NES2 VI - Last Semblance of Order.
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Not very formidable.
Harleqin
Hippo Power
das, how is steampower/railroads at this time? Is it possible to construct basic railroads? I have some things in mind for a story...
Thlayli
Le Pétit Prince
MjM, don't rebel in China please. 
You can rebel in Burma if you like, though.
You can rebel in Burma if you like, though.
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Harleqin said:
See the Ottoman Empire's project.
das
Regeneration In Process
Arrgh. You are far from the first person to ask me this, so I'll reffer you to the rules, tech. level portion.
Harleqin
Hippo Power
Yeah yeah Shoot the bloody messenger I seemed to recall something about it, but it was faster to ask. As a compensation I'll try and get you two stories before deadline tomorrow
Shoot the bloody messenger I seemed to recall something about it, but it was faster to ask. As a compensation I'll try and get you two stories before deadline tomorrow
Harleqin
Hippo Power
-Who had the brilliant idea of lowering the taxes and then doing it without consulting me?!? Lentz was furious. Do you have any idea how much it cost us?
-Prime minister... it is an election year and with the war with Sweden over and new subject who pay taxes we thought it a good idea to ensure our reelection. We did not anticipate the economy to take such a hit from. The minister of the treasury was quiet. We can raise them again if you should so desire.
-No, it is too late now. We take too big a hit in the elections, but something needs to be done. We need the income. Give me suggestions. How can we increase our income to the same levels as before? The PM sighed deeply.
-Well, we have several ideas. We have been working on them for some time, but it will take a lot of time to implement them and it will be costly.
-Unfortunately I fail to see an alternative. It is not good though. We need to be on our guard and I do not see where we can divert finances from.
-Well, first of all we must reduce military spendings. The current level will not be sustainable for long, the minister ventured.
-I know, but I do not trust Sweden. I have no desire for any new conflicts with them, but how to make them see it. Well, that's a matter for the foreign ministry. Let me hear your ideas, Lord Treasurer. The PM seemed older than his 55 years as he slumbed down in a chair.
-Yes, Prime Minister. We have a few different ideas for you. First of all there is Reykjavik. We did some massive investment there some years ago. It has not paid off yet, but if we increase our whaling and fishing fleet it should develop into a massive trade center. It is very well situated for dominating the trade as England is too far away and with the recent events in Scotland and Ireland there will be little competition from there. We suggest subsidizing some merchants to encourage them to build more vessels. We will be able to supply not only ourselves, but most of Europe and with the facilities already in place we can center that trade on Iceland.
-Lentz nodded thoughtfully. Yes, that might work, but it will still cost.
-True my lord, but we have already made most of the investments. We estimate that we can do it for around one million. Assuming we can convince the merchants though.
-Very well. What are your other ideas? Lentz took a sip of his coffee which a servant had just brought.
-Well, as you know we have vast tracts of land in Jutland that is not used. We recommend building up industries there. There are mostly farmers in the area and they are complaining about falling prices, mainly for sheep. We can still export some, but the wool from them goes unused. If we build up a bunch of textile mills there we can sell the cloth and still use the meat locally. It should give more profits and also increase the population in the area.
-But how will we get it shipped? Copenhagen is far away from there.
-We recommend establishing a new town. It will be on the west coast and thus close to England, the low countries and France. It will be faster than shipping from Copenhagen.
-Lentz sat silent, deep in thoughts. But how will we get it to the port? he asked.
-My lord, we could build one of those new railroads. Then we would quickly and easily get it there.
-By God, it could work. I think you are on to something. Lentz looked pleased for once. What else do you propose?
-Colonies my lord. If we could aquire some land in the Caribbean and some in Africa, then we could produce our own sugar and even rum. There are many uninhabited islands in the area. While nominally French they do not use them. And in Africa we already have an agreement with the Portuguese following the Zulu affair.
-Hmm. The idea has merit. It will depend on the French though. I'll need to take contact to them. Anything else?
-Yes, the Far East. If we were to form a trading company and gain some land in India or China we could get massive trade from the area. Even just leasing a port should work.
-It will take time. Lentz sat quiet in though. Very well then. You focus on Iceland and this new city/industry idea of yours. I'll contact the French and the Portuguese.
-Yes, my Lord.
Lentz got up and went back to his office. One meeting handled, but he still needed to meet with the admiralty and the Foreign department. He did feel more optimistic than he had in weeks though.
-Prime minister... it is an election year and with the war with Sweden over and new subject who pay taxes we thought it a good idea to ensure our reelection. We did not anticipate the economy to take such a hit from. The minister of the treasury was quiet. We can raise them again if you should so desire.
-No, it is too late now. We take too big a hit in the elections, but something needs to be done. We need the income. Give me suggestions. How can we increase our income to the same levels as before? The PM sighed deeply.
-Well, we have several ideas. We have been working on them for some time, but it will take a lot of time to implement them and it will be costly.
-Unfortunately I fail to see an alternative. It is not good though. We need to be on our guard and I do not see where we can divert finances from.
-Well, first of all we must reduce military spendings. The current level will not be sustainable for long, the minister ventured.
-I know, but I do not trust Sweden. I have no desire for any new conflicts with them, but how to make them see it. Well, that's a matter for the foreign ministry. Let me hear your ideas, Lord Treasurer. The PM seemed older than his 55 years as he slumbed down in a chair.
-Yes, Prime Minister. We have a few different ideas for you. First of all there is Reykjavik. We did some massive investment there some years ago. It has not paid off yet, but if we increase our whaling and fishing fleet it should develop into a massive trade center. It is very well situated for dominating the trade as England is too far away and with the recent events in Scotland and Ireland there will be little competition from there. We suggest subsidizing some merchants to encourage them to build more vessels. We will be able to supply not only ourselves, but most of Europe and with the facilities already in place we can center that trade on Iceland.
-Lentz nodded thoughtfully. Yes, that might work, but it will still cost.
-True my lord, but we have already made most of the investments. We estimate that we can do it for around one million. Assuming we can convince the merchants though.
-Very well. What are your other ideas? Lentz took a sip of his coffee which a servant had just brought.
-Well, as you know we have vast tracts of land in Jutland that is not used. We recommend building up industries there. There are mostly farmers in the area and they are complaining about falling prices, mainly for sheep. We can still export some, but the wool from them goes unused. If we build up a bunch of textile mills there we can sell the cloth and still use the meat locally. It should give more profits and also increase the population in the area.
-But how will we get it shipped? Copenhagen is far away from there.
-We recommend establishing a new town. It will be on the west coast and thus close to England, the low countries and France. It will be faster than shipping from Copenhagen.
-Lentz sat silent, deep in thoughts. But how will we get it to the port? he asked.
-My lord, we could build one of those new railroads. Then we would quickly and easily get it there.
-By God, it could work. I think you are on to something. Lentz looked pleased for once. What else do you propose?
-Colonies my lord. If we could aquire some land in the Caribbean and some in Africa, then we could produce our own sugar and even rum. There are many uninhabited islands in the area. While nominally French they do not use them. And in Africa we already have an agreement with the Portuguese following the Zulu affair.
-Hmm. The idea has merit. It will depend on the French though. I'll need to take contact to them. Anything else?
-Yes, the Far East. If we were to form a trading company and gain some land in India or China we could get massive trade from the area. Even just leasing a port should work.
-It will take time. Lentz sat quiet in though. Very well then. You focus on Iceland and this new city/industry idea of yours. I'll contact the French and the Portuguese.
-Yes, my Lord.
Lentz got up and went back to his office. One meeting handled, but he still needed to meet with the admiralty and the Foreign department. He did feel more optimistic than he had in weeks though.
Symphony D.
Deity
OOC: ARGH, ALL BOLD, MY EYES! ZE GOGGLES ZEY DO NOTHING!!!
Harleqin
Hippo Power
I know. It wasn't bold at first, but it made it pretty hard to read (as in even harder). I'm open to suggestions though.
Harleqin
Hippo Power
To: France
From: Denmark-Norway
Your Royal Highness,
We would like to enquire into the possibility of acquiring a few of your Caribbean islands. We wish to establish our own sugar production and we know that there are several islands in your possession in that area with little or no population.
In return for this we will be willing to open our ports to French warships and allow France to keep warehouses with naval supplies there. You will of course be permitted to guard them with a small contingent of your troops if you should wish so.
Furthermore, we would like to ask if you would be willing to extend a guarentee of independence to us? We are considering declaring neutrality in all future conflicts which might leave us open to foreign aggression.
As you know we control the entrance to the Baltic and thus many nations would like to seize our lands. We do think it best though that those lands are in the hands of a neutral Denmark, unwilling and, indeed, incapable of making aggressive war upon foreign nations, rather than see the lands ruled by a major power which might prove hostile to France.
Would you be interested in such a deal?
Sincerely yours,
PM Lentz
To: Portugal
From: Denmark-Norway
Your Royal Higness,
We would like to enquire as to the possibility of obtaining a narrow strip of land on the Gold Coast where we could construct a few forts and recruit employment for the islands we will hopefully soon be aquiring in the Caribbean.
Furthermore we would like to ask if Portugal would be willing to issue a guarentee for our independence? We are considering declaring total neutrality, but it would leave us vulnerable to future hostile acts by other nations and we do think you will agree that it is better if the port to the Baltic is under our control rather than a major world power.
Sincerely yours,
PM Lentz
From: Denmark-Norway
Your Royal Highness,
We would like to enquire into the possibility of acquiring a few of your Caribbean islands. We wish to establish our own sugar production and we know that there are several islands in your possession in that area with little or no population.
In return for this we will be willing to open our ports to French warships and allow France to keep warehouses with naval supplies there. You will of course be permitted to guard them with a small contingent of your troops if you should wish so.
Furthermore, we would like to ask if you would be willing to extend a guarentee of independence to us? We are considering declaring neutrality in all future conflicts which might leave us open to foreign aggression.
As you know we control the entrance to the Baltic and thus many nations would like to seize our lands. We do think it best though that those lands are in the hands of a neutral Denmark, unwilling and, indeed, incapable of making aggressive war upon foreign nations, rather than see the lands ruled by a major power which might prove hostile to France.
Would you be interested in such a deal?
Sincerely yours,
PM Lentz
To: Portugal
From: Denmark-Norway
Your Royal Higness,
We would like to enquire as to the possibility of obtaining a narrow strip of land on the Gold Coast where we could construct a few forts and recruit employment for the islands we will hopefully soon be aquiring in the Caribbean.
Furthermore we would like to ask if Portugal would be willing to issue a guarentee for our independence? We are considering declaring total neutrality, but it would leave us vulnerable to future hostile acts by other nations and we do think you will agree that it is better if the port to the Baltic is under our control rather than a major world power.
Sincerely yours,
PM Lentz
Harleqin
Hippo Power
Copenhagen Post
October 12th
New Grand Admiral appointed
Following the death of Grand Admiral Lovenburg during a storm a couple of weeks ago, the admiralty has now announced his successor.
The new Grand Admiral of the Danish-Norwegian fleet will be Peter Grankjaer of Trondheim. The 41-year old Norwegian has served in the navy for most of his life. He joined up when he was just 17 and has served on several ships during his career. Being hardworking and honest he rose quickly through the ranks and soon showed himself to be a more than averagely skilled sailor.
At the age of 27 he made first made on the frigate "Stavanger" and distinguished himself at the battle of Edinburgh against an English warship. With the captain wounded he took control and guided his ship to victory against the English enemy.
Just four years later he was made a captain and has since been taking his ship around the world acting both a convoy, patrol and guard. Showing massive tactical skills in many manouvers he was appointed vice admiral when he was 35. Since then he has served loyally under former admiral Lovenburg.
Grand Admiral Groenkjaer has made his vessel "Odin", a Dannebrog-class vessel his command ship to the pride of all the mates on the ship.
The Admiral still has a house in his native Trondheim, but will now be spending more time in Copenhagen due to his new duties as Grand Admiral. Celebrations on his appointment are scheduled to be held in both Trondheim and Copenhagen.
The Dannebrog-class Man'o'War, Odin.
October 12th
New Grand Admiral appointed
Following the death of Grand Admiral Lovenburg during a storm a couple of weeks ago, the admiralty has now announced his successor.
The new Grand Admiral of the Danish-Norwegian fleet will be Peter Grankjaer of Trondheim. The 41-year old Norwegian has served in the navy for most of his life. He joined up when he was just 17 and has served on several ships during his career. Being hardworking and honest he rose quickly through the ranks and soon showed himself to be a more than averagely skilled sailor.
At the age of 27 he made first made on the frigate "Stavanger" and distinguished himself at the battle of Edinburgh against an English warship. With the captain wounded he took control and guided his ship to victory against the English enemy.
Just four years later he was made a captain and has since been taking his ship around the world acting both a convoy, patrol and guard. Showing massive tactical skills in many manouvers he was appointed vice admiral when he was 35. Since then he has served loyally under former admiral Lovenburg.
Grand Admiral Groenkjaer has made his vessel "Odin", a Dannebrog-class vessel his command ship to the pride of all the mates on the ship.
The Admiral still has a house in his native Trondheim, but will now be spending more time in Copenhagen due to his new duties as Grand Admiral. Celebrations on his appointment are scheduled to be held in both Trondheim and Copenhagen.
The Dannebrog-class Man'o'War, Odin.
Thlayli
Le Pétit Prince
From: Qing China
To: Japan
We can still be reasonable about solving disputes, you know. In the civilized community of nations, powers usually make a declaration of war, or at least a statement of grievences, before unleashing a war of suffering and pain upon another nation. Of course, Japan is new to all of this, we are sure. At any rate, we would gladly accept your full withdrawal from China, were you so inclined to negotiate.
Our offer stands, so that the world may know that China favors a civilized solution, even if the Nipponese do not.
To: Japan
We can still be reasonable about solving disputes, you know. In the civilized community of nations, powers usually make a declaration of war, or at least a statement of grievences, before unleashing a war of suffering and pain upon another nation. Of course, Japan is new to all of this, we are sure. At any rate, we would gladly accept your full withdrawal from China, were you so inclined to negotiate.
Our offer stands, so that the world may know that China favors a civilized solution, even if the Nipponese do not.
Symphony D.
Deity
TO: China
FROM: Japan
Only a fool informs an enemy of his intentions to strike, and from a position with no leverage. Do not presume to insult our intelligence by saying China would give a damn what Japan's grievances are, or that it would acquiesce to them in any way, shape, or form, for we both know that to be a fairy tale - even China, trying to be high and mighty as always, should be aware of this.
Japan will only withdraw on the conditions it keeps Taiwan and Korea, and recieves ownership of Sakhalin. Otherwise, we are quite content to fight and expand this war beyond all measure.
FROM: Japan
Only a fool informs an enemy of his intentions to strike, and from a position with no leverage. Do not presume to insult our intelligence by saying China would give a damn what Japan's grievances are, or that it would acquiesce to them in any way, shape, or form, for we both know that to be a fairy tale - even China, trying to be high and mighty as always, should be aware of this.
Japan will only withdraw on the conditions it keeps Taiwan and Korea, and recieves ownership of Sakhalin. Otherwise, we are quite content to fight and expand this war beyond all measure.
tossi
Der kleine Prinz
From: Portugal
To: Denmark-Norway
We must politly decline your request. We don't see how a Danish presence in the God coast could be useufull to us and neither do we why we should commit ourselves to protect your independence when we never ever had serious contact before. Both our nations went different way in the past and although it is certainly possible that our two nations work together more closely in the future, we should start step by step. For example we dont realy know what your foreign policy is, beside that you had a war with Sweden.
Swissempire
Poet Jester
Could France or Portugal comment on my conflict mediation suggestion.... The one about Plebiscites in the disputed Northern Iberian Provinces?
Thlayli
Le Pétit Prince
China has recieved Japan's communique, and hopes that it looks forward to the long, bloody and ultimately disasterous war that attacking a superior power can only provide. We refuse Japan's terms, because China will fight this war to protect its national honor, a virtue that the Japanese once held dear, or so we are told.
Symphony D.
Deity
It is for national honor that Japan fights. China's economic power is obvious. With it, it would rapidly eclipse Japan in all aspects, and given its militaristic bent, and conquest of Korea, Burma, Vietnam, and annexation of territories from Russia, it would be simply a matter of time before the Chinese Empire would cast its greedy eyes upon Japan.
We have engaged in a preemptive strike to prevent the insatiable Qing from continuing this trend and extending their perverted rule over the Chinese people to yet other nationalities. We have no qualm with the Chinese people - merely with their foreign overlords, and their obviously hostile ententions.
We will either secure our frontiers from Qing aggression, or we will find a way to destroy the Qing and restore rightful Chinese rule to China. Since you have rejected the former, we are left with no recourse but to pursue the latter. See you in hell.
We have engaged in a preemptive strike to prevent the insatiable Qing from continuing this trend and extending their perverted rule over the Chinese people to yet other nationalities. We have no qualm with the Chinese people - merely with their foreign overlords, and their obviously hostile ententions.
We will either secure our frontiers from Qing aggression, or we will find a way to destroy the Qing and restore rightful Chinese rule to China. Since you have rejected the former, we are left with no recourse but to pursue the latter. See you in hell.
Thlayli
Le Pétit Prince
We didn't know the Japanese believed in hell, but their conversion to Christianity will be met with pleasure in the French and Portugese courts.
And the phrase implies that the Qing go to hell, which we definitely do not. If Heaven exists, we will certainly be in it.
And the phrase implies that the Qing go to hell, which we definitely do not. If Heaven exists, we will certainly be in it.
