NES World/Regional Maps Requests Thread

[Niklas]

Anyway, out of more significant European rivers, Tagus, Po, Rhone and Loire come to mind immediately.

Elbe and Vistula come to mind before either of those. Daugava too perhaps. But yes, I agree that those four should go in as well. And maybe Seine and Thames, while not as large, for their historical significance. But, like Symphony has pointed out, it's an issue of finding the proper data for them.

 

[North King]

Anyway, out of more significant European rivers, Tagus, Po, Rhone and Loire come to mind immediately.

I'm not entirely certain they offer enough benefits to be worth the clutter.

While I'm at it -- Symphony, is there a mathematical formula to convert latitude and longitude to pixel number? This is a Winkel Tripel projection, right?... I think there's a formula on Wikipedia, though I've not checked as to whether that is accurate, or tried applying it at all...

 

[Symphony D.]

@Symph: Are you planning to go through the other map threads and put those maps on the opening post of the new thread?

No, because as I said I'm not the one who's here to judge what does and doesn't go. I wouldn't mind imposing my tastes on the rest of you, but I still recognize that to be a bit immoral and I'm willing to abide with an unofficial separation of powers. The threads are there; if you people find something priceless you're free to suggest it.

I realised the irony a bit later, but it was too late.

Well, I enjoy seeing other people doing the complaining sometimes.

While I'm at it -- Symphony, is there a mathematical formula to convert latitude and longitude to pixel number? This is a Winkel Tripel projection, right?... I think there's a formula on Wikipedia, though I've not checked as to whether that is accurate, or tried applying it at all...

There is, but there's no real point in using it. There's a functional that lets you straight upload X/Y data in the form of latitude and longitude and converts and plots it for you.

Technically, if you were able to get a somewhat continuous feed of coordinates for the length of a river (say, every 5 to 10 kilometers should work) and record them as X.123,Y.123 (or vice-versa, the order doesn't matter) then it would be child's play to plot them--just like the cities.

So, if somebody has the patience to do that for the rivers that are important, it's no big deal to do it without having to hunt down actual GIS data.

 

[Birdjaguar]

So, if somebody has the patience to do that for the rivers that are important, it's no big deal to do it without having to hunt down actual GIS data.

Could you use google earth for that data by just moving the cursor along the river and noting the changes in lat and long?

 

[Symphony D.]

Something like that was pretty much the way I envisioned it being done, yes.

Also, since I'm gabbing, I still consider the city projection very much alive, I just have more important things to be doing at the moment. It would be helpful if some poor bored soul were to check the remaining SFVBs and sign off on them, though.

 

[~Darkening~]

As a note, I'll begin Indonesia sometime after I finish AFNES orders.

 

[Symphony D.]

Just try not to delete numbers or signs like you did on half your other entries, so cities in Nepal wind up in the Sahara, or cities in Brazil wind up in the Indian Ocean...

 

[~Darkening~]

Hmm? I accidently deleted a few numbers here and there, but everytime I did I made sure to go back and fix it. I'm not sure how that would happen.

 

[Symphony D.]

Retroactive deletion.

 

[~Darkening~]

Weird. I'll keep an eye out.

 

[North King]

There is, but there's no real point in using it. There's a functional that lets you straight upload X/Y data in the form of latitude and longitude and converts and plots it for you.

Ah. What program are you using to do that?

Technically, if you were able to get a somewhat continuous feed of coordinates for the length of a river (say, every 5 to 10 kilometers should work) and record them as X.123,Y.123 (or vice-versa, the order doesn't matter) then it would be child's play to plot them--just like the cities.

So, if somebody has the patience to do that for the rivers that are important, it's no big deal to do it without having to hunt down actual GIS data.

I'll try that with the Elbe today, and see how it works.

 

[Symphony D.]

Ah. What program are you using to do that?

ArcGIS. Specifically, ArcMap. It has a "Add X/Y Data" function that lets you plot points directly from a text file. That's how the cities program is being managed.

After thinking about it, 10km is OK for the cities, since they're 3px, but given the rivers will ideally be 1px for each data point, 3 to 5km would probably be better. We don't need total consistency as it should be possible to guess fairly reasonably any gaps in the plot points (there'll only generally be three possibilities at most given gaps) so don't sweat the details.

 

[Symphony D.]

Retroactive deletion.

 

[Birdjaguar]

NK, where did you get your data?

 

[North King]

Google Earth (free download). You just use the ruler tool and do five mile line segments; record the latitude and longitude of the endpoints.

 

[jalapeno_dude]

NK, any chance that you can post links to your various historical maps so Symph can post them in the new map thread?

 

[North King]

NK, any chance that you can post links to your various historical maps so Symph can post them in the new map thread?

I'll be redoing the historical maps on Symph's map, probably starting around when the cities get done.

 

[Birdjaguar]

I'll be redoing the historical maps on Symph's map, probably starting around when the cities get done.

And after some other map work?

 

[North King]

And after some other map work?

Why yes. There are several rivers to get done, as well as helping with that city placement...

Oh, you mean your map! Never would have guessed.

 

[Cannae]

I haven't been able to find a blank world map of the early Silurian period that's not of a shoddy quality and doesn't have so many different color pixels, that make recoloring a map very time consuming.