pcx to popHeads.pcx

 

[darski]

I only changed one file, since I don't play any of the Conquest scenarios. The thread I link to tells how to add them into the scenarios.

Just remember to rename the current file so that you can use it later. Don't delete it. If you discover you don't like the popheads and you've deleted the file, you've got to reinstall the game to get it back the way it was. Not pretty.

Since I change everything I can, I have backups of all those files. It's the first thing I did when I got C3C

 

[Northen Wolf]

I'll be back in about 1 day then I can get save and play first ~4 turns.

 

[CommandoBob]

I will be out of town until next Monday, so please skip me if my turns come up.

 

[Northen Wolf]

Skip me too, things got bit worser and I'll be away from computer with civ3 this, and following week. I'll be ok tho. I'll try to give my advice and opinions tho.

CBob, is Yahya up?

 

[Yahya]

If we skip both of you, then that will make me up, I think. I can do that, if you guys want, though I played the last set.

We are basically in an expansion phase now, and working toward navigation so we can begin expanding overseas.

 

[choxorn]

lurker's comment: Is ngraner still out there?

 

[CommandoBob]

I'm back; I still need to download the popheads like I said I would; I'll try to get a strategy post done this evening.

 

[CommandoBob]

Monotheism in 4
257 gold, -14 gpt
Republic
50% tax
30% science
20% luxury

City Builds: (# = something to investigate later)
# Beijing (9): courthouse in 2, grows in 4.
Delhi (7): Settler in 3, grows in 13.
# Zimbabwe (1): worker in 1, grows in 3,
Shanghai (6): market in 6, zero growth.
Watery (6): market in 1, zero growth.
# Soduku City (6): settler in 19, grows in 9999.
Canton (6): aqueduct in 4, zero growth.
Bapedi (3): settler in 17, grows in 9.
# Nanking (5): courthouse in 10, grows in 8.
Bangalore (4) settler in 24, grows in 1.
# Jutlandville (1): courthouse in 80, grows in 10.
Tsingtao (6): library in 11, zero growth.
# Isandhlwana (1): worker in 1, grows in 5.
# Tatung (3): settler in 20, grows in 1.
Irony (6): market in 6, zero growth.
# Hangchow (5): courthouse in 18, grows in 10.
# Intombe (1): courthouse in 79, zero growth.
Old Zulu City (1): worker in 5, grows in 5.
Xinjian (6): market in 32, zero growth.
Sugarville (1): worker in 2, grows in 2.
# Swazi (1): courthouse in 79, zero growth.
GrapeVille (5): settler in 3, grows in 7.
Tugela (2): trebuchet in 10, zero growth.
# Macao (3): courthouse in 37, grows in 7.
Anyang (6): library in 28, grows in 16.
Mountain View (3): settler in 9, grows in 2.
# Forestville (5): courthouse in 20, grows in 5.
Desert Marsh (5): library in 4, grows in 7.
Desert River (4): settler in 2, grows in 7.
Spacious Meadows (6): settler in 14, grows in 6.
Sea (3): settler in 17, grows in 4.
Great View (5): settler in 2, grows in 2.
Barbarian Outpost I (4): settler in 6, grows in 1.
ShoreLeave (6): settler in 4, grows in 3.
# Ibabanago (1): worker in 1, grows in 7.
# Riverside (7): courthouse in 16, zero growth.
Nana-Na-Nana (2): courthouse in 77, zero growth.
Ice Camp (2): settler in 17, grows in 3.
# Plainsville (1): courthouse in 73, grows in 3.
# West Coast Point (1): rPike in 25, grows in 1.
# Camp de Grass (1): rPike in 25, grows in 2.
# Jaipur II (1): walls in 8, grows in 5.
# Green Tea (1): courthouse in 80, grows in 7.
# Hidden Harbor (1): courthouse in 80, grows in 7.

44 Cities

City Production:
Courthouse [13] (Beijing, Nanking, Jutlandville, Hangchow, Intombe, Swazi, Macao, Forestville, Riverside, Nana-Na-Nana, Plainsville, Green Tea and Hidden Harbor)
Settler [14] (Delhi, Soduku City, Bapedi, Bangalore, Tatung, GrapeVille, Mountain View, Desert River, Spacious Meadows, Sea, Great View, Barbarian Outpost I, ShoreLeave and Ice Camp)
Worker [5] (Zimbabwe, Isandhlwana, Old Zulu City, Sugarville and Ibabanago)
Market [4] (Shanghai, Watery, Irony and Xinjian)
Aqueduct [1] (Canton)
Library [3] (Tsingtao, Anyang and Desert Marsh)
Trebuchet [1] (Tugela)
rPike [2] (West Coast Point and Camp de Grass)
Walls [1] (Jaipur II)

Military:
06 Settlers
33 Workers
10 Slaves
01 Warrior
07 Archers
08 Spears
14 Swords
18 Horse
03 Galleys
01 Army
15 Mace
03 Trebuchet

Allowed Units: 50
Current Units: 109
Cost per turn: 118 gpt


Resources connected to Beijing
01 Wines
02 Dyes
02 Silks
01 Saltpeter
02 Iron
04 Horse


Wonder Races

• Sun Tzu's Art of War
  • Salamanca (Iroquois)
  • Chicago (America)
  • Heliopolis (Egypt)
  • Athens (Greece)
• Sistine Chapel
  • Oil Springs (Iroquois)
• Leonardo's Workshop
  • Tonawanda (Iroquois)
• Knights Templar
  • Pharsalos (Iroquois)
  • Corinth (Greece)

International
Greece - peace
America - peace
Iroquois - peace
Egypt - peace

If we drop the luxuries to 0%, only Beijing and Shanghai become cranky and can easily be fixed by hiring a specailist.
Our cash flow goes from -14 gpt to +27.
Increase science to 40%, we still learn Mono in 4, but at +7 gpt. We'll make up the difference later on the last turn of research.

Long Term Goals
Conquer the world.

Mid Range Goals
Build more cities in up north.
Learn Astronomy (Monotheism -> Theology -> Education -> Astronomy)
Learn Navigation after Navigation to get overseas faster (and trade overseas, too).
Otherwise, we need to learn Chemistry, Physics and then learn Magnetism in order to spend the IBT on ocean tiles.
Tech trading and buying may change this plan, however.

Short Range Goals
Trade Invention for Theology?
Build more cities.
Reduce military.
Examine city builds.
Explore with our lone Galley, now just outside Boston.
Build our Forbidden Palace!
Build an embassy in America (50 gold).

I still need to go through the cities and change some build orders and fix the two cranky cities I just created. I plan to do that tomorrow. And maybe get some turns played, also.

 

[choxorn]

Learn Navigation after Navigation

Eh?

 

[Northen Wolf]

Add mid range goal - get more cities above size 6 -eg work on aquad. . This'll improve our cost on military, and we are not going that much anymore, as focus is on expanding (and maybe keeping iros away).