NES2 V - The Great Game.
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Thlayli said:
And yet you support the Qing who have brutally crushed uprising after uprising of the oppressed...
...that debate on hypocrisy could be fun after all
.@erez: High five's all round!
Thlayli
Le Pétit Prince
erez87 said:
Ah, but your maste...er, ally the FK participated in that war, therefore legitimizing it, correct?
I don't want to keep up this endless debate. It's just going in circles by now.
Can we actually attempt to make a peace treaty?
erez87
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Are you ready to give up on the middle east? Is China ready to give up on all lands that wish to be free?Thlayli said:
and we can't attempt.. unlike the persians were not talkign for all our allies and so the FK must be here as they are still the leader of our alliance and we need to know what they WANT for peace.
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Thlayli said:
OOC: Well you don't exactly have the best record for sticking to them do you now?
Thlayli
Le Pétit Prince
Can you even provide a standard of what "free" is? We're open to restructuring the Chinese government, if the Chinese agree to it. However, since each concession we make is followed up by 5 more ridiculous demands, it seems almost hopeless.
At any rate, the remnants of the Ottoman Empire ceded that land to us, and accepted the peace treaty we proposed. Also, the people there want to be Persian subjects, a fact you seem to have trouble understanding.
At any rate, the remnants of the Ottoman Empire ceded that land to us, and accepted the peace treaty we proposed. Also, the people there want to be Persian subjects, a fact you seem to have trouble understanding.
Kozmos
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das said:
Well sod off then...
Thlayli
Le Pétit Prince
Cleric said:
Sell it? (ten)
Disenfrancised
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Thlayli said:
That might indeed be true, and it is not your actions there that anger us. Additionally you claim the Ottomans giving them to you proclaims legitamency - why deny the same to the FK in eygpt?
What our Persian friends seem to be having trouble with, is that they are making demands on other nations who are but doing exactly the same as the Persia actions less than a year ago towards the Ottomans. They are asking the other nations to hold to higher moral standard than themselves - how very interesting.
Thlayli
Le Pétit Prince
erez87 said:
Yes, I can prove it. The Shiites and Wahhabites rose up to support me. The Georgians and Armenians were granted autonomy in return for their support. And with the exception of some Sunni Muslims, the population of Iraq rose up to fight the Federates.
Also, my Confidence and Culture stats are fairly high.
In addition, the world would probably destroy me if I broke a peace treaty of this magnitude. The only reason behind "breaking" the original treaty, was due to the fact that I had advance knowledge of a coup in the Ottoman leadership.
Thlayli
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Disenfrancised said:
The Egyptians had established an independent nation, that did not wish to accept the protectorate. In addition, Persia had problems with a non-Muslim nation ruling over Muslims.
As did we with a Muslim nation ruling over non-Muslims, but you know that.
Dalnorossia ruled over the Uzbeks, but granted them autonomy. Persia rules over the Armenians and Georgians, but does the same.
erez87
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They rose up. It was never said they rose up to help you exept in your way of thinking... And the Armenians didn't helped you cause they wanted your rule as you say, it was only to gain autonomy...
and also the Japanies easablished an independent country, and the Prussians, yet you refused too acnowledge them...
and also the Japanies easablished an independent country, and the Prussians, yet you refused too acnowledge them...
Disenfrancised
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Thlayli said:
So the Koreans, Japanese, Mongols, Chinese Sunni Muslims, White Lotus rebellion, Tibetians, and the Annamese rising up in support of the RGC in china alone is somehow different
?@erez: I have that base covered
@contempt: we're not hypocrits, we freely admit that our campaigns are no better than theirs. 'sides, this is fun
I will stop now though.
Thlayli
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That's true enough. But Persia wasn't very interested in those nations at the time, being rather busy with an entirely separate war.
Kozmos
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Contempt said:
Ditto 50% of this thread is the discussion whether Persia or whatever you are discussing about is imperialistic or not.WHO CARES?Just play the damn game.
erez87
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You weren't interested in them? realy?
*french ambasador laughs
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You weren't interested in them? So the FK not being interested in the Egyptian kingdom is not ok but yours with well what Disenfrancised said is?
OOC cleric yeah.. but this is part of the game.. join it it's fun
and contempt luckily i'm not imperialistic.. yay!
*french ambasador laughs
*You weren't interested in them? So the FK not being interested in the Egyptian kingdom is not ok but yours with well what Disenfrancised said is?
OOC cleric yeah.. but this is part of the game.. join it it's fun
and contempt luckily i'm not imperialistic.. yay!
Thlayli
Le Pétit Prince
I was just trying to propose a peace treaty to the FK, and I got attacked by Erez. I'd be happy to let it go.
All those groups, I doubt, are rising in support of the RGC. Interpret it however you like, though.
From: Persia
To: Dalnorossia
We...were discussing a peace treaty?
All those groups, I doubt, are rising in support of the RGC. Interpret it however you like, though.
From: Persia
To: Dalnorossia
We...were discussing a peace treaty?
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