NES2 V - The Great Game.

[Disenfrancised]

As long as this "Kemmu" is no relative of the Hitsuji Tyrant, then it is a good treaty.

He is a second cousin, why are you besmirking the Hitsuji dynasty's good name?

 

[Thlayli]

The short-lived "dynasty" was known for it's ridiculous proclamations and suicidal tactics. We are glad that a more reasonable form of government is now in place.

 

[Lord_Iggy]

As long as this "Kemmu" is no relative of the Hitsuji Tyrant, then it is a good treaty.

Of course, the will of Persia is supreme.

 

[alex994]

The short-lived "dynasty" was known for it's ridiculous proclamations and suicidal tactics. We are glad that a more reasonable form of government is now in place.

And they made fun of Dalnorossians, Chinese, Siamese, Koreans, and everyone who wasn't Japanese! He mocked Chinese people because they were shorter then Federates!

 

[Insane_Panda]

Its because they are!

 

[Lord_Iggy]

Its because they are!

 

[Stormbringer]

So, as far as China goes - Inner and Outer Mongolia to Dalnorossia as an autonomous state, Western territories either independant or to dalnorossia as autonomous, tibet independant, as a protectorate of FK, Japan independant. What about Korea? And the island in the sea? I think we are almost done with a peace treaty.

Dis, I would like to know what you have to say.

 

[Insane_Panda]

Stupid Chinese hackers! I had a whole story typed up and then IE froze!

 

[Reno]

"You lie!" the boy screamed, his face red in angry. Everything he had known was slowly coming apart. "You lie! I'm not Scandinavian, I'm Finnish!"

"Are you?" the soldier returned. "You speak our tounge, and our soldiers attempted to protect you from the Muscovy armies until your 'Finnish' brothers struck out against their protectors, when they already enjoy more freedoms than any where else. It is our Scandinavian armies that save Finnish Scandinavians from the fate of Muscovy work camps. It is your Scandinavian brothers that die in the snow to protect your homes from Muscovy guns. And your brothers betrayal of that, forced us to turn our guns to his independance movement, to protect you from the Muscovites..."

OOC:

Even in this ATL, Finns still have their own language which is no relative (Not even Indo-European) to Swedish. Save for a few loan words.

 

[Insane_Panda]

These words being Finnish, used "[insert he is in swedish] Finnish!"

and Finn, used "[insert damn those in swedish] Finns!"

and Finntastic.

 

[Kozmos]

Stupid Chinese hackers! I had a whole story typed up and then IE froze!

There's your problem.

 

[das]

Edit: Das, was my doubly lowered confidence another one of those stat reductions?

Didn't I mention it? Yes, it is there as well.

In the ATL it was never under japanese control, but settled by Japanese and Dalnorossians/Buryut.

The far south of Hokkaido was Japanese for a while, actually, though the rest wasn't.

DAS, I need an answer from the White Lotus...or whoever the hell is controlling them.

Whoever? Perhaps, but maybe whatever? As you know, before alex says anything definite the White Lotus are governed by a collective consciousness which just happens to be unconscious right now...

The short-lived "dynasty" was known for it's ridiculous proclamations and suicidal tactics.

You do realize that you're talking about one of, if not the most ancient human dynasty in the world (the Gwynns (as represented by the ruling Lord Penn Gwynn XIV) are a longer dynasty, but they aren't human ofcourse)?

 

[Azale]

das, would WL be willing to lay down arms in a new Chinese Republic or would they only do this under a new Han Emperor.

I need to know for my orders.

 

[das]

As I said, the situation is yet unclear. But anyway, no they won't join no bloody Republic, they killed liberals before while in the middle of a war with the Qing and will keep killing them now.

 

[Azale]

heh, unclear?!!?! UNCLEAR!?!?! Would they at least be willing to try in a Han Emperor...er...dom.

Cause they essentially want another Han Emperor and since the Manchu one failed...and the Han's are majority anyway....they will get what they want.

 

[Azale]

ok, China agrees to the treaty set by Siam & Dalnorossia.

White Lotus will be appeased in another way, as will be in my orders. So dont worry about them.

 

[Disenfrancised]

What...really? Let me forward that treaty to Stormbringer for his approval, he seems to have missed earlier updates about it.

 

[Thlayli]

Azale, I'm not sure if agreeing to split China into two countries (as dictated in the Siam/Dalnorossia treaty) is the best idea.

For the record, you did already kill the Qing Emperor, so you can't exactly have a Manchu state and a Han/Lotus state. They'll both probably fall apart in a bloody proxy war.

EDIT: Imo, you should simply go with the Republic, or pick a Han Emperor.

 

[Azale]

I am picking a Han Emperor, im ditching the republic idea. But keeping the flag

 

[Thlayli]

Oh. Then in that case, good. As long as China stays one nation.