NES2 VI - Last Semblance of Order.

[Disenfrancised]

Sorry but, yes it does. There is a city in Brazil called Natal, it is the easternmost of those that you presently hold.

My confusion remains!

 

[stalin006]

Setting

This is set in a different world. The year now is 1748, but already, the Industrial Revolution is advancing, and other revolutions - of a political kind - are challenging the new world order... though in all due honesty, there never was any order, neither before the recent few European wars nor after them. Ever since the Twenty Years War (1607-1627) destroyed the Holy Roman Empire and founded the short-lived Protestant one, Europe was in chaos, with wars and revolutions re-painting the political map every few years. By the end of the 17th century, Europe had briefly settled down after the French defeat in the War of the League of Augsburg, with France, Spain and Portugal now firmly concentrating on colonial efforts, and the Central and Eastern European powers consolidating themselves. But throughout the 18th century, revolutions, risings and border wars continued, though the changes they caused were, in most cases, less radical than those of the 17th century. Until 1740. On that year, a series of events took place, and soon, the world was thrown into seven years of all-out chaos. By 1748, the Spanish colonial empire was destroyed, and Spain itself retained only Castille; South America was a battleground of the various opportunistic leaders, rebel factions and the Portuguese; England united most of the British Isles; France became more powerful than ever before, expanding in practically all directions; Sweden lost a war and well over a half of its territories; the Krakow Union, at one point the hegemon of Central Europe, was destroyed, its German portions transforming into the buffer state between France and Russia; Russia-Lithuania, having decimated both the Ottoman Turks and the Krakow Union, expanded westwards and entered a thus far quiet struggle with the French for European hegemony; the Byzantine Empire, reborn liked a phoenix, united the Balkans; the Ottoman Empire, though forced back into the Middle East, begun its recovery there defeating numerous rebels and invaders; Portugal greatly furthered its imperial ambitions in Africa and South America, ofcourse, the city natal is actually that of OTL Sao Luis; the Mughal Empire, having forcefully reformed, turned into a great power by its own right; and Japan and Qing China, both having undergone West-oriented modernization, now started East Asia's first really big modern war, the former procurring the support of France and Portugal to help against the overwhelming Chinese power.

Order was destroyed and reborn yet again, but it is even more fragile than ever before, with hostile great powers, ambitious lesser ones and violent revolutionary movements preparing for yet another submersion into the chaos of war and revolution.

i hope that explains to you, das put it in the setting story

 

[andis-1]

To: Sweden
From: Denmark-Norway
Your army is routed, your capital under siege with no chance for you to break it. It is time for you to accept reality and sign the document restoring the Kalmar Union. We will permit you to remain as governor of the province of Svealand.

why people even bother posting crap like this? just to get justification to continue the war?

 

[Disenfrancised]

i hope that explains to you, das put it in the setting story

Yes it does, thanks. Oh well, the north shall rise again!

 

[stalin006]

political cartoon dis! poolitical cartoon! your portuguese cowpie is the best ive seen here, and by that i mean the funniest

 

[Azale]

From: Holy League of Italy
To: Byzantium

Your worthless "empire" will crumble before it could even fully live out the "glory" it has taken...by once again, betraying someone in its own alliance with NO proper cause. For many years we have closely watched your actions, the despicable treason being predicted years in advance. If only France & the Ottomans had believed that you indeed were the snake in the grass, just as we knew all along you were.

From: Pope Leo XII of the Holy League of Italy
To: von Dunkelheit of Germany

You on the other hand, for all of your military prowess, are a fool. You would rather satisfy your own ego of beating the grandest military power on Earth than doing the most practical and intelligent thing for your nation. You sent hundreds of thousands to thier deaths in France rather than assist your allies and take back what is rightfully yours in Krakow....revenge will not be a pleasant thing when you experience it, Dunkelheit. Your first real mistake will be your last.

From: Italy
To: Denmark, France, England, Ottomans, Japan, Mughals, EUA, Finland, Gallicia, Basques

It is obvious we must stand together now, it appears this Russian-German juggernaught has long been in the making. With enough pressure applied it will surely break however. Do not let the early minor defeats curb your will to continue the fight.

 

[silver 2039]

To: Russia, Japan, France, Mughals, All Others Concerned
From: The Hanhua Emperor

The Chinese do not wish to busy ourselves in the affairs of your nations and will not join either side in your bloody war. China ackowledges all French, Japanese, Russian and Mughal gains in former Qing lands and asserts sovereignty over only the lands currently under the control of the Hanhua Emperor, under the control of the Republican fools and the wild lands of Tibet. We would like to sign treaties will all of your nations to affirm this.

The "wild lands" of Tibet as you call them have been recognised to be sovergin by us. We do not look kindly on Chinese attempts to annex Tibet back into its fold when it has clearly broken free.

 

[Dachs]

From: Holy League of Italy
To: Byzantium

Your worthless "empire" will crumble before it could even fully live out the "glory" it has taken...by once again, betraying someone in its own alliance with NO proper cause. For many years we have closely watched your actions, the despicable treason being predicted years in advance. If only France & the Ottomans had believed that you indeed were the snake in the grass, just as we knew all along you were.

Whom did we betray? What alliance? We had a defensive pact that only France stated that it would honor if we were attacked, which would not apply if France were attacked by another Power, and it has never applied. Declaration of war on that Power due to an alliance that takes more legal precedence is not a betrayal.

 

[Azale]

Whom did we betray? What alliance? We had a defensive pact that only France stated that it would honor if we were attacked, which would not apply if France were attacked by another Power, and it has never applied. Declaration of war on that Power due to an alliance that takes more legal precedence is not a betrayal.

Silence fools, you know exactly what you were doing. Why not declare this war earlier? Because you were in league with the Russians to take down a power that sought to protect your unworthy independence. Either directly or indirectly you seek to bring down France, for reasons that we cannot understand.

 

[Stormbringer]

From: Xin Han China
To: Union of Russia

We officially recognize your protectorate over Sinkiang and Mongolia, and propose to you an alliance, for we have mutual enemies.

Russian Empire accepts the alliance with China and will aid China in her war effort.

 

[Azale]

@storm, I think cuivienen took the Xin Han Chinese....

 

[Cuivienen]

The "wild lands" of Tibet as you call them have been recognised to be sovergin by us. We do not look kindly on Chinese attempts to annex Tibet back into its fold when it has clearly broken free.

Tibet? Broken free? When? The Tibetans certainly have not been informed.

(OOC: Reno didn't bother.)

@storm, I think cuivienen took the Xin Han Chinese....

Er, yeah, sorry Storm. I retracted that NPC diplo.

 

[Stormbringer]

Dang it, I missed that. In that case I change the acceptance of the alliance into an offer of an alliance given that we are fighting the same people.

 

[Symphony D.]

OOC:

By then, the Japanese already conceded the region immediately to the north of Amur to Russia, but not before destroying all the infrastructure in it - this, too, delayed the Russian plans.

das, I didn't just mean the infrastructure. I meant the cities and too. Otherwise, not too bad there.

Oh, yeah, and Storm, sorry, but they recanted:

To: Russia, Japan, France, Mughals, All Others Concerned
From: The Hanhua Emperor

The Chinese do not wish to busy ourselves in the affairs of your nations and will not join either side in your bloody war. China ackowledges all French, Japanese, Russian and Mughal gains in former Qing lands and asserts sovereignty over only the lands currently under the control of the Hanhua Emperor, under the control of the Republican fools and the wild lands of Tibet. We would like to sign treaties will all of your nations to affirm this.

Good update even if things didn't go quite the way we expected. We were getting spoiled, I suppose. And yes, geopolitically, Germany attacking France is about as foolish as it gets, when all of former Krakow and Eastern Europe were wide open. France out of all the Allies actually stood the least to gain from this war.

Just goes to prove: never trust Stalin006. Have fun with him, Storm. We'll get the same giggles when he stabs you in the back too.

 

[stalin006]

well actually now is pretty well balanced, it would have been foolish to let france win and then try to pull off a war against them and the world as their allies.

 

[Cuivienen]

well actually now is pretty well balanced, it would have been foolish to let france win and then try to pull off a war against them and the world as their allies.

OOC: I take it that you finally came to your senses and realized that, if everyone allied with France against someone else, France could take out all of her rivals one by one (Spain, then China, then Portugal, then Russia, then probably the Ottomans or Mughals if it had continued that long) and would always be the most powerful.

Now, France is facing four major rivals at once instead of just one, so things may at least be interesting, even if Germany, Russia, the Byzantines and Portugal/Brazil are wiped out.

IC:

To: Russia
From: The Hanhua Emperor

I am sorry, but we must decline your offer of an alliance at this time. That is not to say that we do not desire your friendship, but you cannot aid us against the Republican rebels, the only true enemy we currently face.

 

[Azale]

That...makes no sense stalin. Sorry, joining a war to make it more balanced not only is unrealistic...but foolish. Take your win agaisnt Russia, gather some secret allies, and then attack France, thats how its done

 

[Cuivienen]

That...makes no sense stalin. Sorry, joining a war to make it more balanced not only is unrealistic...but foolish. Take your win agaisnt Russia, gather some secret allies, and then attack France, thats how its done

Except that, once Russia and Portugal are gone, who is there to ally against France?

 

[Symphony D.]

OOC:

OOC: I take it that you finally came to your senses and realized that, if everyone allied with France against someone else, France could take out all of her rivals one by one (Spain, then China, then Portugal, then Russia) and would always be the most powerful.

Now, France is facing four major rivals at once instead of just one, so things may at least be interesting, even if Germany, Russia, the Byzantines and Portugal/Brazil are wiped out.

Except during this war, all of France's allies (Germans, Denmark-Norway, England, Japan, Ottomans, EUA, etc.) would've become vastly stronger, and thus, if France began doing that, could band together and eliminate it. The argument therefore makes no sense, and is really quite poor. Plus, Portugal wasn't really an ally, because lets be serious here: Russia doesn't threaten Portugal, and Portugal was already refusing to cooperate in a war against them. Neither was China, nor Russia, nor Spain...

France has been eliminating or trying to eliminate no one but enemies. In short, Stalin's move is one made of nonsense and whimsy. Everybody stood to gain land and wealth from defeating Russia. Basically, you can blame it on human irrationality. Dunkelheit is clearly insane. Oh well, he and his smallpox weapons program will get theirs.

 

[Cuivienen]

OOC:

Except during this war, all of France's allies (Germans, Denmark-Norway, England, Japan, Ottomans, EUA, etc.) would've become vastly stronger, and thus, if France began doing that, could band together and eliminate it.

But would they? At some point, someone has to betray France, and it is extremely difficult to convince many nations to turn traitor at one time. If Russia goes, there is no powerful rival to France for traitors to rally around and look to for protection.