Nero02-no science - Emperor
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440 AD (0)
Theology to India for worker and 2 gold
IT: A few cavalry complete; Mauch Chunk now building Settler
AI are building wonders, including Copernicus's Observatory
450 AD (1)
Inca, Maya, Ottomans and Netherlands have Astronomy
Maya and Netherlands have Banking
66 gpt and 210 gold to Netherlands for Banking
Banking to Ottomands for Astronomy and 6 gold with peace treaty
Switch core builds to banks (except Mauch Chunk)
Switch Gayagaahe to aqueduct, wasting a few shields
IT: Troops kicked out of Ottoman territory
Ottomans and Maya ally vs Japan (Ottomans declare war on Japan)
Gayagaahe Aqueduct >> Courthouse
460 AD (2)
Banking to Japan for Music Theory
IT: Maya complete J.S. Bach's Cathedral
470 AD (3)
IT: Inca complete Copernicus's Observatory
480 AD (4)
IT: Workers kicked out of Russian territory (near Orenburg)
Mauch Chunk Settler >> Bank
Oka Barracks >> Aqueduct
Maya building Magellan's Voyage
490 AD (5)
Maya, Ottomans and Netherlands have Navigation
Note: 4-turn tech pace
500 AD (6)
Not much...
Settler to build new city two tiles north of Orenburg (workers clearing marsh)
Leader has not been used. Not sure of FP placement, but perhaps new city north of Orenburg would be better?
Theology to India for worker and 2 gold
IT: A few cavalry complete; Mauch Chunk now building Settler
AI are building wonders, including Copernicus's Observatory
450 AD (1)
Inca, Maya, Ottomans and Netherlands have Astronomy
Maya and Netherlands have Banking
66 gpt and 210 gold to Netherlands for Banking
Banking to Ottomands for Astronomy and 6 gold with peace treaty
Switch core builds to banks (except Mauch Chunk)
Switch Gayagaahe to aqueduct, wasting a few shields
IT: Troops kicked out of Ottoman territory
Ottomans and Maya ally vs Japan (Ottomans declare war on Japan)
Gayagaahe Aqueduct >> Courthouse
460 AD (2)
Banking to Japan for Music Theory
IT: Maya complete J.S. Bach's Cathedral
470 AD (3)
IT: Inca complete Copernicus's Observatory
480 AD (4)
IT: Workers kicked out of Russian territory (near Orenburg)
Mauch Chunk Settler >> Bank
Oka Barracks >> Aqueduct
Maya building Magellan's Voyage
490 AD (5)
Maya, Ottomans and Netherlands have Navigation
Note: 4-turn tech pace
500 AD (6)
Not much...
Settler to build new city two tiles north of Orenburg (workers clearing marsh)
Leader has not been used. Not sure of FP placement, but perhaps new city north of Orenburg would be better?
Pre-Turn:
Russia: We get 13 gpt; we give Banking
Ottomans: We get Navigation; we give World Map, 35 gpt, and 244 gold
510 AD (1):
Russia: We get World Map, 11 gpt, and 12 gold; we give Navigation
IT: Democracy is known
520 AD (2): Allegheny begins work on the FP.
530 AD (3):
IT: India and Russia sign a MA against Japan
540 AD (4):
India: We get World Map and 2 gpt; we give Education
550 AD (5):
IT: Economics is known
570 AD (7): Stopping here
-Currently Russia does not know Democracy but does know Economics. Id suggest buying Democracy and swapping it for Economics.
-Probably should not have bought Navigation as it isnt really needed.
-Once we have Economics Id suggest building Smiths, it would help us tremendously. Possibly switch Allegheny to Smiths?
Sorry for taking so long. I forgot about this one.
Heres the save.
Russia: We get 13 gpt; we give Banking
Ottomans: We get Navigation; we give World Map, 35 gpt, and 244 gold
510 AD (1):
Russia: We get World Map, 11 gpt, and 12 gold; we give Navigation
IT: Democracy is known
520 AD (2): Allegheny begins work on the FP.
530 AD (3):
IT: India and Russia sign a MA against Japan
540 AD (4):
India: We get World Map and 2 gpt; we give Education
550 AD (5):
IT: Economics is known
570 AD (7): Stopping here
-Currently Russia does not know Democracy but does know Economics. Id suggest buying Democracy and swapping it for Economics.
-Probably should not have bought Navigation as it isnt really needed.
-Once we have Economics Id suggest building Smiths, it would help us tremendously. Possibly switch Allegheny to Smiths?
Sorry for taking so long. I forgot about this one.
Heres the save.
Took some extra turns as nothing was going on.
Pre-turn
rush settler in Iznik
Buy economics from Russian for WM 40gpt 100gold, don;t think we need democracy which is very expensive.
580AD
change Allegheny to smith's
600AD
settle Goigouen
610AD
buy physics form Inca for WM 50gpt and 280 gold
630AD
get magnetism from ottomans for WM 58gpt 620 gold
sell it to Russia for WM and 559 gold, we can't get gpt.
640AD
renew our deal with japan, we give iron we get furs 21 gold and wm
650AD
Iznik is now free of flip change rush FP.
670AD
Japan loses furs, so do we, now get them from Ottomans for WM 17pgt 19 gold
trade our iron to Inca for WM 20 gpt and 57 gold
Get ToG from Russia for 49 gpt 460 gold and wm.
We enter the IA.
700AD
rush 2 settler to try and grab luxes.
730AD
settle Kawauka and Kante, grab 1 lux
740 rush temples in new cities.
Lower lux MM all cities rush some courts.
Medicine and Nationalism are known, haven't traded for them yet.
We should rush some more culture up north to try and flip the Russian cities.
Pre-turn
rush settler in Iznik
Buy economics from Russian for WM 40gpt 100gold, don;t think we need democracy which is very expensive.
580AD
change Allegheny to smith's
600AD
settle Goigouen
610AD
buy physics form Inca for WM 50gpt and 280 gold
630AD
get magnetism from ottomans for WM 58gpt 620 gold
sell it to Russia for WM and 559 gold, we can't get gpt.
640AD
renew our deal with japan, we give iron we get furs 21 gold and wm
650AD
Iznik is now free of flip change rush FP.
670AD
Japan loses furs, so do we, now get them from Ottomans for WM 17pgt 19 gold
trade our iron to Inca for WM 20 gpt and 57 gold
Get ToG from Russia for 49 gpt 460 gold and wm.
We enter the IA.
700AD
rush 2 settler to try and grab luxes.
730AD
settle Kawauka and Kante, grab 1 lux
740 rush temples in new cities.
Lower lux MM all cities rush some courts.
Medicine and Nationalism are known, haven't traded for them yet.
We should rush some more culture up north to try and flip the Russian cities.
750 AD
Ottomans complete Shakespeare's Theater
760 AD
Aydin flops to Ottomans
770 AD
Maya complete Smith's Trading Company
Dutch complete Newton's University
780 AD
Allegheny from Smith's to Palace (seems like a good idea)
Maya declare on Inca
790 AD
Inca have entered the Industrial Ages
800 AD
Inca have acquired Medicine
810 AD
Inca have acquired Nationalism
820 AD
Rush a marketplace in Gandasetaigon for 320 gold
830 AD
Maya and Netherlands have Steam Power
Buy SP from Netherlands for 3105 gold
SP to Inca for Democracy, 17 gpt, 38 gold and WM
SP to Ottomans for FA, 337 gold and WM
840 AD
Dutch complete Magellan's Voyage
850 AD
Tyendenega from Magellan's to Cathedral (198 shields wasted)
I left out the builds, as I don't figure those details matter much. To sum it up, we have completed 3 temples, 3 courthouses, 2 marketplaces, 5 cathedrals and 1 bank.
Rushing culture 'up north' will not help to flip Russian cities, at least not in the way nerovats implied. Culture flip depends only on entire civ cultures and local culture of the city in question, not culture of nearby cities. That said, I agree that more culture is desirable, and would not be opposed to building libraries just for their culture.
We need more workers to build rails and to turn excess irrigation into mines. We all know how the AI progresses through the IA - hospitals are a long way off.
Ottomans complete Shakespeare's Theater
760 AD
Aydin flops to Ottomans
770 AD
Maya complete Smith's Trading Company
Dutch complete Newton's University
780 AD
Allegheny from Smith's to Palace (seems like a good idea)
Maya declare on Inca
790 AD
Inca have entered the Industrial Ages
800 AD
Inca have acquired Medicine
810 AD
Inca have acquired Nationalism
820 AD
Rush a marketplace in Gandasetaigon for 320 gold
830 AD
Maya and Netherlands have Steam Power
Buy SP from Netherlands for 3105 gold
We have two sources of coal
Ottomans have one, unroaded
India, most backward civ, has three - go figure
The other civs have no coal
SP to Russia for Medicine, 19 gpt, 7 gold and World MapOttomans have one, unroaded
India, most backward civ, has three - go figure
The other civs have no coal
SP to Inca for Democracy, 17 gpt, 38 gold and WM
SP to Ottomans for FA, 337 gold and WM
840 AD
Dutch complete Magellan's Voyage
850 AD
Tyendenega from Magellan's to Cathedral (198 shields wasted)
I left out the builds, as I don't figure those details matter much. To sum it up, we have completed 3 temples, 3 courthouses, 2 marketplaces, 5 cathedrals and 1 bank.
Rushing culture 'up north' will not help to flip Russian cities, at least not in the way nerovats implied. Culture flip depends only on entire civ cultures and local culture of the city in question, not culture of nearby cities. That said, I agree that more culture is desirable, and would not be opposed to building libraries just for their culture.
We need more workers to build rails and to turn excess irrigation into mines. We all know how the AI progresses through the IA - hospitals are a long way off.
I was thinking of buildings libs myself. I think flip chance was influenced by total culture but also the number of tiles which are ounder teh cultural inflence of another city. When rushing culture north, they will get a bigger influence faster and thus flip cities fater. Depends on how many of the 21 tiles are under influence of the other civ´s cities.
AD (0): All cities that were on wealth are switched to libraries. As was already stated, we need more culture.
IT: Netherlands and Maya have signed a MPP and MA versus the Inca.
870 AD (2):
IT: Ottomans: We get Furs; we give WM, Coal, and 214 gold
Inca: We get 26 gpt; we give Iron
880 AD (3): Netherlands: We get two workers; we give WM and 225 gold.
Inca: We get Nationalism; we give WM, 1 gpt, and 4,580 gold.
890 AD (4): Netherlands: We get Communism; we give WM, 180 gpt, and 840 gold.
Inca: We get WM and 2950 gold; we give Communism
Ottomans: We get WM, 6 gpt, and 344 gold; we give Communism
Russia: We get WM, 1 gpt, and 24 gold; we give Communism
IT: Russia and Japan sign peace
900 AD (5): Netherlands: We get Industrialization; we give 3071 gold
Inca: We get WM, 37 gpt, and 1132 gold; we give Industrialization
Inca: We get a worker; we give 112 gold
910 AD (6): Japan: We get WM, 17 gpt, and 142 gold; we give Physics
India: We get 2 gpt and 2 gold; we give Physics
Ottomans: We get 4 gpt and 40 gold; we give Industrialization
920 AD (7): Inca: We get two workers; we give WM and 217 gold
-Should we switch to Communism?
Here's the save.
IT: Netherlands and Maya have signed a MPP and MA versus the Inca.
870 AD (2):
IT: Ottomans: We get Furs; we give WM, Coal, and 214 gold
Inca: We get 26 gpt; we give Iron
880 AD (3): Netherlands: We get two workers; we give WM and 225 gold.
Inca: We get Nationalism; we give WM, 1 gpt, and 4,580 gold.
890 AD (4): Netherlands: We get Communism; we give WM, 180 gpt, and 840 gold.
Inca: We get WM and 2950 gold; we give Communism
Ottomans: We get WM, 6 gpt, and 344 gold; we give Communism
Russia: We get WM, 1 gpt, and 24 gold; we give Communism
IT: Russia and Japan sign peace
900 AD (5): Netherlands: We get Industrialization; we give 3071 gold
Inca: We get WM, 37 gpt, and 1132 gold; we give Industrialization
Inca: We get a worker; we give 112 gold
910 AD (6): Japan: We get WM, 17 gpt, and 142 gold; we give Physics
India: We get 2 gpt and 2 gold; we give Physics
Ottomans: We get 4 gpt and 40 gold; we give Industrialization
920 AD (7): Inca: We get two workers; we give WM and 217 gold
-Should we switch to Communism?
Here's the save.
With Communism we would have much better production. On the bad side we would lose around 200 gpt according to CA2. You might want to look at the numbers beforehand, as I'm going off of memory.
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